Tutorial - PC flex Basic for Stamina and Control

[ReadyToGain]

How long should you hold you pc muscles for? And how many reps? I hear a lot of people do 300 - 500 a day. is that just like 1-2 second holds or long holds 0f 10-20 seconds?

Is it beneficial to hold that long?

[tigerbartlett]

1-2 second holds are okay. I like to do 10 second holds because it is similar to trying to prevent ejaculation when having sex.

The PC is a muscle, and the more or longer you hold or perform the exercises, the more fatigued it will become. Just like needing to rest the penis after a session in order to recover, or heal, so does the PC need to have time to recuperate.

My personal routine goes somewhat like this:

I perform approximately 500 per day, in sets of 100. At every 10th PC flex, I will hold for about 10 to 15 seconds. The 100th PC flex, I will hold for 1 minute, with about a few minutes rest in between sets. You can do them all at once or throughout the day, it's your choice!

PC's can be done anytime without anyone knowing that you're doing them. You can develop your own program.

Just a little advice. If you are going to have sex later in the day, perform the PC's afterwards so you don't compromise your ability to perform. :eek:

[Unregistered]

I have trouble holding the flex for more than a second. Any suggestions?

[tigerbartlett]

You could try this technique out, it may help you out!

It is based on a theory called "touch therapy" or something along that line.

First, locate your PC muscle. It is located between your anus and scrotum. Take a finger, or two fingers, and press inwards into your body to feel the muscle being flexed. Your penis should "jump" a little. To help assist you in finding the PC muscle, imagine that you are urinating and then try to stop the flow in mid-flow. This muscle that you flex to stop urinating is your PC, and you will feel your PC flex and squeeze hard when you have your fingers on top of the muscle. You have just found your PC muscle!

Now, when you are performing your PC flexes, put your fingers on top of your PC muscle, and flex it, squeezing and holding it as per your exercises. The fact that you have a touch stimulus on your PC muscle will make it easier to "feel" your muscle being contracted. The muscle contraction feeling will be felt by your fingers. Doing this will help you focus more! You will then be able to hold your squeeze for a longer time duration.

The longer you can flex and hold your PC muscle, the more you will be able to simulate holding off ejaculation for a few more seconds yet!

Try it out!

This was a method that I used to develop longer PC flexes. Nowadays, I don't need to do this.

:)

[blaman]

i have a question....in the PC flex exercise description it says this...

<B>Sit down and obtain an erection by manual stimulation and sit with your back straight. </B>

I'm assuming that when they say you can do it anytime or anywhere that they don't mean you have to be sitting up straight and having an erection? I mean I'm all up for doing it while I'm in the car...but if I have to have an erection it might be a little hard to drive straight.

Is there any diff between doing it with an erection and without one?

[tigerbartlett]

About the only difference that I can see, is that your penis will respond by "jumping" up more with an erection as compared to flaccid PC flexes.

Flexing and squeezing the pc muscle with an erection may promote vascularity, in theory, as blood that is infused into the penis will stretch the chambers slightly with each flex, thus flooding and dilating the capillaries, blood vessels, and veins even more. If blood is reaching a point further away, the body will compensate by trying to extend the capillaries, etc, to develop a more efficient transport system for the blood!

Although PE in general will provide this benefit, anyways. This is just a theory that I have, nothing more!

PC flexes can be performed in either condition, flaccid or with an erection! :)

[darkonx]

I am trying do the PC Flex Basic, but I can't tense my PC muscle.

Can anyone here help?

[mellow-yellow]

U know when ya mum used to go kick you up the ass its exactly like that...or even try to make your penis move just like moving your ears...simple....hope that helps..

[Splack]

Next time your taking a piss stop midway before your actually done. Thats how you flex your PC(obviously you dont have to be urinating to do it).

[mike-20]

How could I know if I have a strong pc muscle?I think that my pc is very strong and I don't do the pc flexes.I tell that because my penis is very hard and firm in erection and it stands upwards.What I have to do?Doing pc flex or not? :sm30

[vandel]

Well when you have an errection you can notice the muscle that goes up the bottom of your shaft im almost postive thats your pc muscle mine is a little softer then it should be in my opinion but it is big :) so i guess if you feel it and yours is hard then that would mena you have a strong 1

[DiGiT_xero]

Usually people measure PC strength by urine control.. lol.. when you go to the bathroom, try to stop peeing in the middle, and completely stop.. ( without your hands ) lol.. and if you can just stop, you do have a strong one :)

[Loadman 1]

I can stop, but I get a fast spurt of urine before I do? what does that mean?

[DiGiT_xero]

Its just part of your muscle flexing before you stop...
its just like flexing your bicept without moving your arm...

[vandel]

you can even just gently squeeze your pc muscle with you fingers and it will also stop the flow og urine that might help you find the muscle as well. i can stop myself form being no problem now

[tommyg]

How could I know if I have a strong pc muscle?I think that my pc is very strong and I don't do the pc flexes.I tell that because my penis is very hard and firm in erection and it stands upwards.What I have to do?Doing pc flex or not? :sm30
Hi mike-20,

I think you should do pc flexes, not only does it help with improving erections, but will help you maintain your rock hard erections as you age. Not only that, it helps prevent you from getting prostate cancer(which is a good thing :) ).

So regardless, I think you should do it! :)

tommyg

[mike-20]

Thank you a lot for your responses!I shall keep doing!

[cypher79]

I notice that on the Penis-Health website it says u should be erect when u do the PC flex, well I do my PC flex's during the day when I'm at work so I dont really want to be getting erect?! What are your feelings on this guys? Have all these non-erect flex's I've been doing a waste of time?

[wohoo19m]

No they haven't, that's just another way to do a pc flex. You don't need to be erect to do them.

[dannyboy101]

Do we have to be erect at all? because the muscle can be tensed whilst not erected.. I struggle to keep erect when performing this, so can I perform it when not?
cheers

[turtle]

flaccid is fine. Erect is useful as a variation, but clearly not required.
turtle

[snatch]

flex it as much as you can all day long and it will get strong. no, you dont have to be erect. Give it some rest though or it wont recover as fast.

[Metro]

I can stop a stream too, but i KNOW i can get it stronger.

plus, it never is a bad thing to have a VERY well developed PC.

[DiGiT_xero]

I agree, a strong PC means you can last a lot longer! :) I am developing mine.. slowly.. :sm22 :sm22 How do you work this thing? lol

[Project_Moss]

Hi I am doing the beginner exercise and I have a question about the PC Flex or PC Exercise. I know you flex for 3-5 seconds but does that mean you use your fingers and apply pressure to the muscle to make your penis flex? Or do you not use your hand at all and just flex the muscle using your penis only then let go? Thanks for the help guys.

[Jareth]

Hi I am doing the beginner exercise and I have a question about the PC Flex or PC Exercise. I know you flex for 3-5 seconds but does that mean you use your fingers and apply pressure to the muscle to make your penis flex? Or do you not use your hand at all and just flex the muscle using your penis only then let go? Thanks for the help guys.
Welp just flex without putting your fingers on your PC.. Though i used to do an ancient pe method that involved breathing, and applying pressure to your pc, as soon as i find my book with the method i will post... PC flex can be done all day, not need to apply pressure.

[vandel]

yeah jareth when you find that book let us know id be interested in knowing about it

[Project_Moss]

Alright because I was doing a completely wrong exercise then. I was using 2-3 fingers each flex and pushing on the pc muscle with them to manually flex my penis, Ill make the correction on my next workout thanks.

[talisman]

ok, do as i say below
The method that involved breathing, and applying pressure to your pc, as soon as i find my book with the method i will post... PC flex can be done all day, not need to apply pressure.
just remember that, and i'm sure u'll be aaaight :sm38

[snatch]

also, instead of just flexing it try to elevate it and pull it up inside you. when you relax it again you should feel it drop an and it seems to feel heavier than before. could be all the new blood within it. give it a whirl and tell me how it worked. thanks

[Project_Moss]

Hi I do the standard PC Flex and have been working out for about 2 weeks and this seems to be my most difficult workout. It seems like I lose erection after about only 5 reps, any advice anyone to stay hard? I usually try to do each flex 3 seconds each with 2 seconds in between and try to get in 100 or so. Any tips vets? Thx.

[Jareth]

Hi I do the standard PC Flex and have been working out for about 2 weeks and this seems to be my most difficult workout. It seems like I lose erection after about only 5 reps, any advice anyone to stay hard? I usually try to do each flex 3 seconds each with 2 seconds in between and try to get in 100 or so. Any tips vets? Thx.
ITs not really necessary to be hard when workin the pc, only some variations calls for erection...

[Project_Moss]

I am doing the PC flex from this site and it says you need to be 100 % erect. www.freepenisenlargementguide.us
I just squeeze without using my hand and after about 5-10 I lose hardness.

[Project_Moss]

Also are you saying you can do this exercise completely flacid not hard at all? Do you just squeeze it. Also I have a question about each rep. Do you squeeze for 3 seconds let go for 2 seconds then start another 3 second squeeze? Thx.

[Ricter]

Also are you saying you can do this exercise completely flacid not hard at all? Do you just squeeze it. Also I have a question about each rep. Do you squeeze for 3 seconds let go for 2 seconds then start another 3 second squeeze? Thx.

I'm doing it most days completely flacid. I've noticed that as I've gotten stronger, each rep pulls my flacid unit farther into my body then they did when I was weaker.

I think that since the PC is truly a muscle, it can be trained like one. You can focus on endurance (ie. lots of reps, or very long reps), or strength (very hard squeezes of shorter duration). I plan to try both, but right now I'm getting comfortable with endurance. This week I'm up to 210 quick reps, moderate squeeze, but plan to convert the 210 into one LONG rep as my ultimate endurance goal. After about six weeks, I'll shift to strength and try to "break" the muscle with hard, hard squeezes. After that, back to endurance. Periodicity training applied to the PC, lol.

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[Project_Moss]

Yes but you didnt answer my question. I am doing reps 3 seconds long with a 2 second space then I do another and this is hard to do, am I doing something wrong because this is a difficult exercise for me to do for some reason? Are you saying I should do this in a flaccid state and not an errect one?

[jamel]

^^^ It's not necessary to have an erection when doing pc flex execises, you can just do it in flaccid state.

[wohoo19m]

Your doing it right, it's just hard to do because your muscle is weak right now. You'll get better with time. I can hold for 1 min now.

[FireCross]

Wow thats pretty impressive Wohoo, i just started PC flexing and i can barely hold for an embarassing 3 sec when errect.... cant wait till ive caught up with you... i have a problem singling out the PC muscle still when flaccid. any tips or pointers you can give?

[Project_Moss]

I just feel PC Flex is easier to do when errect. For one thing you can definitely tell when ur penis jumps and it just seems easier. When flacid I cant feel it as well and doesnt feel like im really doing anything.

[Jareth]

Supposedly pc work is supposed to cure premature ejaculation, make you shoot father, as well as make you have harder bonners.. From personal experience pc work has made me have harder bonners, allow me to release more cum, and shoot farther. I have become aware with squeezing to shoot farther, and i understand the concept of controlling it when it comes to cumming.. But recently i have been quite short when it come to having sex with my GF, and i think its due to working the pc, was wondering if anybody else has had positive, while negative effects from workin the pc...

[Big Al]

A strong PC will also result in more pleasureable sex. You'll have to condition yourself against ejaculationg too soon. You'll find an excellent exercise for extending stamina here: http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44261&postcount=3.

[Jareth]

A strong PC will also result in more pleasureable sex. You'll have to condition yourself against ejaculationg too soon. You'll find an excellent exercise for extending stamina here: http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44261&postcount=3.
Thanks for the reply BA, i actually do do that method when i edge, or i belive its called uli. I will probly bring myself to near orgasm multiple times while doing girth, i like how it pumps the dick up after girth, and think its good for circulation. Iam actually pretty positive my (one pump chump) is from doing pc work. As long as i give it a couple days i think ill be ok, instead of doing them everyday. I like how they increase erection strength, as well as make me shoot farther, and control cumming (it sounds like iam contradicting myself but iam really not) see i could have sex for an hour but that would be with consistantly stopping, and squeezing my pc from near cumming. Instead of having sex for a while and having to control my ejactulation once or twice, undertand what i mean??? I know its confusing. Anyways we will see tonight if my assumption is on, gf cumming over tonight :sm19

[Big Al]

The stop and start is an exercise in focus. You won't develop the stamina and mental discipline from doing girth work as you would from the stop and starts.

[Jareth]

The stop and start is an exercise in focus. You won't develop the stamina and mental discipline from doing girth work as you would from the stop and starts.
HMM!!! I think we might be confused. I do my girth and than afterwards i do the "start and stop" i did this probly twenty times yesterday after pe. Anyways i was so horney yesterday throught the day when my gf came over we got it on. I lasted a decent amount of time for continusouly haveing wood the entire day "if u know what i mean" Or do u mean doing the start and stop while having sex with her???

[Big Al]

You can do the stop and start with a partner. That has to be the most fun way of doing it :)

[Jareth]

You can do the stop and start with a partner. That has to be the most fun way of doing it :)
Agree totally LOL!!!! Iam gonna give the pc a rest from work, i mean naturally while pe ing the pc muscle is used so iam gonna cut out my 100 or 200 a day i do. This is a big issue in pe and will tell u my results. :sm38

[chazster]

I was wondering if when other people flex their pc muscle does their penis swell? I mean my gf knows when I flex my pc muscle during sex. Actually I use to do it during sex just cause it use to swell. I also held it like that during sex. Would this be a good way to exercise the pc muscle?

[mafuie]

can anyone tell me exactly how to flex the pc muscle i know its behind the testicle,do u squeeze it with two fingers or push it in how does it work?

[PSYCHES2012]

can anyone tell me exactly how to flex the pc muscle i know its behind the testicle,do u squeeze it with two fingers or push it in how does it work?


When you take a piss, stop the flow of urine. that muscle you use to stop the flow of urine is your pc muscle.

[mafuie]

Thanks For Answering Part Of My Question,how Is It Done,do U Squeeze It Or Push It In ??

[Dazzlingdaz3]

Thanks For Answering Part Of My Question,how Is It Done,do U Squeeze It Or Push It In ??

hey man,
you do neither as such.....

you "flex" the muscle, and when you stopped your urine mid stream you achieved exactly that!!! you also reverse flexed your PC muscle when you pushed to start urinating again.
There you have it.... PC flexes. You do not have to urinate to do them and when you get used to how to do them on command, they can be done anywhere at anytime.

Simple practise, stand at the toilet and stop and start your urine stream several times in succession, Easy!!!!!, now do that exact same thing without pissing and your on your way

Cheers
Daz

[mafuie]

Thanks ,i Read That U Can Isolate The Pc Muscle From The Rest Simply By Squeezing It With Your Fingers Or By Pushing It With Your Finger Is That True? If So, Can Anyone Explain It To Me

[Dazzlingdaz3]

Thanks ,i Read That U Can Isolate The Pc Muscle From The Rest Simply By Squeezing It With Your Fingers Or By Pushing It With Your Finger Is That True? If So, Can Anyone Explain It To Me

You can feel the PC muscle with your fingers. Simply dig your fingers into the perenium, the stretch of skin between your balls and your asshole and flex your PC muscle as explained previously, you will feel the muscle within clench, this is the PC muscle ;)

Cheers
Daz

[Jareth]

I was wondering if when other people flex their pc muscle does their penis swell? I mean my gf knows when I flex my pc muscle during sex. Actually I use to do it during sex just cause it use to swell. I also held it like that during sex. Would this be a good way to exercise the pc muscle?
my gf can to, she actually likes it. Have your girl squeeze as well u can feel her pussy get nice and tight...

[cypherphx]

couldn't find this in the search...

I would assume that it's okay to do PC flexes while using the traction device but I just want to make sure. Any theory behind this? :sm33

[10&Then]

You know, at one point and time I thought about the samething. I tried doing it until I got an erection!!! Talk about pain; felt like I was in a vice grip. I think one PC flex for every 30 seconds would do the trick, but then again I'm not that confident about saying that. I too would like to hear from a Guru about this as well. :D

[xyz_xiyi]

couldn't find this in the search...

I would assume that it's okay to do PC flexes while using the traction device but I just want to make sure. Any theory behind this? :sm33

Yes this would help in fact, it would increase the rate of growing penis from what I read in other forum.

[Jareth]

Ok its been a few weeks since i posted this. And have come to conclusion that my "one pump chump" in the sac was due to my overworked pc muscle. For many this aids in premature ejaculation, for me it was causing it. I cut down on my pc work and have lasted as long as i want in the sac. Just upadating like i told Big Al..

[biggerandbetter]

Hey Jareth,

Glad to see you've got over your problem!! And thanks for sharing this experience with us :o

Almost everything I read about PC flexes, it always says to do them everyday whenever you think of it, or to do 100+ each day. With your experience would you recommend to do it less, like one day on, one day off?

Cheers

[Jareth]

Hey Jareth,

Glad to see you've got over your problem!! And thanks for sharing this experience with us :o

Almost everything I read about PC flexes, it always says to do them everyday whenever you think of it, or to do 100+ each day. With your experience would you recommend to do it less, like one day on, one day off?

Cheers
yEAH I think i would recommend doing it one day than resting the next. See when u pe if u edge, or do squeezes or do ferraris exercises like this it calls for teh pc muscle to be worked anyways, and most the time it gets tired from squeezing so hard, than after the workout you do another hundred causing it to really be tired, and leading me to my problem premature ejaculation. Now if it doesn't effect u in the sac than i don't see anyreason to stop them, but if u are having the "one pump chump" syndrome than it could be from an overworked PC muscle.

[strimmer]

I've been doing about 200-300 reps of the PC Flex per day about 4 or 5 days a week now for the past month. I've noticed tremendous increase in strenghth of my erections. However I'm now experiencing problems in not being able to ejaculate while having sex. Could this be a result of having too strong of a PC muscle? I thought about cutting back on the number of reps per week, but I would hate to do that because of the significant gain in erection strength I've seen since performing the exercises. Has anyone experienced similar problems? Any suggestions? My girlfriend likes the fact that I can now last all night, but she worries that it's her fault and that she's not doing enough to turn me on.

[Vine]

Now I'm just guessing here, but you may actually be squeezing your PC muscle throughout sexual activity; even when you don't intend to...which could be the cause for this delayed ejaculation.

What I've found through years of masturbation, practicing reaching the point of no return and then using my PC muscle to prevent ejaculation, etc....
...is that my PC muscle starts to squeeze repetitively---almost as an involuntary action---whenever I'm trying to maintain a strong erection (whether it be for masturbating, sex, PE, or otherwise).

But while this repetitive squeezing of the muscle may allow for harder erections, it can also be partially responsible for preventing you from ejaculating as you would like to.

The solution:
Just try to concentrate purposefully on NOT flexing your PC muscle as soon as you feel the sensation leading to orgasm...
To take things one step further you could, at the same time, "push" as though you are trying to force yourself to urinate quicker.

Try these techniques and see how they work for you. It may take some practice, but hopefully your girl won't mind.:p

Hell, at the very least you could just practice this while jacking off!

Big Vine

[strimmer]

Thanks Big Vine. It seems that's exactly what's happening...inadvertent flexing of the PC muscle throughout the entire session of sex, which is preventing me from getting off. So I assume it's mostly a mental thing, something that I'll need to force myself to concentrate on. I'll give it a try!

[Vine]

Hehe. Glad you seem to understand what I wrote...this is kind of a complicated issue.

Yes, it does primarily boil down to the mental control that you have over what your PC muscle is doing.
***However...and this is important...you do NOT want this pre-occupying your thoughts during intercourse! You'll get distracted, frustrated, and let-down if you fall into this trap.

The best bet is to try to relax as much as possible during sex...don't try to purposely flex your PC in order to help gain an erection quicker. Just let the girl do her thing, and sit back and relax...completely relax.

You will want to flex that PC muscle! At times it may seem as though you can't help it. But you can...so don't do it.

It may take longer, but you should still be able to achieve an erection without flexing it---And once you do, your PC muscle will be all the more 'fresh' since you have avoided using it, thus far.

Now, with a trained PC muscle, you will be able to flex for a while without it getting exhausted. I'd try this:

Plan on only using it for about 5 minutes during sexual relations...be it oral, penetration, whatever. That way you can start really going at it once you've already gotten hard and been stimulated for a while.

With any luck, this will bring on that sensation to ejaculate.

When it arrives, don't flex your PC muscle...For now you just need to worry about ejaculating, period. Don't worry about trying to shoot it across the room. Lol!

Once you feel the cum about to leave your dick, then start flexing it---That way the cum will be well on its way to being shot out of you, and clamping down on the PC muscle will help it shoot out. Trust me, this will work.
It may require some practice and timing, but it will work.

Remember, you can always practice this on your own---doing so on another human can be much more fun, but it can also be more difficult and frustrating as well.

It all takes practice, so just don't get too discouraged if it takes some time to master.

Hope this helps.
Big Vine

[Striver]

Do PC Flexes always have to be done with an erect penis or can they be done when your floppy? I am starting up pe ing once more with the hope this time of experiencing some gains. Although I'm sure I could do with a stronger PC muscle I never feel any pain or discomfort after doing pc flexes. I've just been at it for an hour! The fact that my pc muscle feels in no way stressed suggests to me my excercises have been to no avail. Does anyone else have this problem? Or can anyone suggest what I might be doing wrong?

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks

Striver

[Vine]

Well, just be sure that it is, in fact, your PC muscle that you are actually flexing! (I'm assuming you've correctly located it already through stopping in the middle of urinating or through some other method).

If so, then the more flexes you do on any given day (or hour, in your case), the weaker your flexing of the muscle will become---due to the fact that you are tiring it out by doing all those flexes.

If you don't notice this happening, then try to make certain that you are doing the following:
Just make sure that each flex lasts a good 2-3 seconds and really flex it hard---don't just do it passively; you need to really focus and concentrate on getting an intense flexing of the PC muscle.

Performing this exercise in the flaccid state is perfectly fine....Preferrable, actually, since you don't need privacy that way.

Hope this helps.
Big Vine

[DJ66]

I prefer to do mine erect but thats more of a case that i can actually see it happening, i guess in time once i get used to the feeling i might decide to do it when im not. Bigvine do you think all of them should be 3 seconds? prehaps i read things wrong but isn't quicker flexes more for getting harder? Also are there any other things you can do to make sure your doing them right though? i think i am but i wanna be sure (no point sitting about for exercising for ages if your doing it wrong)

[Vine]

Not every single flex that you perform in a given session needs to be 2-3 seconds long.
If you prefer, you could do shorter, more intense "bursts." Alternatively, you could hold each flex for a longer period of time.
I believe that there is value in mixing in both methods.

As to whether or not you're doing it correctly...just try to stop yourself during mid-urination. That's about all I can suggest. If you succeed, then you've located your PC muscle. You can also verify this when you are not pissing as well:
Take a finger and press it between your scrotum and your anus. Flex, and you should feel it pushing down on your finger each time.

Hope this helps clear things up.
Big Vine

[badrass23]

after doing a good amount, it should make your limp dick fuller and your erect dick less erect... do a search for PC KILLER.. involves short flexes, 3 second flexes, as long as you can flexes, and reverse flexes.. really good

[Big Al]

Do PC Flexes always have to be done with an erect penis or can they be done when your floppy? I am starting up pe ing once more with the hope this time of experiencing some gains. Although I'm sure I could do with a stronger PC muscle I never feel any pain or discomfort after doing pc flexes. I've just been at it for an hour! The fact that my pc muscle feels in no way stressed suggests to me my excercises have been to no avail. Does anyone else have this problem? Or can anyone suggest what I might be doing wrong?

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks

Striver

You don't have to do them with an erection. PC work with erections have more of an effect, though. Just make sure that it's the PC that you're flexing.

[DJ66]

thanks bigvine i am doing it right i am just really wanting to get my pc muscle worked out proper, at the moment i am trying to do it flacid while feeling the spot you describe so i can make sure im doing it right for a certain amount of time. I like doing them erect best but i often loose the erection any tips?

[stevedave]

its been really hard for me to tell if im actually flexing my pc. because it also feels like im flexing my asshole a lot of the time too. but i always can feel or see that slight movement in my package. and if im hard i can see and feel it jump up. flexing the pc is the only muscle movement that can do this right?

[biggerandbetter]

DJ66, try porn... :sm15 or do PC flexes during your workout (your penis will usually be SEMI-erect in workouts).

if im hard i can see and feel it jump up. flexing the pc is the only muscle movement that can do this right?

yup, you're right. Beginners with PC work are always a little confused about whether they are doing it right. You are doing it right, but you'll need to just keep on practising, and in a couple of weeks time you'll be able to isolate your PC completely - ie. your asshole wont be squeezing anymore. :)

[CrunchyB]

I do what someone posted a while ago. I do 100 quick flexes, then 100 3 second holds, then 100 pyramid flexes (light, medium, hard flexing, then back down the same). That usually gets it pretty nice.

[bBigsomeday]

does PC flex alone help with size or is it just for ejacualtion control?

[stevedave]

do you guys do your pc flexes all at once or spread out throughout the day?

probably since im new but i find i get pretty tired pretty fast and get to a point where i cant feel if im even doing it or not. thats usually when i stop and wait awhile. and pick up where i left off. i usually can get around 80 or so at a time. is that okay..just as long as they get done throughout the day, or is it best to do them all at the same time?

[biggerandbetter]

Doesnt matter when you do them, as long as they're done its all good! I myself like to do them all at once because then I know I've done my workout for the day.

[Big Al]

Try to do it all at once if you can. You'll develop more stamina that way.

[mafuie]

can anyone tell me what other advantages of having a very strong PC muscle ie -prolong erection,becoming orgasmic???

[Big Al]

Having a fit PC will help curb premature ejaculation and also helps maintain a hard erection. Exercising the BC will also strengthen your erections and allow you to shoot your ejaculate further.

[hootowl]

the PC Flex info on PH says you need to be fully erect in order for the exercise to work. However, I am wondering if you truly need to be erect for the exercise to work. Will anything happen if you just randomly flex the PC muscle throughout the day while you are limp? Also- question on jelq....when i do jelqs, the penis skin moves forward as i milk my hand towards the head, and this begins to hurt. should this not be happening or is it all part of the jelq?

[Dazzlingdaz3]

the PC Flex info on PH says you need to be fully erect in order for the exercise to work. However, I am wondering if you truly need to be erect for the exercise to work. Will anything happen if you just randomly flex the PC muscle throughout the day while you are limp? Also- question on jelq....when i do jelqs, the penis skin moves forward as i milk my hand towards the head, and this begins to hurt. should this not be happening or is it all part of the jelq?

PC flexes can be done at any time of the day whether flaccid or erect, although I personally like to do them whillst erect. As far as the jelq problem goes, try using the other hand to hold the skin back as you jelq. Also use plenty of lube (wet jelq) so that the hand slides over the skin.

Cheers
Daz

[Jareth]

the PC Flex info on PH says you need to be fully erect in order for the exercise to work. However, I am wondering if you truly need to be erect for the exercise to work. Will anything happen if you just randomly flex the PC muscle throughout the day while you are limp? Also- question on jelq....when i do jelqs, the penis skin moves forward as i milk my hand towards the head, and this begins to hurt. should this not be happening or is it all part of the jelq?
In my opinion exercising the PC muscle while erect targets the muscle better.

[didher]

I do pc flexes all day, if im at my desk or whatever. It is definitely better to do them while erect, because the muscle has more to lift? Im not sure exactly why it is but I feel that it is better exercise while erect as opposed to not erect.

[Dazzlingdaz3]

I do pc flexes all day, if im at my desk or whatever. It is definitely better to do them while erect, because the muscle has more to lift? Im not sure exactly why it is but I feel that it is better exercise while erect as opposed to not erect.

Didher and Jareth,
You both have the same observations as myself, The fact that i can SEE my dick moving with the flex, suggests that i have targeted the PC muscle correctly and also the resistance of lifting the erect dick, I believe provides a better workout.:)

Cheers
Daz

[Jareth]

Didher and Jareth,
You both have the same observations as myself, The fact that i can SEE my dick moving with the flex, suggests that i have targeted the PC muscle correctly and also the resistance of lifting the erect dick, I believe provides a better workout.:)

Cheers
Daz
Hey man, have you ever seen the Peter North video where he is on his back with a book on his dick and is doing pc flexes? Being in different positions as well will target the pc muscle better. Having an erection and laying on the back really targets it. I feel I am using my stomach, back, and ass more when just doing a simple flaccid standing pc flex.

[Dazzlingdaz3]

Hey man, have you ever seen the Peter North video where he is on his back with a book on his dick and is doing pc flexes? Being in different positions as well will target the pc muscle better. Having an erection and laying on the back really targets it. I feel I am using my stomach, back, and ass more when just doing a simple flaccid standing pc flex.

Haven't seen the video but agree with other muscles coming into play when standing / sitting. Then again, working on the abs, strengthening the back and toning up the ass is not such a bad idea LOL. More of a "4 in 1" exercise :D

Cheers
Daz

[Jareth]

Haven't seen the video but agree with other muscles coming into play when standing / sitting. Then again, working on the abs, strengthening the back and toning up the ass is not such a bad idea LOL. More of a "4 in 1" exercise :D

Cheers
Daz
LOL! Its not gonna strenthen the back, abs, and ass. Its more a strain than anything.. Wish PE was a total body workout that sure would kill two birds with one stone..

[mork21]

on the penis health site, it says to make sure you have an erection when doing the PC Flexes..... DOes that really matter. It still feels the same when I am flacid, and I can't really keep an erection when I do the PC flexes
thanks

[bBigsomeday]

since your penis weighs more with an erection it will be more effective if you do it with an erection. Also when u have an erection your penis jumps so u know for sure u are hitting the right spot. you can still do it without an erection though but in my opinion i dont feel as good of a workout when i do it that way.

[wohoo19m]

You don't HAVE to, but if you prefer doing it like that, then do it. But you can do it anywhere you want in flaccid state for convenience.

[SubStance]

I was just wondering about one thing about these exercises. Should you do them everyday or should you take a day off now and again?

[Jareth]

I was just wondering about one thing about these exercises. Should you do them everyday or should you take a day off now and again?
Should be able to find out everything you need to know by searching through these forums. To answer your question most people do a 3 day on 1off, 2 day on 1 off split.

[turtle]

Jareth look at his title. I think that he was talking about flexes not PE exercises for size. Yes, you can do pc flex work every day. You don't need to worry about rest for that, but you might want to just take a day off for your brain.
turtle

[dyablo]

I do them everyday and my penis is getting stronger and stronger

[Project_Moss]

Yes but I dont really do pc that often for one reason, it can give you a weaker erection if overdone, so I try to only do them on days I workout plus some of my routines include exercising the pc anyways.

[Jareth]

Jareth look at his title. I think that he was talking about flexes not PE exercises for size. Yes, you can do pc flex work every day. You don't need to worry about rest for that, but you might want to just take a day off for your brain.
turtle
Yeah I noticed it was about pc flexes. When I do pc flexes everyday I suffer from premature ejaculation that is why I rest from pc work as well. I have heard of people doing it everyday, but think giving the pc a rest has a greater benefit.

[turtle]

When I do pc flexes everyday I suffer from premature ejaculation that is why I rest from pc work as well. .

Thanks for sharing that info. I have never heard of anyone having that problem before. One more piece of information to file in the back of the brain.
turtle

[VitaMan]

I agree.. If you don't overexcercise but just do a moderate amount of flexes, you should build a strong pc over time..in the meantime, if you get tired, just stop and restart later onthat day or the next ; )

[julianBatess]

Hm I never realized but I had been doing flexes everyday since last week when I wasn't doing them and I came in like 2 seconds both nights, but after that I was set for longer than she could handle.

I also think ejaculating earlier in the week would have helped me control it also

[Momo]

The PC muscle is to PE, what the abs are to bodybuilding. You can (and should, ideally) work it a bit more often than the other exercises, for the 'desired results'.

Let it rest every now and then, though. Don't be in a constant state of Kegeling, or something. :rolleyes: But, just like the random & brief length stretchings, Kegels are something you should be doing regularly... to develop the muscle fibers. Recovery time is less (as is with the ligs) than the blood vessels & tissues of the corpora cavernosa.

[VitaMan]

Yes i totally agree with Momo.. oh and you don't have to ejaculate earlier in the week,.. if you want to have a huge load than yes you can, and only ejaculate like once a week, but if you just want stronger pc, than excercise it daily, but not constantly..
even on your off days there should be some sort of flexin' going on..

[JEString]

I was wondering if when other people flex their pc muscle does their penis swell? I mean my gf knows when I flex my pc muscle during sex. Actually I use to do it during sex just cause it use to swell. I also held it like that during sex. Would this be a good way to exercise the pc muscle?

I find that when i'm practising the start and stop with my GF, and when i'm about to stop, i flex my PC muscle, causing my penis to swell and i find that the sensation becomes too overwhelming to control my ejaculations. Its a great feeling but i'd like to have more control on holding my ejaculations. I do know that i have a strong PC aswell. Any tips or suggestions?:sm30

Thanks,
JE

[Want8]

SubStance,

I have been doing Kegels for about 2 years now and try to do them every chance I get. Like MOMO said, its like building your abs, its hard work and before you know it, you will notice a change. But you have to do them until you actually haave control over your ejaculations. I can now hold my load for along time.

check out my thread on this: http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?p=59292#post59292

[-Dopeman-]

I do this and it seems like i get more blood ( strech ) in my Penis when i do this, should i continue this or just not Flex my PC?

I notice When i DO PC Flex before i milk on my jelg that my tip of my dick is getting stretched ( Irritating feeling ) Because i make more blood go in before i milk up...

[Vine]

This is mostly a matter of personal preference.
If you are maintaining an adequate erection level while jelqing without kegalling, then there's no need to PC flex before each rep. It's up to you.

I usually kegal prior to each rep though, because I enjoy the added pump---plus it helps me to maintain my erection at a proper level for jelqing.

Big Vine

[case]

When you guys are doing these are you fully erect?

How much difference will it make if I am erect, or totally flacid? I figure it wouldnt make much of a difference because I am not using weights atm. Correct?

[Vine]

Right. You don't need to perform them while erect. If you do, it might help you to get a better feel for the exercise and for identifying your PC muscle (while erect a PC flex will cause your penis to 'jump'). But none of this matters a whole lot if you've already identified the muscle and are comfortable flexing it in the flaccid state.

The majority of the other guys and I do these in the flaccid state.

Hope that makes sense.
Big Vine

P.S. Welcome to the forum!

[case]

Thanks for your help.

[mabdella123]

Hey guys,

I am new to PE. I just started exercising a week ago. my problem is with PC flex basic exercise in the beginer workout routine designed by Penis Health. when I flex the muscle, my penis jumps but I can not hold for 3-5 seconds as the exercise says. any advise on how hold the flex position. I am talking about the PC flex in the Erect state.

Thanks in advance

[nando420]

i got the same deal

[turtle]

Do 6 sets a day of 50 reps and try to hold them for around 2 to 3 seconds each. Do this for a month and then move on to the PC Killer. The only purpose of erect flexes is to learn what and where the PC is. That's not completely true, but you really don't need to be erect for pc flexes.
turtle

[jeebus]

do these have any effect on length? currently i do none because it's to time consuming with my current workout. but if it has some type of relation to length by god i'll do it

[turtle]

Only in the sense that if you could get a harder erection then you would be a little larger. The PC flexes are for the ability to control your ejaculation. You don't need to add them to your workout time. Just start off doing 50 reps of flacid flexes at least 6 times during the day. This will accomplish a fair bit.
turtle

[ray0780]

I noticed that it seems more difficult to hold, and hold as tightly, a pc flex while doing anything but sitting. In other words, I have to concentrate more on the flex if standing or lying on my stomache. With this in mind, does it make sense to train the PC muscle in these other situations, or is it completely useless?

Thanks!

[turtle]

I think that the key thought is what you said about concentration. It doesn't have a different effect on the PC, you just have to pay more attention to what your doing. It's just mental conditioning not pc conditioning. Still might serve a purpose, try doing your PC work when your out taking a run. You think that's crazy, but remember your going to want to control that PC in the middle of a rather strenous activity in bed. Granted there you just tightening it not trying to do multple flexes, but there is sort of a similarity.
turtle

[Ikb]

can someone please tell me what the PC flex basic ++( or +++) is or atleast direct me on where to find instruction for doin it. I have been doing PE for a week with it. is that ok?

[Dazzlingdaz3]

can someone please tell me what the PC flex basic ++( or +++) is or atleast direct me on where to find instruction for doin it. I have been doing PE for a week with it. is that ok?


Hi mate,
If you do a search on the keyword "kegel" as a thread title, there are a number of threads on the subject.

This linkwill take yo to a brief explanation that should help you to get a handle on the exercise, dont be afraid to read other threads on the subject listed in the search results ;)

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3506&highlight=kegel

Cheers
Dazz

[Pimpson]

Hi All,
This might seem like a rather dumb question. I know most websites claim that the easiest way to identify the location of the PC muscle is to stop yourself while urinating. While I am able to do so, I still don't get a sense of where it is. I have been doing PC exercises but I have obtained virtually no results. I keep wondering if I am exercising the right muscle. If there is an easier way to identify the location, please let me know. Thank you.

Pimpson

[Dazzlingdaz3]

Hi mate,
My suggestion would be to push your finger up and under your scrotum on the "Gooch"area as you stop and start the urine flow. You should be able to feel the PC muscle contract whilst doing this. Kegels really are as simple as going through the motion of stopping and starting urination and if you can do that without wetting yourself, you are on the right track ;)

Cheers
Dazz

[jade_permenda]

I'll be honest, I didn't know Daz's term "Gooch", so I did a search, and found an old thread that might be helpful in your case, might not- but I found it interesting if nothing else! :sm29

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1265&highlight=Gooch

[Paul_Permenda]

You can also perform the 'Gooch' without urinating but instead looking for the point when the penis jumps up, this description is taken from within the Penis Health members area:

"You can locate the PC muscle in between the scrotum and the anus. It is located on what is called the pelvic floor, and is part of a network of muscles that helps ejaculatory and urinary control. To find the PC muscle lick your thumb and go put it between your anus and your scrotum until your penis jumps, this is the PC muscle."

[Dazzlingdaz3]

You can also perform the 'Gooch' without urinating but instead looking for the point when the penis jumps up, this description is taken from within the Penis Health members area:

"You can locate the PC muscle in between the scrotum and the anus. It is located on what is called the pelvic floor, and is part of a network of muscles that helps ejaculatory and urinary control. To find the PC muscle lick your thumb and go put it between your anus and your scrotum until your penis jumps, this is the PC muscle."

Hehehehehe, the area btween the anus and the scrotum (perenium) is often referred to as the "gooch" or the "fact" Some of you may may be familiar with the "fact" as the small area of skin between the vagina and the anus and if you miss it , your in the shit, and thats a fact ! ;)

I have always wondered why penis health recomends that you must "lick" your thumb to locate the muscle, I dont see that lubrication of any sort is required for this and I certainly hope they dont mean to lick your thumb after the event LOL:sm29

Cheers
Dazz

[Countdown]

I've been doing reps while driving too and at work "soft"..I can still feel a "jump" in the penis when im doing it, is this a worthless post/pre workout activity?

[Dazzlingdaz3]

Hi mate,

PC work can be done whilst flaccid ;)

Cheers
Dazz

[falcon]

Hehehehehe, the area btween the anus and the scrotum (perenium) is often referred to as the "gooch" or the "fact" Some of you may may be familiar with the "fact" as the small area of skin between the vagina and the anus and if you miss it , your in the shit, and thats a fact ! ;)

Cheers
Dazz

Dazz, in American language what you refer to is called Taint (slang for isn't). Taint pussy and Taint asshole.

Falcon

[Dazzlingdaz3]

Dazz, in American language what you refer to is called Taint (slang for isn't). Taint pussy and Taint asshole.

Falcon

Hahahahahaha, yes, I have heard of that one as well :sm29

Cheers
Dazz

[idontknow247]

penis health site said you can do the flex all throughout the day, so does that mean u dont have to warm up before doing it? just do it everytime u get an erection?

also, is it ok just ot do the long slong as i warm up in the shower? cuz after i warm up i can just start it in there cuz the warm up is similar to the long slong anywyas.

[Earendil]

You don't need an erection to do PC flexes. You're engaged in a boring conversation? Do some PC work ;)

[idontknow247]

how do u do em with out an erection?

[Dazzlingdaz3]

how do u do em with out an erection?

Exactly the same way......... The difference is that your penis will not "jump" or move whilst you do them in the flaccid state, but remember, you are exercising the PC muscle and any squeezing that you can apply whilst erect or flaccid will have the same effect ;)

Using the shower as a warm up is fine as long as it is warm enough. Exercising in the shower is fine too, just realise that you may have trouble with your grip due to your dick being wet and slippery :)

Cheers
Dazz

[Ikb]

hi
can someone help out please. I understand that PC flex(kegel?) invoves stoping flow of pee when peeing.
How do I it in the flaccid or erect state when not peeing?. I havent found a thread that describe this.

[turtle]

Get an erection and then see if you can make your erection bounce up and down. When you can do that you have found your PC. PC flexes work when your flaccid or erect, but it's easier to tell that you are flexing the correct thing when you can see the bounce.
turtle

[Paul_Permenda]

Check out this thread for info on the Kegal:

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13178

[Dazzlingdaz3]

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[Dazzlingdaz3]

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Cheers
Dazz

[idontknow247]

can anyone describe what this feels like to do? Cuz i wanted to start doing it when my penis is flacid but am having a hard time figuring out if im flexing the muscle cuz i dont really know what and where i should be feeling it flex.

[gstandup]

its the muscle between the penis and anus..

basically if u went to the bathroom and ever wanted to stop your peeing.. you just used your pc muscle.. you should feel movement within that area when tensing the pc muscle

[Dazzlingdaz3]

can anyone describe what this feels like to do? Cuz i wanted to start doing it when my penis is flacid but am having a hard time figuring out if im flexing the muscle cuz i dont really know what and where i should be feeling it flex.

Please post your questions in a relevant thread instead of starting a new one, this helps to keep the information continuous for other users and also keeps our forum clean. This thread has been merged with the relevant thread!

Cheers
Dazz

[gregorz4]

has the 500 pc flexes helped?
how long have you been doing them?
just curious to see if i should try this exercise..

[Dazzlingdaz3]

has the 500 pc flexes helped?
how long have you been doing them?
just curious to see if i should try this exercise..

Hi mate,
My PC muscle is quite well developed, I can last as long as I want and I can squirt like Peter North on most occaisions. I now only do approx 100 on a daily basis, just to maintain the strength, although in my early days of PE I was doing from 300 - 500 per day. You should also work this muscle so that you are able to pump your new bigger dick to its full potential ;)

Cheers
Dazz

[Loadman 1]

what happens if you stop working this muscle? is this a lifetime thing? could this cause erectile DF?? I am just curious, seems no matter how much I work it I cant shoot worth a damn (only on rare occassions)

[Dazzlingdaz3]

Hey Loadman,
I would suggest that doing 100 flexes a day for the rest of your life will only serve to maintain penile fitnes, just as it is wise to continue a light PE maintenance program after you have reached your goal. Unlike the penis tissues and tunica that we are exercising like a muscle and therefore need recovery days to rebuild bigger, the PC muscle, we only work to make stronger. Theoretically, this means we would not need rest days, but overtraining can occur and minor and very temporary ED can result. When and if this occurs, just give yourself a couple days of rest and it will soon be back to normal.

Cheers
Dazz

[gregorz4]

On average, how long does it take to see results, I started off by doing just maybe 100 or so PC flexes and now im starting to do the PC killer exercises, I dont do the whole thing but i can get maybe 3/4 of the program complete, and I do it twice a day, 3 times if i remember. On other days i do it just once, just as a rest period. I have already noticed that my penis is getting alot harder, and im shooting where im not supposed to shoot:)...but im wondering about the stamina, I had a problem with just ejaculating within a few second sometimes even just one, does doing the PC flexes make me last longer or does it just allow me to Flex my PC muscle when im about to ejaculate and stop the flow?

[Dazzlingdaz3]

allow me to Flex my PC muscle when im about to ejaculate and stop the flow?


Exactly mate,
Unfortunately, the PC flex wont overide sensitivity, so orgasming quickly is a result of that. If you can control your ejaculation, but still experience the "living on the edge" as i call it, then you can prolong the session as long as you like. Generally, once youve shot your juice, youve cooked the goose" :p

Cheers
Dazz

[MickyHA]

I don't wan't to read through all 13 pages of this thread to find out if this has been discussed or tried, but what about doing the PC flexes while you are hanging? It seems to me that it would be sorta like lifting weights. Don't you think that it would help you break down and build up the PC muscle tissue better that way? And in the end, making it stronger like lifting weights for a specific muscle.

[Dazzlingdaz3]

I don't wan't to read through all 13 pages of this thread to find out if this has been discussed or tried, but what about doing the PC flexes while you are hanging? It seems to me that it would be sorta like lifting weights. Don't you think that it would help you break down and build up the PC muscle tissue better that way? And in the end, making it stronger like lifting weights for a specific muscle.

Hi mate,
I find it sad that you have not read this thread in its entirety to educate yourself a little more. There might be answers to other future questions here ;)

The short answer to your question is that yes, these would be the equivalent of the weighted PC flex, where a towel is draped over the erect penis and PC flexes conducted against the weigh of the towel. :)
BTW, one is not trying to "breakdown and rebuild" the muscle to make bigger, rather strengthen it .

Cheers
Dazz

[theguy1990]

I think that I have a PC muscle that is a little stronger than the average joe, just because I've been doing the 'stop and go' technique when I 'pound it' ever since I can remeber, plus and I can stop, piss, stop, piss, as much as I like. At any rate, my question is about the repetitions and sets for this PC work out. Turttle pointed out that when you start out you should do 6 reps of 50 through out the day, so does he mean I should do 50 during, for example, at breakfast, then 50 at lunch, etc? And one last thing, all over this site people have said to hold the PC muscle from 2-3 or 3-5 and even for a minute. I feel that when it comes to the PC muscle exercises, it's not very structured on what to do and there are many variations. I've been going through the whole forums and I also know that we should do what seems right for us, but I'm a newbie and I don't even know right from wrong when it comes to this stuff as I have never put my dick to 'exercise' before.

[turtle]

When I said do 50 reps at different times, that is exactly what I meant. Don't get too anal and attache specific times to it. Riding to work, bored in the morning, lunch time, bored in the afternoon, on the ride home, bored in the evening. Basically, get in a set of 50 when you can. When you are comfortable with this move on to the PC Killer.
turtle

[theguy1990]

cool, thanks.