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Unregistered
02-24-2003, 05:39 AM
I have just become a member by ordering 90 days of ProSolution pills and want to start with the exercises while waiting for delivery. I am mostly interested in gaining in girth and notice that the horizontal movement exercise is recommended for this. The problem is I cannot find it among all the exercises on the web-site.
Can somebody describe to me how this exercise is actually done?
slapdash
02-24-2003, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Unregistered
I have just become a member by ordering 90 days of ProSolution pills and want to start with the exercises while waiting for delivery. I am mostly interested in gaining in girth and notice that the horizontal movement exercise is recommended for this. The problem is I cannot find it among all the exercises on the web-site.
Can somebody describe to me how this exercise is actually done?
Look on the left navigation of the PH members area and you should see a section called More Girth Exercises. If you don't see it, you might need to upgrade your membership to a full PH account.
rdy2grw
04-21-2003, 12:17 PM
Since I'd been doing PE exercises from other sites, I decided to classify myself at an Intermediate level. I chose to start with the 7-10 minute workout and add needling because I would like a bigger glands. I did the work-out last night fo rthe first time and had difficulty with the horizontal movement and the needling because, well...I'm not as well endowed as the guy in the video. I'm having a hard time using both hands and having enough room. Do you have any suggestions for someone that's not that long (yet)?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
rdy2grw
Edward
04-21-2003, 05:08 PM
Hello Rdy2grw - Welcome to the Mens-Network Forum.
Experiment with a rubberband or cock-ring at the base of your shaft as a substitute for one hand...while using one hand to perform the exercises.
Let me know how this is working for you.
Does anyone else have some good advice for our friend?
rdy2grw
04-21-2003, 09:47 PM
Thanks Edward, I'll give that a try. On the same subject...from a scale of 1-10, what kind of grip do you have with the left hand as opposed to the right when needling and performing the horizontal movement?
I do want to say that the 7-10 min intermediate work-out gives me just as good a "pump" as the other sites 40-50 min work-out I was doing before I joined penis health. I'm very impressed with your exercises! That's why I want to make sure I'm doing them right. I really feel that I'm going to make some REAL gains now. I can't wait for my monthly measurements! I'll keep you posted...
rdy2grw
wiltman
04-22-2003, 09:53 AM
I just statrted too, and I was having the same problem. My penis was getting all smushed up and I was almost done as soon as I started. I used a little hand lotion...is that acceptable? I don't know. I hope that i'm able to gain.
tigerbartlett
04-22-2003, 03:31 PM
Wiltman, what exactly do you mean by getting "smushed up"?
If you are referring to the medium to use for in faciliating your exercises, use of a mineral oil based lubricant (at least in my opinion, although there are others that work just as well also)works a lot better than hand lotion. It lasts longer; it won't dry out sooner. Hand lotion is ineffective after it is absorbed into the skin, for during PE purposes anyways, as chaffing and dry rubbing will occur, not to mention the constant re-application of it!
Edward
04-22-2003, 08:43 PM
Ok Rdy2grw, since you have done PEing before, I will assume that you have not taken any long-term brakes and are at a more advanced level...so I suggest a grip of 8 on 'Horizontal Movements and a grip of 10 on 'Needling'. However, I you find any abnormalitys or bruising to occur, take a day or two off to heal and resume with a lighter grip.
Just keep doing what your doing with the exercises and make sure that you are following directions precisely as well as viewing the video's that are offered in the program and you will be on your way to bigger and better sizes.
Good luck my friend.
wiltman
04-22-2003, 10:54 PM
When I was doing the horizontal movement my penis head would follow my hand right down to the base of my penis. Like the penis itself disapeared almost.
tigerbartlett
04-23-2003, 08:11 AM
Wiltman, you will need to be more erect, that is, a little harder. To do H. Movement with an erect level near flaccid conditions is not performing it right! Semi-erect is the ideal to perform at.
Or, you may need to apply more lubrication onto your penis to facilitate the downwards/upwards movement portions of the exercise. Or you might be gripping too hard.
Let us know how it works out for you.
w8ng2grw
04-23-2003, 04:01 PM
Can someone tell me where to find this exercise on the PH Lite page ... i am just starting out and it is the only exercise I cannot find for the bgnr program.
thanks
wiltman
04-24-2003, 07:38 AM
Thanks for the help. Yes, I just needed to be a little more erect. It certainly seemed like I was doing it properly anyway. What do you think about doing the exercises out of order from the work out plan so I can do all the semi erect ones at the same time. I've been having a tough time getting an erection and then losing it and then getting it back. Does it matter what order you do them in.
Shafty
04-24-2003, 02:00 PM
Yep...I also had the problem of not having enough room for my milking hand while doin the horizontal movement,even though I'm an average 6 incher. I solved that by changing the way my pressure hand grips the base of my penis... I sorta press my palm flat against my pelvis and just pinch the cock with my thumb&index. Oh,and you might have noticed my "frustrated newbie" post... I'd just like to know what I'm doing wrong cause my gains so far have been minimal..or more like nonexistent.
mchinodiaz
05-15-2003, 12:46 PM
when i do the horizontal movement i just cant keep my penis semi erect it always gets full erect
but i do hold it pretty hard with the ok grip at the base
so i really dont know what i am doing wrong
should i stop the exercise until it gets semi erect?
should i tense my pc muscle while doing the exercise?
or what should i do?
please help
Xolotl
05-15-2003, 03:18 PM
Some PC pumps should make the erection subside. Although if you are using a tight enough grip I can't imagine too much more blood comming into it to make you more erect.
-X
What is the difference in effect between the Jelq and the Horizontal Movement. They both seem to do the same thing, just that the HM goes down the shaft, then back up.
For me, it is hard to do the HM because I'm not that long (which is why I'm here) and there is not much room to maneuver if I'm going down and then back up. Going in the downward direction causes the skin to start bunching up as I go down, then it gets blocked. I only end up going down about an inch. Then when I pull up, it pulls up the bunched skin.
SO, since it seems to me that the Jelq accomplishes the same thing--or does it?--is it necessary to use the HM to get girth? Won't the Jelq give me girth?
pearce6
06-18-2003, 02:33 AM
Jelq will provide girth.
HM basically is a girth only exercise and will provide girth and not length. IT doesnt do the same thing as there is no length stretch with HM.
pearce6
06-18-2003, 02:34 AM
This thread can help a girth variation..
http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=1492
Also if girth is your main aim then PC muscle exercises have been proven by docs to add up to 1/2 inch girth (will find article on this).
cyclops1978
06-18-2003, 11:54 AM
PC exercises do that much? Wow.
I was curious the same thing myself but the big difference seems to be that with the Jelq you alternate hands and keep the blood mainly in the head while some blood moves in and out. But on the HM your left hand keeps pressure on the base so the blood stays. Not sure why either does what they do but that made at least a little sense to me.
ebon00
06-18-2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by cyclops1978
PC exercises do that much? Wow.
Even if you one day reach all your size goals and stop your PE routine it's still a good idea to do your PC exercises. They are the cornerstone of penile health and can really be said to build the foundation upon which gains from other exercises are added. It's the single most important exercise in my opinion.
mr_canjar
06-19-2003, 08:09 AM
excuse me, but what is the horizontal movement exercise????
thanks
pearce6
06-19-2003, 07:51 PM
its a girth exercise. Improves nothing else apart from girth.
pearce6
06-19-2003, 07:52 PM
As per usual warm up thoroughly.
Stroke yourself to a manual semi erection.
Sit down with your back straight.
Grab the base of your penis with the left hand.
With your other hand place it under the head.
Put pressure on the base.
Milk downwards from the head.
Milk back upward towards the head.
Complete for as many repetitions as needed.
x60drvr
07-12-2003, 08:00 AM
Using the beginners excercises found on penis-health.com, there is no depiction for the Horizontal Movement excercise. Can anyone help me with what they are referring to?
cyclops1978
07-12-2003, 10:00 AM
You'll find the information for the Horizontal Movement under the More Girth Exercises portion.
WangChun
08-04-2003, 01:18 PM
just out of curiosity, what is the purpose of milking back upwards towards the head on the horizontal movement?
WangChun
08-05-2003, 07:08 AM
can someone give a better description of the horizontal movement. for example, i'm wondering what percentage of an erection the exercise should be done at, and a little better descriptions of the up and down strokes.
it seems odd to me that stroking in both directions would be beneficial since it seems to have the effect of putting half the blood on one side of the hand and half on the other side of the hand. am i doing something wrong here or is this the way the exercise is intended?
i'd really appreciate a response because i've been very frustrated with not gaining in the girth department as much as i'd like. at one point i gained about 3/4 inch in erect length within a month (using no stretching exercises, only jelqs and ferrari trio) so i'm hoping that i can break through and have some girth gains as well. i'm also starting to emphasize PC exercise, something i'd never really done before.
mods, please help!
WangChun
08-05-2003, 07:09 AM
i'm sorry, i meant that stroking in both directions would be less beneficial (second paragraph)
Unregistered
08-11-2003, 10:31 AM
Instead of doing the horizontal movment can I grip with one hand just below the head and grip with the other hand at the base then with both hands squeeze for 5 secs and contiune to do 5 sec reps <resting 3 secs in between reps> is this a good alternative for the horizontal movment, will I see the same gains?
Unregistered
08-12-2003, 01:10 PM
anyone?
Edward
08-12-2003, 08:14 PM
Yes you can...as long as you maintain a semi-erect state. I do this myself and have had great success.
I do a combination of both - kegel and then trap at the base. Squeeze blood out of the head into the shaft and trap at the top - hold for 5. Then do the horizontal movement motion.. it's great. 5 minutes of those, followed by 5 minutes of Ferarri's mega pump is great :)
Unregistered
08-17-2003, 05:43 PM
what exactly is the horizontal movement? I can't find a description/explanation on the website exercise list.
Thanks for the response, Anon. I looked in the area and there is no section I see for girth exercises. It has an exercise area that contains: warm-up routine, long shlong exercises, more length exercises, Jelq and variations and ejaculation control. Then there is another section called extra exercises, which contains: curvate straightening, foreskin restoration and advanced techniques. I do not however see any mention of the horizontal movement technique in any of the sections. I went to the new features workout routines and this is where I saw the horizontal movement factored in to the workout plans. If all else fails can it be explained provided I do not locate it. All the routines list it so I figure it is a good and important exercise and would like to use it so I can start the program. Any further assistance would be greatly appreciated, thanks again for any help.
It's under Girth Exercises on the left hand bar of the members section.
Auron
08-29-2003, 07:31 PM
when I do this exercise it feels like my penis either gets too hard or I can't keep enough pressure when stroking down to my pressure hand any help or advice?
Auron, concentrate on the exercise, don’t think about sex. After exercising for a while you and your penis will get used to the intense contact and you will get a better control over your erection level. Use enough lube, so you can hold a better grip without hurting yourself.
It also took some time for me to get used to the stroking, jelqing and stretching my penis, but now it quit easy.
Yves
Torben
08-31-2003, 01:11 AM
Hi.
I cant seem to find out how to do the horizontal movement anywhere,
can anyone help on how to do it, please.
Thanks
Torben.
Hey Torben,
I have found this description of the Horizontal Movement;
The exercise is done at ± 50-60% erection.
Put one hand (1) with the O-grip at the base of your penis.
The other hand (2) is placed with the O-grip just below the head.
Now move your hand (2) slowly to the base (with a firm grip).
Now move your hand back to the head.
You can repeat this exercise for the time you need.
Be sure to use enough lube!
Yves
does the horizontal mov. help in length or girth because it sounds like moving your hand like that would be like jelquing?
Girth, since the only stretching is outwards due to increased blood pressure.
Hey Tom,
The Horizontal Movement exercise is a 100% girth exercise.
Yves
Auron
09-10-2003, 05:23 PM
I seem trouble doing this exercise does length matter when doing this exercise?I have troubles with my milking hand always slips I feel when my hand is going towards my pressure hand the skin on my penis moves too much and I can't keep pressure on it going back up to the head.
Edward
09-14-2003, 04:15 PM
:) Hi Auron - If you are referring to the 'Horizontal Movement' exercise, then you are performing a girth exercise and not a length exercise...Nevertheless, you are doing the exercise correctly as long as you maintain a semi-erect state throughout the duration of the exercise.
If however, you still feel that you are unsure, just let us know and we'll do our best to help.
Auron
09-14-2003, 05:17 PM
doesn't the hand have to keep pressure the whole time?
falcon
09-15-2003, 03:53 PM
Auron, it's hard to do the exercises at first. I still have trouble. Trying to explain them is harder still. Videos seem to work the best for me. If you haven't looked at the exercise videos on www.Penis-health.com go there and watch them.
If that doesn't help go to www.thundersplace.com and search for exercises. I downloaded more than 10 exercise videos that gave me a better look at how I need to approach the subject. Some of the exercises on Thundersplace are advanced so be carefull.
rushmore
09-16-2003, 03:51 AM
if your having trouble with horizontal movement, due to length issues...try a reverse grip on the moving hand, this will get the other fingers out of the way and allow more movement. reverse grip meaning turn your hand so your pinky finger is near the head. hope this helps
Maxlav
10-26-2003, 06:23 AM
I wanted to try the workout routine but when i got to the "horizontal movement" i couldn't figure out how to do it :(
Is it explained somewhere ? I couldn't find it in the exercices section :S
Could someone post a link or explain it to me plz ?
Thx
ngt2000
10-27-2003, 12:32 AM
The horizontal movement is done like this...get a semi erection...then trap at the base with one hand and with the other make an ok grip just under the ridge...then jelq down towards your base hand...once you get all the way down jelq up until you get to the ridge of your penis again....just keep doing that...and do not release either of the grips while doing the excercise...you may want to release both grips and shake every few minutes to freshen blood supply
bfollowell
10-30-2003, 09:24 AM
I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I've been doing the beginners 25-35 minute workout 2 on, 2 off, 3 on, 2 off for a week now. I've got the routine down pretty good. I've not seen any increases but then I wouldn't expect to in a week. I have noticed that the veins in my penis seem to be darker and standing out more, making more ridges in my penis than in the past and that sometimes it appears to be hanging a little longer or fuller, but maybe that's just my imagination and wishful thinking at this point.
Anyway, my problem is that the jelqing and horizontal movement exercises seem to be rubbing me raw. The raw spots are centered mainly around the base of my penis. I'm not really sure what I may be doing wrong. I've been using lubrication. Right now I'm just using Vaseline but plan to switch to baby lotion with vitamin E or something like that soon. I don't feel I'm stroking or milking too fast and though I do squeeze fairly hard, I don't think I'm squeezing too hard.
Has anyone else had this or a similar problem? Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks for the support guys.
Sincerely,
- bfollowell
turtle
10-30-2003, 02:54 PM
Vasoline is fine if your trying to control diaper rash on a baby, but as a lubricant for P.E., it is not very good. Try baby oil. I have never had a problem with soreness, redness, or anything and I have only used baby oil. It works and it is cheap. It also cleans-up real easy. Vasoline is a mess to clean up. Also, I would change your workout to two on, one off, and three on, one off. Two days off matched with five workout days will give you adequate rest time. Your approach of four off days with five on days is to light. Perhaps you were doing this approach because of the soreness. Make the switch to baby oil and I think that you can switch to a 2 and 1 and 3 and 1 P.E. schedule.
Good Luck
Turtle
bfollowell
10-30-2003, 07:20 PM
Turtle,
Thanks for the info. Also, forget what I said about my workout schedule. I must've had one (or five) too many beers when I entered that last post. My current workout is the same as the one you suggested, 2 on, 1 off, 3 on, 1 off. I'm going to the grocery tomorrow and plan to pickup some type of baby oil then. Thanks for the advice.
Sincerely,
- bfollowell
Hi bfollowell,
Take a few days off so your skin can heal completely, use the proper lube just as turtle advised and start again. Hopefully you can continue the process toward a larger penis without any problems.
Be careful with the exercises and don’t overdo.
Good Luck
Yves
Shafty
10-30-2003, 09:35 PM
Hmm... I have had similar problems as well, in spite of the fact that I use baby oil for lubrication. Do you get the feeling that your jelqing hand kinda gets ''stuck'' at the base of the penis and pulls a lot of skin along? I had that problem and it also made the skin at the penis base somewhat sore. To fix that I shaved my shaft completely, so that even the stubble was gone. The problem no longer persisted...
I'm not sure If this is what you're referring to, but it might be worth a try.
mowinman
10-31-2003, 01:58 AM
bfollowell, check the advanced section click on last page and look for the post " dry Jelqing" by mowinman ( could be on page 5 or 6). Eliminates this problem all together.
Melki77
11-16-2003, 06:09 PM
I´m currently doing the following routin:
Warm up 1min
Long sholng 3min
Jelq 3min
Horizontal movement 2min
Warm down 1min
I´m having some problems with the "Horizontal movement". I start grabbing the base of my penis with the left hand ( 2 finger ). then I grab below the head with my right hand ( 2 fingers ) and begin to milk downarsds and upward with my right hand ( as shown in the video in penishealth.com ). I have a circumcised penis and when I start milking downwards the skin begins stop strech...so, before I reach the base of my penis ( where my left hand is ) the skin is too stretched and it hurts. I varied the exercise by firs milking upwards and then downeards but I don´t know if this works. Anyone had this problem?
One other thing, what about the routine I choosed? I justa started PE and I intend togradually increase to a more advanced mode. My aim is om length. Shoul I change or add anyting?
Thanks
Edward
11-16-2003, 07:07 PM
Melki77 - The Horizontal Movements requires a lubicant to perform this exercise. If any irritation occurs, stop the exercise and next time use more lubrication.
My aim is om length. Shoul I change or add anyting? Omit Horizontal Movements as this is a girth exercise for advanced users...and add PC Flexes to your routine beginning with 300 reps increasing 100 reps per week until you are doing 500 reps as a regular routine...You may add more reps if you feel you are performing the PC flexes correctly and comfortable doing so.
Does anyone else have some good advice for our friend?
;)
Melki77
11-16-2003, 08:14 PM
Edward, thanks for the advice...I forgot about the lubricant.
Do the other exercises of my routine require lubricant?
About quiting the horizontal movement, I took that exercise from the Begginner´s routine that is published in penishealth.com. If I quit this one I would prefer to replace it for another exercise because I´m already doing the PC flexes ( I forgot to put them in the first post ).
What should I do instead?
Thanks a lot
Edward
11-16-2003, 08:48 PM
:) Melki77 - Lubrication is also needed for the basic Jelqing exercise that is in your routine.
For the sake of achieving length as your goal, you should become familiar with all exercises that involve stretching and not compressing...Then you can chose the one that suites you best...as long as it produces positive results for you over time.
This will include, but not limited to; Long Shlong variations; Jelquing variations; as well as other lengthing exercises as describe in the index of Penis-Health.com...However, the one I suggest that you add to your routine at this time, is the 'Pressured Shlong'.
The Pressured Shlong should be done with a lubricant only on the thumb of the hand that you will be applying pressure with. Do not lubricate the hand that will be sustaining the extension of your shaft...so as to maintain a sure hold.
Good luck, my friend.
;)
Melki77
11-19-2003, 02:55 PM
Thanks for your tips
About the pressure shlong...it is described as an exercise for advanced users only...and I started just a week ago.
Do you think I can do it? Should I change it for another length exercise?
Thanks
Edward
11-19-2003, 03:35 PM
:) Just curious...in what PE program (PH?...PHP?...) did you see the 'Pressured Shlong' as an Advanced User Exercise...Regardless, I agree that the intensity level of this exercise can be extreme if not practiced with care.
The choice...as to which exercises to implement...is yours.
:cool:
Good luck, my friend, and keep us posted on your results.
Melki77
11-19-2003, 06:36 PM
I saw it at penishealth.com
goin4length
11-20-2003, 12:38 PM
if you have the time i would def increase your routine. i started at 45 a session working 3 on and three off. testing your LOT may help you find out whether you should be spending more time working on stretches that target the ligs or the tunica so you can work more effectively. i would def try to workout for more time and if time is a problem you can stretch throughout the day, like when you go piss just do a few long shlongs or whatever stretches you like, it can only help.
I agree - increase your routine. Even for a very beginner I think it's still too short. Gains will be minutely slow, and with that level of low intensity, you should only do it for about a week really. Try adding 4-5 minutes to each exercise (don't forget to up warmup time as well).
goin4length
11-21-2003, 11:59 AM
sorry i meant three days on and one off if it helps
Bisley
12-23-2003, 07:13 AM
Today was my second day of PE, using the 10 minute beginner's workout from PH.
I'm having a little trouble with the horizontal movement exercise: My hands just get too tired. After about 20 seconds of trying to grip with thumbs and forefingers on both hands I have to stop. Today I resorted to using elastic bands around the base instead of the base hand, so I could do the exercise one handed and swap hands when I get tired, and it worked fine. Is it ok to perform the exercise this way? Does anyone know if it affects the effectiveness?
Thanks everyone,
Tim
Edward
12-23-2003, 09:39 PM
:) Greetings Bisley - Welcome to the Mens-Network Forum.
Offhand, I couldn't say...However, your answer can be found within the forums. Just click on the following link Step 1- Use the Forum Search (http://mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2940) to get started.
Then enter the keywords Horizontal Movements and you will be taken to at least 13 threads.
Modify your keywords by removing the (s) on Movements and you will be taken to at least 125 threads.
Good luck, my friend, and keep us posted.
;)
drPepper
01-04-2004, 08:23 PM
i have a big probelm doing the horizontal movement, my hands are just way to big, i have a average size penis, 6.5", but i just have a major problem doin it, i dont get much movement up and down the shaft. should i use a cock ring or could I?
Edward
01-04-2004, 10:06 PM
:) Greetings drPepper - Welcome to the Mens-Network Forum.
Yes, you can use a cock ring to assist you with this exercise.
There is more information that can be obtain by using the Forum Search feature.
Just click on the following link Step 1 - Use the Forum Search (http://mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2940) to get you started.
By entering the keywords can't grip will take you to at least 170 threads that relate to this topic.
By entering the keywords cock ring will take you to at least 23 threads that relate to this topic.
By entering the keywords horizontal movement will take you to at least 129 threads that relate to this topic.
And so on...
By utilizing the Forum Search feature, you will obtain your answers quickly and productively.
Good luck, my friend, and keep us posted.
;)
I can not hold 3 seconds or 20 seconds in the kegel, i can only make a few jumps with the penis,and the erection is gone,is somenthing wrong? thanks
Edward
01-05-2004, 06:13 AM
:) Greetings eros - Welcome to the Mens-Network Forum.
There is nothing wrong with you...This problem is quite common for many who have just discovered the PC Muscle for the first time. Upon this discovery also comes the recognition of just how under developed it is.
Just keep exercising it, and over time it will get stronger to the point where you are able to control it with the greatest of ease.
When you use the Forum Seach feature, enter the keywords premature ejaculation and click on the thread 'PC exercises, flexes & Male Multiple Orgasms' posted by Artist. Read this and you will understand what a strong PC Muscle has to offer.
Good luck, my friend, and keep us posted.
;)
SUGARDADDY
01-18-2004, 02:06 PM
Hello Everyone!
Before I ask my question I have done a search but didn't find the answer that I'm looking for. Found many many enteresting threads but none that really stuckout as right....
where do I find out how to do the Horizontal Movement? I just bought ProSolutionpills but on their site it doesn't show it. The reason I am asking is because everyone seems to be using it in their routines... I have been PE'in about 3 weeks. (2 before pills) 1 with pills.... and I want to see the most results possible fast!! like everyone else..
perhaps a free website that has more than PSP?
turtle
01-18-2004, 02:29 PM
Sugar Daddy
I've given this explanation before, but you would have to search a lot of posts to find it, so here it goes again. Get a moderate erection, 75%-85%, get a tight O grip at the base with your left hand, and then using your right hand with a relatively tight O grip slide your hand up and down on the shaft. Concentrating on moving the blood around. If you look in the advanced techniques section you will find some variations of the above method that are also useful.
good luck
turtle
tjford
02-16-2004, 04:14 PM
The horizontal movement seems to be kind of difficult in the downward direction for me. Is it alright if I just grab the head with one hand, and milk downwards with the other? I don't go back up, I just keep doing the downward direction. Thanks.
mowinman
02-17-2004, 07:45 AM
Yes, you could also do the movement straight out too. Which ever is more comfortable for you.
pan0052
03-13-2004, 04:19 AM
Hi all!
I am new to this forum and I started off PE:ing 10 days ago. I am a member of Penis-Health but i still have a question about the exercise called "Horizontal Movement".
I´ve looked all over the PH site and i cant find it anywhere, the only place i found it i s the section for "Curvate straightening" but it seems that it is not the right routine.
So could you please help me to explain it.....please.
My first ten days have been good. At first my penis was a bit sore but now it feels great. I´ve already gained a lot when flaccid :).
Ths is my routine
3 min warm up cloth
LS 5 x 15 sec left, right, straight out and down
200 jelq
Power stretch 3 x 10+5 sec all directions
Warm down
Thanks......
Edward
03-13-2004, 04:47 AM
:) Greetings Pan0052 - Welcome to the Mens-Network Forum.
Congratulations on your gains!
The 'Horizontal Movement' exercise can be found under the index on the left side of your screen in the P-H.com site entitled More Girth Exercises.
pan0052
03-13-2004, 06:32 AM
Thanks Edward, found it now........
lilfro
06-10-2004, 10:15 AM
Hey Guys, I have one quick question about the horiaontal movement... What the heck is it and what does it do? I can't really get the hang of it and I am not sure why, but I was wondering if I could just put some extra jelqs in there instead.
This site is packed with info and I'm happy to be here.
Thanks:)
tabasco
06-10-2004, 05:20 PM
Hi guy,
The Horizontal Movement is almost a reverse jelq. The concept seems to expand the spongy tissue with almost full erection. I think adding jelqs might work just fine. Jelqs accomplish similar results, except the HM is a bit slower and tries to trap the blood in the tissue, thus forcing the expansion a bit more. If you have been reading the forum, you might call it a reverse mini slammer.
Good luck on the program, moving up the jelqs should be helpful.
keep us posted.
tabasco
thebobo9
06-12-2004, 04:19 PM
I always hated horizontal movement, it was uncomfortable, it cramped my hands, and it didn't even provide me any gains. If it's an exercise you can't stand, adding more jelqs is probably the best way to go. The best way to jelq *which I recently learned about on my progress thread* is to do small sets of 25 or so. The reason being that your erection is bound to decrease greatly while you're doing the jelqs, and once it gets below about 70% or so, the exercise is essentially a lame stretch. So give that method a try and see how you feel. It should be a bit of a step up in productivity.
Bobo, on his 100th post right here.
falcon
06-14-2004, 02:42 PM
Yea, the Horizonal Movement has been and will always be my most unfavorite exercise. It just makes me sore and beat up.
thebobo9
06-14-2004, 03:06 PM
That's the great thing about this forum, finding out your not alone in pretty much every reguard to pe. Did you wind up deciding to use more jelqs, or are you looking into other things?
Bobo
slicNICK
07-10-2004, 11:36 AM
When doing the Horizontal Movement(girth exercise) it seems as the hand on the base of my shaft gets in the way of my other hand that strokes down with the tight grip. Id like to beable to bring the moving hand as far down the shaft as possible.
Would it be better to wear a tight cock ring at the base, in order to be able to grip tightly with your hand and stroke all the way down the shaft before coming up again?
turtle
07-10-2004, 01:00 PM
slicNICK
You could use a cock ring if you wanted to but first make sure you are doing the HM with your hands in the correct position. Use the base lock with the thumb and forefinger of your left hand and then do the sliding with your right hand in the overhand position. In other words the thumb and forefinger of each hand meet at the base at the end of your downward stroke. You really wouldn't gain that much with a cockring.
turtle
tabasco
07-11-2004, 09:27 PM
Hey slicNICK,
I agree with turtle, and in fact think that (depending on the size of the cock ring) you will probably get more pump with manual pressure than the cockring. With your hand you can add more pressure at the base by squeezing harder, thus getting a better pump. Unless you have an adjustable cockring, you will be missing the advantage of the additional pressure. Thus, the help with girth will be limited.
Hope this helps, keep us posted if you need more advice.
tabasco
Edward
07-12-2004, 04:10 PM
This is a copy of the original that was posted in the thread entitled: What are HORSE and ULI exercises and others found in a link associated with SUPRA...?
slicNICK - You are hereby banned until further notice due to the inconsistencies in your demeanor which reflect the same situation that has caused Supra to become demoted at MOS.
In fact, if I didn't know any better...YOU...slicNICK...possibly aka Supra or another pawn of Supra's...are acting in an attempt to cause more controversy and mayhem in the Mens-Network Forum.
This message was intended for moderators only.
Evidence for my actions are based on an as need to know bases...and am willing to share this info upon your request.
Respectfully,
Edward :cool:
lilwill
08-25-2004, 05:40 PM
I am finding it a bit combersome performing this move, mainly I cant reach the base of my penis with my hand clenched at the base. Has anyone, or would anyone suggest, using a cockring for the movements that require grip pressure.
turtle
08-25-2004, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by lilwill
I am finding it a bit combersome performing this move, mainly I cant reach the base of my penis with my hand clenched at the base. Has anyone, or would anyone suggest, using a cockring for the movements that require grip pressure.
A cock ring would work, but try this first. Do the base with your left hand fore finger and thumb. Do the HM motion with an upside down OK grip with your right hand. The upside down grip allows you to cover more of the length of your penis without the lower part of your hand getting in the way. This would be a good grip to use even if you decided to go with a cock ring. A lot of people don't like the HM. Try it this way, if that doesn't help then just move on to jelqs. You'll be moving to jelqs fairly soon in any case.
turtle
lilwill
08-25-2004, 08:18 PM
thanks for the input. I already do the basic jelqs as part of the 20-30min beginners workout. Should I drop the HM and do two versions of the jelqs?
Also, I have read some of your posts before, and am catching on to some of the short hand writing, but what does BP stand for?
turtle
08-25-2004, 09:43 PM
lilwill
Try the HM the way I suggested. If it seems to work OK do it for another 4 weeks. Then switch to jelqs. If your already doing 100 jelqs (5 min) and 5 min of HM, then go to 200 jelqs.
BP = Bone Pressed
turtle
falcon
08-26-2004, 09:10 AM
Hello lilwill, the Horizontal Movement has to be one of the worst exercises ever invented.
I tried it a couple of times and said forget it. Didn't like the way it felt then and don't like it now. There are just too many other exercises available.
PE is very tough at its best when you can do (can stand) the exercises. Why make it more difficult by doing exercises that are simply not for you?
Do some searchs on girth exercises and see what you come up with.
DJ-Ales
10-05-2004, 07:38 AM
Hi there, I'm just starting with all these things.
I see in most routines the famous HM but I can't find the explanation in the PSP member's section. Please, someone can explain this exersice to me? It is worth doing it? Thanks!
Edward
10-05-2004, 09:40 AM
:) Greetings DJ-Ales - Welcome to the Mens-Network Forum.
You've come to the right place, my friend, to ask your questions, express your opinions, and offer your fellow members some good advice from your personal experiences.
The Horizontal Movement is an advanced exercise to help you obtain girth gains. Your membership to Penis-Health Lite through the PSP website can be upgraded to the full membership benefits of Penis-Health.com for an additional one time fee of $14.95 where you can obtain this exercise and more. The cost is nominal and the investment is well worth it.
Otherwise, you may try to find your answer here by using the Forum Search feature. If you are not yet familiar with this feature, then just click on the following link Step 1 - Use the Forum Search (http://mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3896) to get you started.
By learning to utilize the Forum Search feature, you can obtain the answers to your questions quickly and productively.
Good luck, my friend, and keep us posted on your progress. ;)
DJ-Ales
10-07-2004, 10:56 AM
Thanks.
yeah what is it..i have tried looking but cant fine it
turtle
10-08-2004, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by don
yeah what is it..i have tried looking but cant fine it
don if you go to the Penis Health site, look on the left side and you will see a place to click for other girth exercises. If you click on that the first exercise listed and explained is the Horizontal Moavement
turtle
Money
11-05-2004, 05:48 AM
Hey fellas,
I want to ad some horizontal movements to this routine and I was wondering how many should I ad and where in the routine should I ad them?
Thanks!
3 min. warm/up
8 reps @ 20 sec. each, long schlong in each of the five directions
200 dry jelqs
3min warm down.
300 pc flexes (during the day)
BPFLL:4.5"
BPFG:4.5"
BPEL:7.25
BPEG:5.5
turtle
11-05-2004, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by Money
Hey fellas,
I want to ad some horizontal movements to this routine and I was wondering how many should I ad and where in the routine should I ad them?
Thanks!
3 min. warm/up
8 reps @ 20 sec. each, long schlong in each of the five directions
200 dry jelqs
3min warm down.
300 pc flexes (during the day)
BPFLL:4.5"
BPFG:4.5"
BPEL:7.25
BPEG:5.5
Right now your routine has a good balance between length and girth. If you add the HM, consider adding some stretch time to maintain the balance. HM is basically a clamped jelq, but because of the clamping effect some form of lube helps. Since your doing dry jelqs, I would do the HM after the jelqs. In other words do the HM as the last exercise so that the lube doesn't interfer with the other exercises. Figure that 100 reps of HM should take about 5 min. This would be a good place to start. It really is a question of how long you can invest in your workout. Add 10 reps of 30 sec. downward stretches to maintain the balance, and then you have added a total of approx. 10 min. to your routine. If the extra 10 min. works for your schedule try this approach.
turtle
I don't think I understand the horizontal movement exercise. The description and video are both a little confusing. How is this different from the jelqing execises? You hold the base in an OK sign, then do the same just before the head, then what does the top hand do? I can't tell because if the bad angle in the video. They should really give a side view too. Can anyone explain this one to me a little more clearly? Thanks!
turtle
11-13-2004, 06:07 PM
tae
For HM get fairly erect and then use one hand to clamp at the base. Keep that fairly tight and then do a very slow masturbation motion along the shaft, toward the head and then back toward the base. The whole idea is to move the blood all around in the shaft. It's easier if you do the base grip with your left hand and then do the sliding motion with your right hand in an upsidedown position. Thumb to thumb when the two hands are together at the base.
turtle
bucsab12
11-21-2004, 06:42 AM
Should I use some lubrication for the horizontal movement?
turtle
11-21-2004, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by bucsab12
Should I use some lubrication for the horizontal movement?
Yes, you some lubrication. I'll suggest good old Johnson's Baby Oil. It's cheap and easy to find. It also works well.
turtle
stipe
11-30-2004, 07:28 AM
I need some help doing some exercises. When I do the Pressured Long Shlong and move with the thumb to the head I also pull the skin (I have a foreskin). Is this oK?
Also by the Horizontal Movement I have problems with the foreskin!
Are there any solutions??
obi-wan
12-02-2004, 08:28 AM
stipe when you do the horizontal movement it is easyer if you pull your foreskin back. I have a forsking too and it works for me. As for the pressued long shlong do the bottom half of the penis then let go and let the skin go back down then start half way up and continue to the top. once again that is what i do.
multiboy
12-03-2004, 03:36 AM
Hi Guys,
Just started the program, 2 days ago in fact.
I'm having trouble finding the Horizontal movement exercise on the site.
Could anyone point me in the right direction to find it?
Cheers,
turtle
12-03-2004, 05:44 AM
multiboy
Welcome to the program. When your on the Penis Health Home page look at the upper lefthand side. You will see a tab labled other girth exercises. Click there and you will find Horizontal Movement
ronk49
12-05-2004, 12:58 PM
hey stipe how ya doin. i also have a foreskin. i really don't think the skin moving hurts the exercise. actually to me it made it easier because you don't rub a raw spot. when i did pressured shlong i would stetch then pull skin back and then use thumb to do pressure part . it took a little tryal-n-erro to find the best spot to start with my thumb so the skin would'nt be stretched to the max in both directions but it worked out fine. sounds like you may already be doing it this way but if not this would be another option to consider.
WiseGuy25
12-05-2004, 02:42 PM
"Bruising" =D
awesomeaj108
12-21-2004, 08:05 PM
I am uncut and have a question about horizontal movment. The video for it was poor and didnt answer any of my questions. When i downward stroke toward the tension hand and go back up, is my hand supposed to slide across the skin or is my skin supposed to bulge up inbetween my tension hand and my sliding hand as I slide down? I'm not sure if i am explaining it well. I think only other ppl who are uncut can answer this.
scottses
12-31-2004, 08:49 AM
What is the horizontal movement? I dont see a demonstration for it on the penis exercise list?
ebon00
01-01-2005, 06:39 AM
Originally posted by scottses
What is the horizontal movement? I dont see a demonstration for it on the penis exercise list?
You'll need to sign up to Penis-Health in order to get a complete description of that exercise. It's similar to the Reverse Trap Jelq (http://mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3478) but you don't release the grip at stage 5. I personally don't quite like the exercise but if you do that's fine.
chinkynyc
01-06-2005, 10:28 PM
when doing horizontal movements, do you actually slide your ok grip over the skin down to the pressure hand or are u holding it in place while "milking" downward?
This thread has been placed in the appropriate forum it belongs in. ;)
RoosterBooster
01-07-2005, 10:25 AM
You do this while having sex???? YOU STUD!!
Edward
01-07-2005, 10:50 AM
:) Greetings chinkynyc - Welcome to the Mens-Network Forum.
The comment from RoosterBooster was based on the fact that you had this thread posted in the "Lets Talk About Sex" forum. Please try to keep your questions to the appropriate forum they belong in...as this prevents others from misunderstanding your question.
Anyway...You maintain the ok grip at the base of your penis to keep blood trapped in...to obtain maximum results...while the other hand slides back and forth from the gland to the base and back to the head again.
I hope this helps. ;)
turtle
01-07-2005, 02:20 PM
Hey Edward
I just noticed, you passed 1000 posts. Congratulations on joining the club. I think that your are number five.
turtle
Edward
01-07-2005, 02:53 PM
:( That's just great! You recongized my numbers and have the decency to give me a sincere congratulations.... when I forgot to offer you MY congratulations on YOUR numbers. :rolleyes:
:D Oh Well...Better late then never...Congratulations turtle on joining the 1000 mile high club.
Thanks for all the hard work and dedication, my friend!
George
02-04-2005, 03:27 PM
What is it about horizontal movement you don't like? Do you feel it is not effective?
ebon00
02-05-2005, 08:35 AM
Didn't quite get the kind of feeling I thought I should have. Now, I haven't read the exercise description for the Horizontal movement in a long time but I think I'm doing something similar right now that seems to work for me. I currently use this variation (if it is a variation) as a closing "pump up" exercise.
cwhitman
02-19-2005, 02:04 PM
I have a account to the Penis-health lite program and on their website under the workout routines it says Horizontal Movement, but when I go to the workout section there is no Horizontal movement to be found. How do you do the Horizontal Movement? Thanks a bunch!
turtle
02-19-2005, 03:51 PM
On the left there is a bar called "other girth exercises" click on that and you will find a description and video about the horizontal movement.
turtle
james82
02-21-2005, 08:27 PM
hrm... i don't see it either. i checked everywhere on the left and right.
i am a member via the prosolutions pills offer that came with free website access.
is there a reason we cannot see it? why is it in the routine if it's not avaiable.
turtle
02-21-2005, 09:42 PM
I'm a regular member so perhaps there is a difference, but when I just checked the site on the left there was a series of things that you could check. One was headlined "The Exercises" and underneath it was "other girth exercises" Perhaps your membership is different, I don't know.
turtle
RoosterBooster
02-22-2005, 12:26 PM
Well since my old site got merged Mens Network this can't be spamming because we are one now. Just go to www.penisadd.com/videos/. Many other techniques are shown there as well.
sloppyjo
03-02-2005, 07:23 AM
I found it easier to do this exercise with your fingertips down instead sideways, you have more controll that way
lagaffe
03-24-2005, 05:00 PM
So I've been doing both the jelqing and horizontal movement. What's the difference in terms of the results between the two?
Edward
03-24-2005, 05:26 PM
:) lagaffe
Jelqing is two-fold. It helps in the development of both length and girth. The Horizontal Movements is only intended to assist in the development of girth only.
Depending on what your goals are, you can either do one or both of these exercises. Just do whatever works for you. ;)
SchlongMyFlong
04-07-2005, 10:33 PM
Does anyone else have problem with horizontal movement?
So far, I'm quite surprised cause I've actually made gains and I was a little bit of a skeptic, but now that I'm gaining, I want to make sure I do all the exercises right. My current length is at 6 inches, and 5 inches girth, but I still feel that its hard to grasp the base of my penis and complete a succesful stroke. I understand that I need to do the strokes slowly, 2 to 3 seconds or so, but when I hold the base of my penis, the blood travelling senstation doesn't seem to occur cause holding the base makes my penis too hard. As soon as I let go of the base(and the instructions tell you not to), the blood flowing sensation can finally be felt, but does that defeat the purpose of holding onto the base?
I still don't get this exercise. And how it helps.
Any advice on this would be helpful
Been doing this for about 4 weeks, gained about 2cm, and a cm of girth.
Thanks
turtle
04-08-2005, 06:22 AM
Actually a lot of people seem to dislike this exercise. The idea of the clamp at the base is to stop the blood from moving out of the penis on the downward stroke towards the base. Keep fooling around with it for awile, but if you just can't get comfortable with it, then take the time spent on HM and do some additional jelq work. HM is trying to have a overall balanced effect on girth, the up and down motion, that reduces the likelihood of the baseball bat effect.
turtle
SchlongMyFlong
04-09-2005, 11:01 AM
Right on Turtle,
That makes more sense to me then it ever did.
I'll keep what you said in mind as I try HM again, it makes sense what your saying.
The baseball ball effect that you speak of definately makes to note to the fact that even when performing exercises like the jelq, it's alot easier to jelq the upper regions of your penis then it is the base, so I guess what your saying is that HM helps compensate for these exercises?
Thanks for the help
SMF
bencook
04-21-2005, 10:36 AM
hya, just got the package of size genetics (exercise, pills and device) looking at all the exercises and workouts on the "penis-health" site you get for free with the package, anyways, looked at the workouts and all the exercises and "how to" do each exercise is on the website, all expect the "Horizontal Movement", it is knowhere on the site, where can i find it? pls help as i`d appreciate it :)
turtle
04-21-2005, 11:57 AM
I know that Horizontal Movement is described in detail on the Penis Health Site. I don't know if your PH lite has the same description that my regular membership has, but check out the PH site for the info.
turtle
swanloaf
04-23-2005, 10:13 PM
Could someone post this info please? It should be on the damn website somewhere, but it's not.
Pluker19
04-25-2005, 02:41 PM
Hi, have been PEing now for about a week. When doing the Horizontal Movement I have trouble staying at the desired level of erection. Also I'm only about 6.1 in erect length so I dont feel like I have much room to make good strokes down my shaft. From what I have read it seems many other people have this same problem. Any information of performing a proper HM would be appreciated, as well as an alternate exercises to the HM for beginers.( My main concern is preventing the baseball bat effect, and gaining equal girth growth throughout the penis) Thank you for your help.
Pluker19,
I'm relatively new to this stuff, and I've experienced similar concerns about the horizontal movement exercise. Now, my NBPEL is 4.5"
Although my NBPEL is a conservative estimate/measurement, I've got around 5 or 6 inches at the very most to actually work with during this exercise. I find this to be plenty, just as long as I take things slow.
My advice would be to, first of all, only perform HM after you've finished your jelqs to help things warm up properly. I generally stroke myself to full erection (WITH plenty of lube), then kegal in (PC flex) as much blood as possible in one swift, strong contraction of the PC muscle. Right away, just grab with the standard "ok" grip at the base of your dick...as low as possible...push that gripping hand into your fat pad. Hold as much blood in as possible, since losing your erection will soon bring down the pressure anyway.
After that, start right below your head with the other hand (use the "ok" sign, but this time your palm should face outward (away from your body). Just grip tight enough to feel the blood forcing your dick to expand...any pain and you're squeezing too hard. Just slowly grip and slide downward until your finger and thumb just about meet the thumb and finger on your gripping hand (which should remain at the base of your cock). From top to bottom this should take at least several seconds...don't rush through these, as you'll run the risk of either undertraining or, worse, getting carried away and hurting yourself.
Just repeat as necessary. I personally do one set of 10 full reps of the exercise that I just described. I'll add another set soon...I'll switch hands so that my base-grip hand is my left on the first set, then my right on the second, etc. This can help to balance the effects/increases in girth on both sides of the penis.
I'm sure there are a number of variations in the ways people perform HM, but this is the most straightforward method that I know of. Whenever my erection becomes weaker, I just stroke my head a bit and kegal in more blood to keep things at fairly close to a full erection (85 or 90% anyway).
Hopefully this post helps without making you read too much about stuff you already knew. Just let me know if you have other questions. Check out what others have to say about this too by plugging in "horizontal movement" into the forum search function.
Big Vine
Hey, just saw you had one post up there...welcome aboard!
I've still got under about 20 or so myself, but I've read an awful lot of posts here in the forum, and feel like I'm becoming a 'seasoned newbie' anyway...guess time will tell. I'm still learning a lot too! Thanks everyone for the helpful posts and replies.
anth1225
04-25-2005, 08:42 PM
Hey check out the Stretch Aid List from the Advanced section of this site made by Mowing Man.
U might find something u like. Maybe golf gloves?
anth1225
04-25-2005, 08:49 PM
oops wrong section. I was replying to Big Vine from another thread.
Guess I'm having a senior moment
Pluker19
04-25-2005, 09:13 PM
Thanks for the help Big Vine. Ill give that a try and see how it works. I think reversing my grip with the hand that is performing the HM like u stated may work better for me. Yea this was my first post, just got registered for the forum. I'm sure I'll have plenty of more questions though.
I'm assuming you mean info on the Horizontal Movement exercise?
Look near the top of the Newbie forum and click on the thread entitled "Having horizontal movement problems" that was started by Plucker19.
Or, just do a forum search on the topic.
Big Vine
swanloaf
04-26-2005, 07:58 PM
Thanks. Sorry, I suppose I should have used the search function...
Smoky
04-28-2005, 03:04 PM
Isn't this exercise the same as a reverse jelq?
bencook
05-10-2005, 07:01 AM
bought the size genetics deal and went to the penis health lite site and it had all the exercises in the workout shown on the site except for the "horizontal movement", looked on this site and cant find instructions on how to do it either, can anyone help? (i know the exercise is on the "other" penis health site but i`m not subscribing for just one exercise)
MongolBot
05-10-2005, 05:25 PM
Heya, fellas! This is my first time here and posting. I just recently purchased 5 months worth of Pro Solution Pills and thankfully stumbled onto this forum. I had the same inquiry as a previous member posted which was what is exactly the Horizontal Movement technique since it was not included with my free subscription to penis-health.com. Nonetheless, I used the search button and came across some insightful information about it yet I am still skeptical about the whole procedure.
So far, I came across a thread explaining the method but it seems bland in its description. I also came across that the Horizontal Movement is similiar to the Reverse Trap Jelq technique but you don't release your OK grip under the head of the penis when approaching the base of the penis.
Of course, I can cough up additional money to receive the full subscription; however, I read a thread stating that the additional 15 dollars to become a full pledged member is not what its cracked up to be. The individual complained that he did not receive the extra perks that he was promised which were additional exercises, instructional videos/pictures and access to other sites.
As you can see, I am at a dilemma. So, I was hoping fellow readers can help me with my problem. So pretty much I am asking is if the information I obtained so far is accurate and there is no need for further explanation or if one of you individuals can type me up a more detailed explanation to this exercise. I would prefer pictures and/or videos if someone would be kind enough to share it with me. Nevertheless, words are more than suffice. Thanks in advance
wohoo19m
05-11-2005, 07:06 AM
I don't find the HM particularly usefull, I'd just do jelqs if your just starting out.
wohoo19m
05-11-2005, 07:34 AM
The HM is NO WHERE NEAR as intense as the reverse trap jelq is. I would drop it and just keep it at jelqs.
Please go to page 2 in the Newbie forum, and then look for the thread started by Pluker19 entitled "Having horizontal movement problems."
In it, I've tried to best describe my own interpretation of the exercise. I'm sure there are a number of variations.
Hope this helps.
Big Vine
falcon
05-18-2005, 07:26 PM
Bencook,
I haven't found one PE'r that likes the Horizontal movement.
It won't hurt not to do this particular exercise.
Falcon
falcon
05-18-2005, 07:39 PM
PE really works.
You are doing what I did. Try to make a simple exercise routine complicated to increase the length and girth of your dick.
My suggestion,,,,,
Stay with the simple exercises for the first 3 to 6 months. PS pills will be in your favor for faster recovery.
Quit doing the fancy stuff. What your dick needs now is a committed exercise routine that will stretch and fatten your cock. It wants to be stretched and jelqued. Simple style,
NOT FANCY STYLE!
Do the beginner, intermediate routines on the Penis-Health site and do it with a commitment that would place you into being obsessed. Never miss, always looking over your shoulder, worrying that someone might catch you.
Then you will find your gains
Falcon
valent_UrLge
06-11-2005, 06:05 PM
please helppppp!!!!!
can some onse tell me how to do the horizontal movement????
thanks!!!!
Kingston
06-12-2005, 04:04 PM
I'm guessing you are not registered on the Penis-Health Members area, so I'm not sure if I'm aloud to help you or not. Not doing this out of spite.. I just don't know the rules.
falcon
06-12-2005, 09:11 PM
You are not out of line at all Kingston, offering advise is what this forum is all about and suggesting Valent look at getting a membership at Penis-Health is within the guidelines of this forum.
What would not be in the guidelines is to advertise websites for your own gain at the expense of the men on this forum and the owners of this site.
Keep your suggestion coming. We all depend upon each other on this site.
Valent, take a serious look at Penis-Health.com. I joined about 2 years ago and have never regreted it. The site has step by step instructions on how to do the exercises, videos and routines for the beginner, intermediate and advanced PE'r.
Falcon
laval
06-27-2005, 08:06 PM
hello guys im new to this, and i have a couple questions,
i've been hearing alot about this exercise called "horizontal movement". I cant find any info on how to do this,
and to add on to this my routine right now consist of:
in the morning,
warm up 3 min
long shlong 5 directions 4 reps each
heli ls 5 reps
power stretch 5 reps in 5 directions
warm down 1 min
this generally takes 15-20 mins
in the evening i do mainly girth exercises
warm up 3 min
standard jelq 200 reps
jelq and hold 100 reps
heli ls 5 reps
1 min warm down
150 pc flexes
i want to add horizontal movement to my evening exercises but i can find how to do it.
also i not sure if im doing my jelqs right, how i do it generally 85% erect pointed slightly down, start from base with "ok" sign and slide towards head takes like 2 secs to get to the end, then i repeat with opposite hand.
if anybody can help and answer my question or also give some better routines to increase my gains it would be greatly appreciated.
thanks kyle
falcon
06-27-2005, 08:57 PM
Laval,
Your routine looks like you have a solid foundation to work with.
The Horizontal movement is for girth and is one of my most unfavorite exercises.
Penis-Health.com has instructions and videos that will explain the Horizontal movement. Take a look at the site.
Falcon
ringmasta187
06-28-2005, 08:00 PM
I cant seem to find the horizontal movement exersice any where on the site can someone please describe it to me or point me in the direction of a discription so i can add it to my routine.
Thanks
falcon
06-28-2005, 08:05 PM
Ringmasta,
Are you a member of Penis-Health?
Falcon
ringmasta187
06-28-2005, 08:12 PM
I would like to add horizontal movement to me workout routine but cannot find a discription on the exersice. Can someone please explain it to me or send me a link
Thanks
falcon
06-28-2005, 08:17 PM
Ringmasta,
You are posting the same question in two threads. Go to your previous post where I have responded.
Falcon
laval
06-29-2005, 01:02 AM
yup, i a member of penis-health i cant seem to find "horizontal movement" under any of their exercises i might just be blind but i cant see it.
laval,
your routine looks good.
if want to try out putting pc flexes inbetween your jelq work you can get a lot of fresh blood in there
i.e. 50 jelq then 25 flex 50 jelq 50 flex and so on
turtle
06-29-2005, 06:49 AM
laval
When you sign on to Penis Health and you are on the main page, look in the upper left hand corner. One of the bars is labled "other girth exercises" Click on it Horizontal Movement is in there.
turtle
mirwalk
06-29-2005, 08:42 AM
I was trying to do a 25 min workout plan that was on penis health. One part of the program specified horizontal movements, which I couldn't find on the site. Could someone please direct me to where the info is located or tell me how to do it.
Thanks in advance,
Mirwalk
turtle
06-29-2005, 08:54 AM
At the PH home page look at the upper left hand corner, click on other girth exercises. It's explained there.
turtle
mirwalk
06-29-2005, 08:31 PM
unfortuately I am not an upgraded member, so I don't see that.
ringmasta187
07-01-2005, 02:42 PM
yes i am a member, and i still cannot find it
I only see "more length exersices"
turtle
07-01-2005, 05:29 PM
Actually it's labled "more girth exercises" and it is two down from "more length exercises."
turtle
divxman111
07-03-2005, 06:00 PM
Hi guys just started the program and can't find the exercise called horizontal movement...any help?
falcon
07-04-2005, 08:01 PM
Go to Penis-Health.com.
Look in other exercises. I believe you will find it there. I also believe you will find it one of more painful exercises. I tried it two times, hated every second of it and just went to Ulis.
Ok, what is a Uli? Do a search on Ulis. You will find the exercise.
Falcon
Walter
07-04-2005, 10:45 PM
I am total newbie to this. I have just ordered my pills and in the meantime I am going to start the exercises. My main question being that on the penis health site under workout programs there is an exercise called "Horizontal Movement" I can't find any reference to it on the site? any ideas
Walter
john128
07-05-2005, 03:42 AM
It is in the left hand column under "more girth exercises". Hope this helps.
USANA69
07-07-2005, 05:31 AM
Hi Divxman
It's actually in the 'more girth exercises' section. I use it all the time and find it works well. It took me a while to master it but I now do 50 each session. I wouldn't be religious about the hand hold as shown in the video though - just find the hand hold that you find works best for you.
You need about a 70-80% erection for best effect.
Hope this helps
USANA69 :D
RoosterBooster
07-07-2005, 11:11 AM
Watch how this guy does it here (http://www.penisadd.com/videos/horizontalmovement.html) . Might help you out.
Check out this link to see what I wrote about the HM a while back. It might help too.
http://mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6054
Big Vine
Billy2time
08-10-2005, 03:17 PM
Hi, I'm very new to this whole thing and am trying to get a routine going. I'm looking at Penis-Health.com for my routine and it states to do horizontal movement, yet doesn't discribe how to do it.
Can anyone help me out on this?
Thanks!
B2T
turtle
08-10-2005, 08:07 PM
On the left you will see a tab that say other girth exercises. Click on it and you will find horizontal movement. Welcome to the forum and the world of PE.
turtle
Billy2time
08-11-2005, 12:26 PM
Humm...
I see a tab for more length exercises, but not girth. Can you elaborate?
Thanks!
B2T
turtle
08-11-2005, 12:46 PM
On my PH site there is a tab for "more girth exercises" It is located as the second one after "more length exercise" Perhaps you have PH lite and it's not there. I have the full PH membership and it is right where I just told you.
turtle
x00stalkr00x
08-11-2005, 04:21 PM
i was just trying to do the horizontal movement excercise. however, im a little too small to be able to do it correctly. I form the ring around the base of my penis, and i begin milking up and down with the other hand. however, there isnt a whole lot of room so I am not able to milk up and down effectively.
What do i do?
turtle
08-11-2005, 06:54 PM
For starters use an overhand grip for your milking hand, that gives you a little more room. If you have access to cable clamps you could clamp the base and then use your hand for the milking motion.
turtle
debel
08-15-2005, 12:49 AM
According the the routine, there is an exercise called Horizontal Movement. But I'm not able to find it. Can someone here please descibe it? :(
Thanks.,
The description I made in this thread might help. Check it out:
http://mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6054
Big Vine
FoolioDawg
08-23-2005, 08:01 AM
hi, i'm new as well, just started today. can someone describe the horizontal movement to us? i understand that it's in the full PH website, but it's rather unfair that a routine is made so that you can't completely do even after purchasing the product. is there a subsitute that we can do in place since we do not have the full PH? thanks
justin
turtle
08-23-2005, 08:40 AM
I more or less described it in the post just prior to your post, but real quick I'll do it again. Get fairly erect, 90-95%. Clamp at the base with an O-grip with your left hand. Then clamp on the remaining shaft with an O-grip and slide between the clamp and the head while maintaining the second O-grip.
turtle
FoolioDawg
08-24-2005, 07:56 AM
ah, many thanks. I just needed a little more description to understand.
o0o0odudeo0o0o
08-27-2005, 12:18 PM
hey you guys, ive been to wal-mart, lowes, home depot, fry's electronics and i still cant find the CableClamp, ive thought about using those releaseable cable ties but if i can find the CableClamp then that would be awesome. ive been to the CableClamp site but the packages they sell are like 5 small, 5 medium, and 5 large, or 20 mediums, but whoo needs that many. if you guys can help me out i would appreciate it
turtle
08-27-2005, 12:26 PM
I bought mine at a store nemed Menards. I think that it is a chain, but not sure. It is a large discount hardware store.
turtle
o0o0odudeo0o0o
08-27-2005, 12:28 PM
well ive never heard of it but ill look in the phone book, maybe they are in dallas, maybe.
turtle
08-27-2005, 01:40 PM
I was curious after you mentioned Dallas, Menards has a ton of locations in the MidWest. Nothing listed at their website for Texas. I know that cableclamps are sold at Home Depot. I think that you need to go there and ask several people until you find someone that knows what the product is, and where in the store that they are located. Also, I'm almost positive that I have seen the product for sale at Ace Hardware Stores. It shouldn't be that hard to find, it is a fairly common product in the States.
turtle
aaewcct
08-27-2005, 05:49 PM
On the Workout Programs workout Plan lists 'Horizontal Movement', but, I don't see that excercise on the site. Is it listed under another name?
aaewcct :confused:
highlander
08-28-2005, 08:42 PM
I didn't bother to look it up to give a definitive answer. But it is under another section, like girth or length. Check those out.
chadd
08-28-2005, 10:08 PM
The discription of the horizontal movement is under "The exerciese" the 5th one down, click on "more girth exercises". Some people have a problem getting into that one for some reason if they are not regular members.
CHADD
pearce6
08-31-2005, 06:02 PM
Let me know if you're able to find them...
rod_casa
09-01-2005, 06:32 PM
sorri
can u please elaborate on ur explanation of how horizontal movement works?
i think i get it, but not quite..
o0o0odudeo0o0o
09-01-2005, 06:38 PM
it has been a long time since ive stoped doing this exercise in my normal routine but here goes.
first lube your dick and clamp your base
then hold the clamp under the glans
take your other hand and clamp near the base
with the hand on the base, milk downwards while holding the clamp on the head
the milk should last about 2-3 seconds
and repeat as many times as youd like
mike-20
09-06-2005, 11:49 PM
Hi guys, I am new here and I would ask something about horizontal movement. Which is the stretch in this exercise? Upon the top or upon the base? :sm34
badrass23
09-07-2005, 12:46 AM
it's not a stretch.. it's pushing the blood through all the vessels from under the head to the base
batsizzlin
09-08-2005, 12:39 PM
In the begginers workout plan there is a step that is horizontal movement and i havent seen any PE exercises for it. So what do i do with horizontal movement?
o0o0odudeo0o0o
09-08-2005, 04:51 PM
this has been posted repeatedly over and over, if you have the lifetime membership to www.penis-health.com they you should see a tab under exercises that reads other girth exercises which should have a few pictures about it, but in the future use the forum search feature to see if your question has been answer before and not clutter up the forums ;)
longhoped
09-08-2005, 05:29 PM
It's pretty tough it seems...
skinsfan
09-28-2005, 08:58 AM
What is the horizontal movement exercise? I am new to the site and a beginner at PE and for the recommended routine it has HM listed but i cant find the description or anything (unless its under another name). Could someone help me out here? I am dedicated and wanna do this right. Any help is appreciated.
turtle
09-28-2005, 09:29 AM
Horizontal Movementis described on the PEnis Health site under other girth exercises. You click in the upper lefthand corner. If your not a PH member then do a search for it, I know that's it been discussed more than a few times.
turtle
moreplease
10-10-2005, 05:32 PM
when i do this exercise the head of my penis goes white and small, am i doing this right?
thanks
ray1013
10-11-2005, 07:31 AM
I've got confused when I found the horizontal movement in the recommended routine, but could not find it in the PH website.I just purchased the products today,barely know anything about PH. :confused:
turtle
10-11-2005, 08:33 AM
When you log on to the PH site, look in the upper left hand corner of the main page. You will see a tab labled "other girth exercises" click on the tab. HM is explained in there.
turtle
ScottMN
10-11-2005, 05:43 PM
Let us know what you think...
o0o0odudeo0o0o
10-11-2005, 06:36 PM
when your penis does that it means you cut off all the circulation to it so try to loosen your grip ;)
ray1013
10-15-2005, 07:18 PM
Still Can Not Find That Click.fisrt Of All,there Is No "other Exercise" Tab On The Web.is It Because I Didn't Upgrade My Membership?
firasnas
10-22-2005, 02:15 AM
I cant find it either its not thiere .....
ScottMN
10-24-2005, 02:52 PM
Yes, I believe that may be the reason. Just look up horizontal exercises in here for info. Although, we are adding 9 new exercises to PH in the next few months so you may think about joining up
trinifella1
10-24-2005, 04:21 PM
I dont kno if its just me but this exercise is pretty tough to do correctly. I have a foreskin so its kinda hard. Its like u jelq in 2 different directions (up and down), so pullin back the foreskin doesnt help. Lemme hear yall
tommyg
10-24-2005, 05:07 PM
Hi trinifella1,
Personally I don't like the horizontal movement, it feels funny to me so I don't do that exercise and focus more of my time on long schlong and jelqs. It is certainly not necessary in order to make gains.
Maybe someone else on this forum would be able to give you an insight on how to do it correctly.
tommyg
Bob13
10-25-2005, 12:38 AM
I can't seem to find that under any of the exercise descriptions. Could somebody please tell me what it is.
Thanks,
Bob
Beat_the_Myth
10-25-2005, 01:51 PM
One of the reasons why there are so many exercises to achieving the same goal is because not everyone can do the same exercise. If it's especially hard or uncomfortable for you to do, then try another one.
drifta86
10-25-2005, 04:00 PM
Hey there hopefully I got this correct and if im wrong please correct me but I believe you start with a semi-erect penis and hold your penis at the base with one hand and with the other hold under your head and then while holding pressure at the base of your penis stroke from the head down to the base and back to the head. Do this lubricated as many times as needed.
trinifella1
10-25-2005, 06:00 PM
Im doin da beginer's workout program (35-40 mins):
The Wake Up Cloth -3 mins
The Long Shlong - 8 mins
The Jelq - 10 mins
The Power Stretch - 6 mins
Horizontal Movement - 5 mins
Needling - 3 mins
The Wake Up Cloth - 2 mins
PC Flex Basic - varies
Now in response to da last reply by Beat_theMyth, all da other girth exercise are for advance users so i don't wanna try dem as yet. Wat ya'll suggest? should i jus devote dat 5 mins to more jelqing??
Beat_the_Myth
10-25-2005, 08:55 PM
That could be an option. If you would rather not I would suggest an Uli instead. It's fairly simple. I wouldn't class it as advanced, maybe beginner-intermediate.
ray1013
10-26-2005, 01:54 AM
The promotion of the Prosolution is bullshit.The membership could not even provide the basic exercises.And the membership is not life long as they said in the ads.
ScottMN
10-26-2005, 02:33 AM
First of all, very sorry about that. Which ad says it's a lifetime membership?
And which basic exercises were you looking for that it didn't provide???
ray1013
10-26-2005, 05:56 AM
The PH website says the membership is lifetime.(A ONE TIME CHARGE OF 63.64 AUD FOR LIFETIME ACCESS!This is what PH website says)
And the Prosolution's promotion ads do not acclaim that the membership they provided is not the same(64.99 AUD value for FREE !!!This is what prosolution website says in their promotion).The charge is covered by the bonus we supposed to get.So I assumed it was the same.For the basic exercises, first of all,define the basic exercises.I think the Prosolution's ph membership should involve all the necessary exercises for the beginners. After we see the result, we decide wheather or not upgrade the membership.Now, it missed one of the important first stage exercise.If you do not upgrade,you can not even start the routine.It's like a trick in order to force us to buy the PH membership.And you did not apply a condition to the promotion to inform the potential customers.We can suit u about this behavior.
I think u should post the horizontal movement here!I think this is the least compensation for us.
Daz MN Support
10-26-2005, 06:52 AM
PH Lite which is free with PSP does contain all the basic exercises.
ray1013
10-26-2005, 07:35 AM
Then where is horizontal movement?
turtle
10-26-2005, 08:46 AM
I do not know why people can not find this on the Penis Health web site, but I'm going to say it one more time. When you are logged on to the members page look in the upper left corner, and you will see some tabs. There is a tab called "other girth exercise" click on that and it will take you PH's description and the related video of the exercise. For all of you people who for some reason can't access that information, I will try to reasonably describe the horizontal movement exercise:
A lot of people don't like this exercise. It's kind of like a combination of a constricted jelq and a reverse trap jelq, but done at a lower erection level. It is especially difficult if your size is less than 5 inches, your hands get in each others way.
The Exercise, get about 60% erect,reasonably erect, then apply a tight constriction, o'ring grip, at the base with one hand. If you would rather use a Cable Clamp for your base constriction that's fine. With your other hand do an o'ring grip at the head, reasonably tight. Then milk down toward the base, and when your hands touch then milk back up towards the head while maintaining the constriction pressure with both hands. That is one rep, and it should take about 3 seconds. It's kind of like masturbation with a lot of restriction. If you try this and really dislike it, then forget it, and replace the horizontal movement PE effort with regular jelqs.
turtle
Beat_the_Myth
10-26-2005, 09:22 AM
Well said. But seriously, Penis Health couldn't make it any easier to find or explain.
trinifella1
10-26-2005, 09:43 AM
hey one other thing, the Ferrari Mega Pump should be performed for roughly how long or how much reps?
turtle
10-26-2005, 01:38 PM
Do a title search for "Performing the Horizontal Movement"
turtle
Beat_the_Myth
10-26-2005, 02:00 PM
Try Uli also.
trinifella1
10-26-2005, 04:36 PM
what is Uli???
trinifella1,
Please use the forum search function, as turtle suggested.
Just type in what you are trying to search for, such as "Performing a Uli," for example, and then browse through the threads/posts that relate to that topic.
Big Vine
ScottMN
10-26-2005, 10:28 PM
PH Lite DOES have all the basic exercises. Most people do not consider the horizontal movement a "basic" exercise.
The first words in PH's explanation of the horizontal movement:
"The Horizontal Movement exercise is usually done by the more experienced users".
Theoretically, we could both argue whether the horizontal movement is a basic exercise till the cows come home. We contend it's not.
turtle
10-27-2005, 08:34 AM
ScottMN
I have never seen Penis Health Lite, but I know that Regular Penis Health list Horizontal Movement as a Beginner exercise. As a matter of fact it's listed in the 7 to 10 minutes suggested routine. Clearly, Penis Health doesn't consider HM for more experienced users, regardless of what the explanation says, if they are going to list it as an exercise for complete beginners. Accordingly, I created a thread entitled "performing the horizontal movement" and placed it in the the advanced forum. I think someone needs to look at the consistency of PH's presentation.
turtle
trinifella1
10-27-2005, 10:01 AM
yea i shoulda done that b4 i asked. I found it by the way. Man there is just too many exercise out dere!!!!!
ray1013
10-27-2005, 07:45 PM
Thanks!For your information, it is like reg Jelq.But anyway, thanks a lot.I think the reason why we can't find the tabs is we don't upgrade the membership.
Jareth
10-28-2005, 12:38 PM
yea i shoulda done that b4 i asked. I found it by the way. Man there is just too many exercise out dere!!!!!
you talk like cookie monster, or donkey Kong LOL.. The horizontal movement is a difficult one to perform. I usually only do about 30 seconds each for two or three sets. But the reason i do them is i think it really stretches out the sides of the dick, making Ferries much better..
And thanks, turtle, for posting that "performing the horizontal movement" thread.
I've seen tons of questions on the forum from newbies looking for an explanation of this exercise and, quite frankly, I got a little tired of repeating the same thing over and over again (explaining how to find my own description of the exercise in a much older thread).
Hopefully your thread will address this issue.
As you suggested, it seems like it would be very helpful for the PH site to address the concerns that you mentioned with regards to the HM...If it's listed under the beginner routine, then its description should be included with the other more 'basic' exercises.
Personally, I consider the HM to be more of a beginner exercise than anything else---It certainly isn't anywhere near as intense as a Uli, for example, although it does still give a great pump to your mid-shaft girth.
Anyway...
What do you think guys, should we come to a consensus on how to classify the HM---whether it be considered...on the penis-health site...as a 'beginner,' 'intermediate,' or 'advanced' exercise?
Big Vine
dream123321
10-29-2005, 02:05 PM
i can see some people tend to argue that the horizontal movements is one of the basic exercise , well , i do agree with them as i have to do the horizontal movement in all work out plans, even the beginner workout programs,
(( The first words in PH's explanation of the horizontal movement:
"The Horizontal Movement exercise is usually done by the more experienced users".))
if it is done by the more experiened users , then why they include it in my work plan as a beginner!!!
dream123321
10-29-2005, 02:13 PM
ooops
i it seems that i didnt notice that there is a second page in this thread,
just ignore what i have just post above
Daz MN Support
10-29-2005, 03:32 PM
Right,
The entire Penis-Health member area is being re-done at the moment with aid from our 2 usa doctors we just got on board (more later) a very well respected PE GURU and this forum... great videos to come guys, expect this before xmas.. We will fix this error.
dream123321
10-29-2005, 03:58 PM
thank you very much for your reply Scott :)
MagnusP
10-31-2005, 01:39 PM
I don't really understand this exercise. I'm from Denmark, so i was hoping that someone could explain it for me, in a more understandable way. Maybe some pictures?
If I have a curvage to the left, should I then just jelq to the left, or what? :sm30
Thank you!
drakon86
10-31-2005, 07:41 PM
I dont really think this exercise helps curvage. But here is the best explanation I can give you. First you want to get yourself to a partial erection, Take you forefinger and and thumb and place it in a ring shape around the base. Then do the same with your fingers but place them below the head. The slowly stroke downwards toward the hand at the base. When you reach the hand at the base slowly milk back up to where you started. That is one rep. Do as many as needed.
turtle
10-31-2005, 09:16 PM
If you want an explanation with a little more detail do a search for "performing the horizontal movement" drakon86 directions are correct, I just provided a little more detail in the perfroming post.
turtle
rambis10
11-02-2005, 04:14 PM
I looked at the workout rountines on Penis-Health.com, and they all have the Horizontal Movement exercise. But I cannot find that exercise anywhere on the site! Where can I find it? Thanks.
turtle
11-02-2005, 09:49 PM
Do a search for "performing the horizontal movement"
turtle
chiplay
12-07-2005, 04:20 PM
Help a fella out...I can't find the exercise
Dazzlingdaz3
12-07-2005, 06:56 PM
search on the phrase
performing the horizontal movement :)
Cheers
Daz
warwizard
12-08-2005, 08:31 PM
I tried searching in the http://www.prosolutionpills.com/members/ but I couldn't find the excersize the Horizontal Movement. Can anyone help me put on this?
turtle
12-09-2005, 06:27 AM
Go to PH site, then look at the upper left and click on other girth exercises. HM is in there. If you just want a written description do a search on MN for "performing the horizontal movement"
turtle
warwizard
12-09-2005, 10:08 AM
Thanks for the reply. I can only find " Extra Exercises" which includes "Curvate Straightening" "Foreskin Restoration" and " Advanced Techniques". Oh well.
::Edit:: Ok I found where you Turtle described it. Thanks ::edit::
http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8111&highlight=performing+horizontal+movement
loyases
12-24-2005, 12:19 PM
Just about to start PE. My pills are on the way and I've been reading carefully the exercises in which I will need to be doing. However, I looked at the workout programs and noticed that I will need to be doing an exercise called "Horizontal Movement." I couldn't find this exercise on the website so I don't even have an idea on how this exercise is done. Can anyone help and explain how to perform this exercise?
WolfMan19
12-24-2005, 02:30 PM
Its under Extra Exercises, under Curvate Straightening and its now called The Curved Jelq. I had the same problem finding it but then saw in the described that it was reffered to as Horizontal Movement. Good luck with your PE! :sm29
You could also search for a thread (courtesy of Turtle) entitled "performing the horizontal movement," which provides an explanation of this exercise.
Big Vine
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