Mass gaining

[LLM]

I am taking male enhancement pills and on a Muscle building program at the same time. I am about to start some exercises for my...yeah...will this effect my mass gaining or will my muscle building program effect my other size in anyway? And can weight training...and I guess penis training...even be done at the same time?

[Big Al]

The pills should not interfere with your mass gains.

As long as your mass gaining program doesn't involve putting on a lot of bodyfat, you'll probably notice a slight synergistic effect with weight training and PE through cardiovascular improvement.

[LLM]

I am doing heavy lifting and am required to consume about 170 grams of protein, 220 carbs on workout days, 120 carbs on non-workout days, and 75 grams of fat, daily. I am not supposed to do any other forms of workouts that burn a lot of calories. Should I just wait till I'm on my fat loss diet? Right now I am on a muscle building program for some weight gain, but I want to improve on that other area of my body too.

[Big Al]

It sounds like you're on a fat loss diet already. You're taking in less than 2000 calories a day.

Why can't you do any other activity while you lift heavy. A little cardio improve capillary density of the muscles. Just don't run any marathons :)

[LLM]

I'm 121 lbs. I need about 2200 calories.

[Jareth]

PE does burn calories when you get advanced, but starting out as a newbie it should have no effect on a muscle building diet, actually neither would an advanced program! Do your pe, and make sure to do legs, and cardio when weightlifting. Doing legs will shoot amino acids up your body, and help you build muscle easier, cardio will supply the body with more exygenated blood therefore makeing blood flow better!

[Big Al]

I'm 121 lbs. I need about 2200 calories.

You're not getting 2200 calories with the macronutrient breakdown you gave. BTW, how tall are you?

[wohoo19m]

Where's the healthy fats? Your body needs them too, and they supply alot more calories for enegry per gram to boot than carbs and proteins.

If your taking male enhancement pills, then this will only benefit your mass training as well because the pills promote bloodflow. So the nutrients will flow throughout your body quicker.

With the macronutrients you gave ( if I remember my numbers correctly ) Your getting about only 1500 calories. PE doesn't burn so many calories that you have to worry about it. Unless you do your PE while jogging or something...

BTW, You seem so strict with yourself, leave yourself some room to test stuff out. See what works for YOU.

[LLM]

You're not getting 2200 calories with the macronutrient breakdown you gave. BTW, how tall are you?

1 gram of any type of carb always = 4 calories
1 gram of any type of protein always = 4 calories
1 gram of any type of oil or fat always = 9 calories
DO THE MATH!!...joking!...but seriouly.

By the way, i'm 5'3". If that makes a difference anywhere, please, let me know, seriouly, please, Does it?

[LLM]

By the way, I am consuming healthy fats like flaxseed oil, fish oil, etc.

[Unprecedent3d]

i'm not sure about height, but i think weight makes a difference on how much you should take in, in terms of calories/protein/carbs. i have a link to a website with really good advice on intake of calories/protein/carbs. it doesn't have anything to do with p/e, so i'm sure its not going to be a problem posting it, but if there is a problem, then i'll just delete it or a mod can delete it.

http://www.extremefitness.com/forum/t19195.html
http://www.extremefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=582

[LLM]

i'm not sure about height, but i think weight makes a difference on how much you should take in, in terms of calories/protein/carbs. i have a link to a website with really good advice on intake of calories/protein/carbs. it doesn't have anything to do with p/e, so i'm sure its not going to be a problem posting it, but if there is a problem, then i'll just delete it or a mod can delete it.

http://www.extremefitness.com/forum/t19195.html
http://www.extremefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=582

I have just recently ordered a program, and I got to say, I have gained 10 pounds the first two weeks!! 2 lbs of it is fat, but 8 lbs is muscle.

[LLM]

(Sorry if I seem rude to anyone, I'm just giving information and asking for help/advice)

[Big Al]

I am doing heavy lifting and am required to consume about 170 grams of protein, 220 carbs on workout days, 120 carbs on non-workout days, and 75 grams of fat, daily. I am not supposed to do any other forms of workouts that burn a lot of calories. Should I just wait till I'm on my fat loss diet? Right now I am on a muscle building program for some weight gain, but I want to improve on that other area of my body too.

and

1 gram of any type of carb always = 4 calories
1 gram of any type of protein always = 4 calories
1 gram of any type of oil or fat always = 9 calories
DO THE MATH!!...joking!...but seriouly.

Calorie count for LLM's diet:

Protein: 170 x 4= 680
Carbs: High day: 220 x 4= 880, Low day: 120 x 4= 480
Fats: 75 x 9= 675

Total calories per day:

High carb day: 680 + 880 + 675= 2235

Low carb day: 680 + 480 + 675= 1835

You didn't mention how many days per week you were going low carb.

By the way, i'm 5'3". If that makes a difference anywhere, please, let me know, seriouly, please, Does it?

What was your starting weight? What's your BF percentage? What are your goals? I can tell you that even at 5'3", at 121 you're still quite light. Don't be afraid to put on a little bodyfat if you're trying to gains mass- just don't let it get out of hand.

[LLM]

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Calorie count for LLM's diet:

Protein: 170 x 4= 680
Carbs: High day: 220 x 4= 880, Low day: 120 x 4= 480
Fats: 75 x 9= 675

Total calories per day:

High carb day: 680 + 880 + 675= 2235

Low carb day: 680 + 480 + 675= 1835

You didn't mention how many days per week you were going low carb.



What was your starting weight? What's your BF percentage? What are your goals? I can tell you that even at 5'3", at 121 you're still quite light. Don't be afraid to put on a little bodyfat if you're trying to gains mass- just don't let it get out of hand.

Well now I am at 131 lbs in only 2 weeks....I started off at 121 lbs. But muscle building aside, can I get great results in both areas at the same time doing P.E.'s and Heavy lifting? And if so, which days do I do P.E.'s. I Weight train Mon, Wed, and Fri.

[Big Al]

I don't see how PE will interfere with your lifting. Even at the advanced levels, PE isn't that strenuous. You'll burn more calories if you walked around the block than you would doing PE :p

[LLM]

But I am also taking male enhancement supplements, will this effect anything? Neg. or Pos.?

[Big Al]

But I am also taking male enhancement supplements, will this effect anything? Neg. or Pos.?

I already responded to that: http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showpost.php?p=59970&postcount=2. If anything, the pills have a slight stimulant effect and should provide a better workout.

[LLM]

Sorry. It's just that I am not supposed to do any form of cardio or aerobics while on this program, which has given me great results so far. Any suggestions? Should I just wait for my program to end(Which is in 6 weeks)?

[Big Al]

Sorry. It's just that I am not supposed to do any form of cardio or aerobics while on this program, which has given me great results so far. Any suggestions? Should I just wait for my program to end(Which is in 6 weeks)?

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showpost.php?p=60108&postcount=16

Do you want advice or do you want us to tell you what you wish to hear? :confused:

Your mentality towards your lifting reminds me of when I trained at an mixed martial arts school in Miami that was situated across the street from a Gold's gym. Almost once a week we'd get the hard core bodybuilder type strolling in with lats flared, asking if he could participate in a class. Nine out of ten times, these types were unable to handle their own bodyweight without any agility, and their endurance sucked! They usually performed worse that the average untrained individual, and they tried to make up for their lack of balance and endurance with short bursts of strength (not a wise thing to do against a trained fighter). By the end of the class [those that made it to the end, anyway], these bodybuilder types would leave humbled, with their tails between their legs, and never to be seen again.

I've never agreed with the idea of doing nothing but lifting. If you're training for a competition or something, I can understand; but what good is being "big" if you don't have at least a fair amount of cardio condition, endurance, and agility.

To each his own, I guess.

Well, I've had my rant :sm31 If you still feel that PE will interfere with your regimen, wait until you're done with that particular lifting routine.

[Unprecedent3d]

he said it was only going to last another 6 weeks or so, so i'm guessing afterwards he'll start on cardio?

[LLM]

I am actually strength training for football( I'm the ankle breaking type of RB), I have great speed, agility, endurance, and mad balance. I'm just looking to pack on more weight and get stronger. I will start the P.E.'s when I am on my fat loss diet (get ripped diet) so that my food diet will basically be the same as...I guess the penis diet. I will be doing cardio and light weight, more reps workouts. Thanks everybody(especially Big Al). If anybody has anymore suggestions, please, let me know, no matter what it has to do with.

[Unprecedent3d]

wait how old are you?

[LLM]

I'm 19 years old.