Megathread - Masturbation

[98accord]

i had an idea and was curious if it will work. what if you try masturbating until u feel like you are about to cum, then stop right b4 u cum. then continue masturbating again. when u fell the sensation to cum again stop .... and do this a few more times. then afterwards proceed to finish.. do this a few times a week...

do u think this will help when it comes to having sex to keep from cumming too soon.??


just a thought

[gmanEA]

98record,

Ive heard about techiniques similar to this before. From what I have heard ideas similar to this are used to help a man 'last longer' so to speak when having sex with a woman, the idea is if you bring yourself close to orgasm and stop, then repeat many times then over a period of time you should be able to last longer and perhaps have multiple orgasms in a shorter period of time.

The sensation of the orgasm is also said to be heightened from what I have heard. I have heard of people doing this for several hours on end in one session.

[CorbinC]

If someone were to spend an hour a day masturbating, (spread out in 4 different sessions), could this be a mild substitute for penis exercises? I mean, does it do anything??

[gmanEA]

Hehe, no. It would not benefit you in terms of PE. You would be getting health blood circulation though ! If you do a real lot of squeezing in the middle of masturbation, there could be some slight benefit, but I wouldnt back it. :P

[CorbinC]

doh! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":(">

[Sam]

If that was the case and did work I would be about 15 inches long now

[Unregistered]

I masturbate after excercise... i dont ejaculate just masturbate i was wondering if this will effect my gains?

[Daz MN Support]

Hi Unregistered , please take the time to signup.

You say you masturbate but DO NOT ejaculate? I do not see this being a problem, on other forums some men have even suggested this could be a benefit, let me see if I can find some info on that for you.

[gmanea]

you will hear a lot of opinions that differ on this topic. My opinion that if you masturbate afterwards without going all the way it is good for your pe exercises as you increase blood flow afterwards to your penis area which can give it some fresh oxygen and that can be good for your cells to regenerate and create new tissue.

If you masturbate afterwards and ejaculate, your body is releasing a new signal that your work is done and blood flow for the next few hours is not very high as technically your penis doesnt need to perform its natural function (of course besides going to the toilet).

You will notice yourself that in the hours following a PE workout, your penis will feel much more pumped and healthy if you did not ejaculate compared to how it would feel if you did. I believe you have much better blood flow at this stage to make your exercises much more effective.

[mz23]

There seems to be a lot of different advise on how (flaccid/erect/reps per day) and when (during pe workout, everyday, even on days when not doing the other pe exercises, etc) to do the pc exercises. What would be recommended for the beginning stages of the program?

Also, I was wondering what the consensus on masturbation during the program is. It sounds as though one should avoid ejaculation for some time after doing the exercises, but that regular masturbation is generally good for blood flow (and prostate, etc), which will be useful overall.

I had also read that the free consultation helps you to formulate a personal program, but it seems that the free consultation page is directed to those that have already been on the program for some time. Does this mean the member is supposed to just pick from the sugested workouts to begin with? If so -- and if time is not an issue -- what is the recommeneded schedule?

Thanks.

[Artist]

Hello

Check out this post for info on PC exercises & routines.

........PC exercises, flexes & Male Multiple Orgasms.......

If you go to that post you will get a good starting point for why
and how to start.

I will be expanding on this info shortly and give everybody
the complete course.

In PE exercises the process is mechanical, in that I mean you are trying to enlarge your penis by doing repetitive actions by hand or with mechanical devices.

In PC exercises you are going for FEELING and CONTROL of your penis which is defined only by you. The ultimate goal in PC exercises is not for enlargement but for a control of ejaculation & orgasm which are two distinct processes which can be separated.

As you will see in future posts I will be explaining how to know every level of AROUSAL and how to control & know them.

For example: you will be grading your AROUSAL or erection from
1 to 10 with 1 being flacid and 10 being ejaculation & orgasm.

The more experienced you become you will know when you reach a 8.5 level or any level, and know how to stop there or continue.
That's control.

Start slow and feel each flex. You are going for quality not quantity. Ask questions. You are not going for an erection. You are just using and controling your PC muscle which controls urine as well as ejaculation. You can exercise anytime, standing on line,
in the office, watching TV, nobody will know.

Go at your own pace, you don't need to do a million.

Artist

[Unregistered]

I've been on the program for a couple of days now. I'm having difficulty in getting rid of an erection. Is it OK to masturbate before I begin? Or should I just try to think of something else until it goes away?

[Mobydique]

This is often a problem at first. Try flexing your PC muscle as hard as you can to help get rid of your erection. Also, try to relax, and think of something constructive, like, say, envision blood going into your penis. Don't think about sex. You'll find that it gets easier to maintain a partial erection after you've been doing the program for a while.

[ChuckDogg]

Ive read several places that you shouldnt masturbate before doing PE exercises, your penile connective tissues retract and your testosterone levels drop, wait a few hours before and after your exercises to masturbate

[Fleabag]

I would have to agree, if you masturbate right after your PE, you can basically count that session a waste, wait a few hours before having some "me" time. And trying to do your PE right after your "me" time is well, really hard and wasteful.

[Stephersen]

If you ejaculate right before you begin, you won't gain as much. That has been my experience anyway. Try to wait at least four hours after ejaculating before you exercise, because otherwise you will be putting your penis under too much stress! Also, wait four hours after exercising before you ejaculate. You can do it!

[zandorian]

Is it ok?

[guyee]

Not to sound pissed... but everyone asks this question... and if you were to look about like 4 posts down... you would find an answer......

The short answer is no, masturbation is not ok before, after or during the excercises.

Do not masturbate to orgasm 2-3 hours before the excercises or 2-3 hours after. Because if you do, your bloodflow decreases and the hormones that are generated by your body in a state of arousal also subside, this generally impacts your gains in a less than positive way.

[zandorian]

How badly does masturbation before/after PEing screw up the exercises

[tigerbartlett]

Personally, on a PE day, I try not to masturbate. Let me relate to you my experience. When I do a session of PE, afterwards, my penis is heavy, thick, and engorged with blood. The effects of the workout last for upwards of 10 hours, in my case, and oftentimes into the next day, which is ideal, although somewhat diminished.

If I were to masturbate, and we all know the effects of it, I feel that I would just waste all the hard work that I put into the session, not to mention the time that I took to do it, which then could have been better used!

This reflects my personal opinion on the subject.

Some people do and some people don't. The general consensus is to try not to masturbate, save it for your off days! Or, wait a few hours afterwards to masturbate or have sex.

It all really is up to you, the choice is yours, but if you were to ask me, and based upon my preference, I would say no, and some people will disagree with what I say, and that's ok, too!

[Edward]

Hi zandorian

Your question has an answer that can be found throughout this forum, but I have made it easier for you by posting it in the 'PE Newbies FAQ (mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1062)' at the beginning of this forum. Check-it-out. ;)

Just click on the link above to get you there.

[zandorian]

No no no

I know it is bad and not recommended. I want to know HOW bad it is.

[Daz MN Support]

PE is not a science. We have no idea HOW bad it is, its just to be avoided.

[yz125racr10]

Is it true that masturbating within 1 hour of working out can spoil results?

[tigerbartlett]

There are several proponents that are of the opinion that masturbating after a workout is detrimental to the success of your completed session. And then there are the advocates that are saying that there is no negative affects on the penis when masturbating after a session.

I don't think there has been a clinical study or medical study that looks at the effects of masturbation and whether it has negative or positive implications on the penis' ability to gain after a PE session.

We do know for a fact how the penis reacts after masturbating, which is it tends to revert into a retractile period, where the penis undergoes retraction in size and the testosterone level recedes.

After a workout, your penis will be in state of being engorged with blood and will hang heavy. If you masturbate after a PE session, you will diminish this effect.

The general consensus is not to masturbate after a PE session, at least not for awhile, about a couple of hours or so. However, the choice is yours to make. There are some people who will not adversely affect their capability of gaining when masturbating after a PE session, and then there are people who will say that it wipes out the session, and ultimately your hard work and time is wasted.

There are lots of opinions on this subject. Read the PE Newbie's FAQ for an overview about masturbating and PE.

[yz125racr10]

where's the FAQ section

[tigerbartlett]

It is the second thread from the top of the Thread List and is called ***PE Newbies FAQ***, by Edward.

[lifeiserotic]

Hi,


I have started PE about a week back and I see my pennis is getting into a good lovely shape.


But I am very badly addicted to masturbation. I cannot sleep without masturbating. I have read somebody telling that you should not masturbate while doing PE. Is it completely prohibited or have some leavage. I need advice how often can I do masturbation while doing PE.

thanks,
Life

[dwduck]

It is advised not to masturbate 5 hours prior to or after your PE workout. It decreases your testosterone and more than likely slows any gains that you may be incurring. Advice - Masturbate way in advance or way after your PE session. Also, on your days off feel free to go crazy. Hope this helps.

[lifeiserotic]

Thanks for the advice, any other advice would be appreciated.

[hardin]

I think it depends on the person, personally I get laid every night, very seldom do I go a day without gettin some at least once a day and have been seeing the gains so has my oldlady. Just make sure that you do you routine at least 3-5 hours before youhave sex or masterbate and you should be ok. the reason being is that you want to keep you penis in that pumped up state for as long as possible. playin with it aint bad, as a matter of fact it's a good time to do some pc exercises, foreskin restoration,etc.
hope this helps.

[lifeiserotic]

Thats more relaxing advice.

[Wazzup]

I'm not sure, but I think the problem is about ejaculation, not necessary masturbation or even orgasm.

Why not try to orgasm without ejaculation. Call it tentra if you wish. I'm also a bit addicted to masturbation and sex and I have a big problem with skipping a day of two (or even 5 hours sometimes). So I actually masturbate or have sex until non-ejaculating orgasm.

Orgasm and ejacultation are two separate things. It's the ejaculation that makes your testosterone go through the floor.

I would suggest it is even a good idea to orgasm after your PE. I do and after that my penis is so hard that I could nail nails with it. So more blood in it, more growth. Logic.

Try it! Hope this helps you keep your motivation.

Wazzup

[lifeiserotic]

That is some news to me, how do we separate orgasm and ejaculation. It would be interesting to know and learn.

[Wazzup]

I'm not sure if I can explain how I actually separate orgasm from ejaculation, but I'll try.

First of all, remember when you were a kid (9-10yo) and you were discovering your body. Personnaly I started masturbating at around 7-8. Well you know you were playing with you penis, after a while you would feel so fuzzy-funny thing in your belly. Well that's an orgasm, isn't it? So your body was actually able to orgasm, but not to ejaculate. When puberty came, you experienced ejaculation just after orgasm. The result from a bad conditionning is that men associate ejaculation with orgasm. But actually they are separate things.

I don't really know how I do it. I actually just decide and say to myself "okay this one's not the final one, just orgasm do not ejaculate" and it works. I know it sounds weird, but I swear. You need a lot of practice tough if it is not natural for you.

I would suggest you develop a very strong PC muscle by doing kegels. (Kegels are described on PH website) It's the biological aspect of what I try to explain to you.

Then I would suggest you practice. Sit on a confortable chair, get your pants down, go to your favorite porno site, find a good looking chick and do what you're intended to do!! Then we you know you're at the very edge of orgasm, just slow down (or stop completly) and imagine the energy coming from your dick going into your whole body and your brain. It sounds like crap, but it works. Try that a couple of times and then you can go a little further, and further and further until you orgasm but do not ejaculate. You will actually probably ejaculate, but it will be pre-ejaculation liquid. Translucide and not as thick as sperm.

Try it, friend, and trust me you will enjoy sex a lot more after that! But there's a little problem about this technique. Sometimes I decide that I want to ejaculate, but I keep orgasming again and again. :D

Then when you think you're confortable with it, you can try it with your wife/GF. The look on the face of women when they see you orgasm again and again but you always stay hard... it is really worth it!!

Well I hope this helps you. Good luck!

[Edward]

Their is another well written article that was posted during one of our many competitions in the forum by Artist, entitled 'THE PC MUCLE AND MALE MULTIPLE ORGASMS. Just click on the following link to get you to the thread entitle 'Competition TIME!!! MUST READ! (www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=845)

When you get their click on page 3 for part 1 of his article and page 4 for part 2.

I think you'll find this most interesting. After you've read it all, let me know if this helps your situation improve.

Good luck my friend.
:cool:

[Wazzup]

Wow that's one good article!!

Much more details than my little post! ;)

[steven]

i use to masturbate everyday, then i found out that to much can cause weak erections so i stopped for awhile,, now i have hard erections.. :D

[Wazzup]

I masturbate everyday... sometimes a couple of times a day. And my erections are hard as hell!! Thanks to my PJ!

The only problem is that I don't blow huge loads... so sometimes I will torture myself to wait 2-3 days... and damn that's worth it!

[steven]

yeah it is worth it..i hate waiting 2-3 days..but the sperm has to build back up at some point

[Wazzup]

Yeah and some girls really like being drown in it!

Well not all girls... :D

[steven]

yup.. they like the taste if you eat right :)

[Wazzup]

I've been told that apples make it taste great! So I always eat apples!

[Daz MN Support]

www.volumepills.com

[steven]

i drink nasty pineapple juice..but its worth it..its faster

[Wazzup]

Thanks Daz, i'll look this.

Steven pineapple juice is the worst nightmare!!! I prefer apples!

Hey it says you're a member since dec 2002, have you made gains?

[steven]

yup 2inch in length..and 1inch girth

[lifeiserotic]

Hi Guys,

I am so encouraged by this forum, you guys have so much advice to give and thats pretty coool. Thanks very much for the advices and try to follow through.

thanks
Life

[Wazzup]

Good luck Life!

If you need advise, just ask! There's a lot of guys here that know a damn lot about PE.

[Xolotl]

The method Wazzup describes does work but it is tricky as hell. The other methond that requires a highly developed PC muscle is easier to do. But it will take time to get a PC muscle strong enougth to hold back your load.

Another simpler method that anyne can do right now is to press firmly on your Perinum point just before you ejaculate. This is the place just behind your scrotum but in front of the anus.

Press hard here and you are basically doing with your hand what your PC muscle would do if it were strong enougth. Press hard.

The disadvantage to this method though is that although it saves you from all that pesky cleanup after mastrubating. It's not too practical to do when you are with somone. It's a bit harder to reach and just inconvient.

Give it a try though, first time I did it I was was certain I had blown a huge wad all over the place only to find that everything was totally dry.

-X

[lifeiserotic]

I am happy that I am getting somany advices. PE forum rocks!

[davidrobles3]

i masturbate every day, that affect my development if i do excercises every day?

[pearce6]

firstly you should not do exercises every day, 3 days on and 1 day off IMO .

The topic of masturbation is one which is ongoing in the PE community it is generally considered ok as long as you do not do it 1-2 hours before your workout... thats the on going theory at the moment.

[roberto_na]

Thanks for the anwers of my yesterday´s question. Here is another one: I usually practice some kind of sex 4 times a week, it could be sex, or masturbation. I was wandering if this slows down the process of gainnig results in the program

Thanks from Costa Rica.

[toasted_bread]

in one of the sticky threads up there it states:
"The short answer is no, masturbation is not ok before, after or during the excercises.
Do not masturbate to orgasm 2-3 hours before the excercises or 2-3 hours after. Because if you do, your bloodflow decreases and the hormones that are generated by your body in a state of arousal also subside, this generally impacts your gains in a less than positive way."

i guess save it for days off

[ebon00]

Originally posted by toasted_bread
"The short answer is no, masturbation is not ok before, after or during the excercises.
Do not masturbate to orgasm 2-3 hours before the excercises or 2-3 hours after. Because if you do, your bloodflow decreases and the hormones that are generated by your body in a state of arousal also subside, this generally impacts your gains in a less than positive way."

This needs to be altered. The word "masturbation" is clearly in error here. Hell, you need to masturbate during your routine to keep a halfway decent erection for your jelqs. If you do any trapping work it's essential. The correct term, although I don't necessarily agree with the statement as a whole, is "ejaculation is not ok..." It's ejaculation that will cause a slight stagnation in bloodflow and a drop in serum testosterone.

[Edward]

ebon is correct in what he says regarding terminology. However, most people assume that masturbation refers to the excitation of one's own genital organs, usually to orgasm.

[cyclops1978]

I'd have to agree with Edward, it seems the term Masterbation now refers to the act of actual masterbation and the ejaculation you get at the finish.

The warmups during the exercises to get erect could always be referred to as stimulation rather than masturbation, a bit less confusing that way.

[hwyman]

Hi everyone!

I just became a member this last week. I've been reading through various threads, looking at the examples, and other homework assignments. I have to say that this forum is absolutely phenomenal! The opportunity to share experiences, pool knowledge, and provide encouragement is one that I hope everyone is taking advantage of.

With that in mind, I'm hoping some members are willing to share some insight. I was researching the topic of masturbation (i.e. to completion) on the board today with great interest. Being a daily practitioner (ok...perhaps more than once a day), I was quite interested to discover that this MAY have a detrimental effect of PE. This effect seems to be mostly related to a reduction in blood flow to the penis following ejaculation (which seems to make sense), although there seems to be some speculation that a reduction in testosterone levels may also be a contributor. Testosterone is what has me intrigued.

If a reduction in testosterone levels is detrimental to PE, does the opposite hold true? In other words, is an elevated level of testosterone beneficial to PE? Many ingredients in popular PE pills claim to enhances libido although I'm not familiar with the mechanisms involved. Is increased testosterone production a benefit of these pills? What of the other means of increasing one's testosterone levels such as through regular exercise such as weight lifting or running?

I'll share a quick story. I'm currently training for a marathon, so I run about four times a week as part of my training. I've noticed that after my shorter, faster runs that I become quite horny immediately after completion. I'm a attributing this to a spike in testosterone levels brought on from the physical exertion. Two weeks ago, I was chatting with a female friend when we got on the topic. She mentioned that her former BF would get extremely horny after his morning run, so she would wait for him in bed for him to finish his run. She would then let him take her right then and there while still hot and sweaty from the run. She claims it was some the best sex she had! That was some hot shit she told me! *sigh* Sadly, she's just a friend.... :(

Anyway, has anyone noticed any improved results while they were physically active as opposed to when they were not? I also have to wonder whether physical exertion diverts blood away from the penis and thus harming PE. Should one wait several hours before or after physical exertion before practicing PE? Any other ideas on the subject?

Thanks!

Hwyman

[ebon00]

If you had dug a little deeper into the threads on this board you'd have found out thatsome of the ingredients in popular pills are testosterone boosters. I also detail the results of a study that used topical applications of androgens to reverese microphallus.

Intense physical activity, like a weight workout or running sprints, increases the indegonous production of testosterone and growth hormone so that probably accounts for any increase in libido.

As for pros and cons of being physically active, I can only think of pros. I doubt whether the increased circulation of blood anf a more efficient cardiovascular system would detract from the efforts of PE. If anything you'll tend to lower such things as cholesterol which is definitely detrimental to erection quality. But, I haven't tried myself because I've always been physically active.

[Ajedrecista]

Is it better not to masturbate at all to see better gains?

[wohoo19m]

I remember reading masturbation is actually healthy . I think it was in one of ebon's posts . So why not just masturbate less often ?? like 2 times a week or something .

[ebon00]

Regular ejaculation helps keep your prostate in good shape so I don't really like the "no ejaculating to increase gains" thinking. I can see where the increased testosterone from arousal would not drop as sharply when not ejaculating but whether that will have any effect at all on PE gains is highly debatable.

[munks]

is it seriously bad too do it if you are doing PE?

[K_9]

The rule of thumb is not to do it 2-3 hours before or after workout because it greatly descreases testosterone levels... which are very beneficial to gains... in anything including weight lifting.

I think masturbation is fine as long as u dont go overboard... 2-3 days a week max

Over masturbationg has been proven to result in lowered sex drive and decreased hardness in erection... although i think that is more liek 7-10 times a week or something...not to mention penis pills would also help to combat this

[ebon00]

No, masturbation isn't bad for you. :D There is some theoretical points behind holding off orgasm as testosterone levels tend to drop after ejeculation. I haven't seen any real anecdotal evidence where it was obvious that the lack of masturbation caused greater gains. I ejaculated almost daily when I first got into PE and my gains didn't suffer a bit.

When doing PE you tend to build up arousal levels and I would say that trying to avoid ejaculation for any length of time (say, anywhere beyond 5 days) is a serious mistake. That would cause tension buildup that isn't good for anyone. Regular ejaculations are recommended for a healthy prostate so make sure you blow your wad at least every 2-3 days.

[joe222_BMkal]

Ebon is correct, can you tell us what's your age ?

Though I believe that masterbation doesn't do you any harm physically, but masterbation will spoil your sexuality in the way
you are going older. You must learn to enjoy the soft, moist, warm environment of a vaginal or oral cavity rather than the
relatively rough, dry, cold atmosphere of your hand. At the end, you are missing something special in your beautiful sex life.:)

[calc2000]

Important news from the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3072021.stm

[Shafty]

Damn!
I better start jacking off more! :D

[calc2000]

A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do!

[K_9]

thats an awesome study


my grandpa had prostate cancer and i hear it skips a generation so maybe i better start beating it more often

[Edward]

I got the situation in hand since 1970. :D

[GrimmReefer]

Man, I've been slapping myself around since I was 6.

[joe222_BMkal]

Pardon me,Pal. I don't mean to disencourage you, you're flushing out the blood, don't forget flushing in the energy. How can you run a car without fuel. Bearing in mind, you're in doing PE. See 'This is a plausible theory' by Dr Chris Hily, Prostate Cancer Charity.:)

[Shafty]

Does anybody know whether or not half-way masturbation (no orgasm, just playing around with it) has any adverse effects on PEing? I've heard somewhere that it might actually be beneficial to PE by increasing your testosterone levels for a short period, at least if you're watching porn, and also by improving the bloodflow.

Just thought I'd ask, because I do it almost every time during my PE sessions, right before the hot wrap and right after my stretching exercises.

[ngt2000]

it seems to me that masturbation without ejacualation is fine...besides...masturbation is often needed to get back a erection to do certain excercises

[K_9]

yeah seems like a good theory i actually come very close to orgasm just from the exercises sometime because i try to get hard and invision hot girls in between...

the only adverse affect ive ever had is when im brought extremely close and have gotten wierd pains in my stomach and balls.... blue balls i think

[matooa2]

Is it alright to jerk off (masturbate) right before, or during, or right after doing the PE exercises?? Will it interfere in any way of the gains, or is it totally irelevant? Thanks.

[Edward]

:) Greetings matooa2 - Welcome to the Mens-Network Forum.

You've come to the right place to ask your questions, express your opinions, and even offer your fellow members some good advice from your personal experiences.

Your question is ask often asked here in the forum...and that is why I have given it a special place for all newbiers to read. You will find the answer in the ***PE Newbies FAQ*** (http://mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=1062) at the beginning of this forum or just simply click on the link above to get you there.

If you would like more info on the topic from our other members, simply go to the 'search box' at the beginning of this forum and type in the keyword: Masturbation...This will take you to all threads that contain the word.

So, kick back and relax, my friend, as you take some time-out to travel through this forum.

Remember: We have lots of members with lots of support.

It's a great place to be.
;)

[K_9]

yeah dont masturbate for like 2-3 hours before or after a wokrout due to ejaculation dropping ur testosterone levels... possibly hindering ur gains..

masturbation is good though as there has been a post with a link to an article that shows masturbating cleans out carcinogens from ur prostate making u less likely to develop prostate cancer..

id say 2-5 days of masturbation a week is a good thing

[cyclops1978]

I personally don't know how you could complete a serious of exercsises, especially with any real length without doing some masterbation to keep him up and ready for the various exercises.

[matooa2]

I am feeling very frustrated as I have a problem controlling how EASILY I can gain erections, this is bad for me when I do the exercises that require me to be limp. I thought that masturbating before the exercises would help me and it did but I then found out that I couldnt do that for 2-3 hours before the exercise. The warm cloth method makes me hard just at that....what am I suppose to do? Is there an hope? Or should I just get a refund as I have no chance because of my easy erections?? Please help guys, thanks so much.



This posting has been merged to the appropriate thread it belongs in :)
Please keep all related topics to the same thread...Your help is most appreciated as this keeps our community at the Mens-Network Forum clean and organized. ;)

[Melki77]

What about masturbating or sexbefore or after PE? Should I wait before I I performa any of these?

[Edward]

:) Greetings Melki77 - Welcome to the Mens-Network Forum.

Your answer can be found in a sticky thread at the beginning of this forum entitled ***PE Newbies FAQ*** (http://mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1062)

Just click on the link above to get you there...then read the thread as you scroll to find your answer.
:cool:

[K_9]

The rule of thumb is not to orgasm 2-4 hours before or after PEing due to the fact that it lowers HGH levels and may hinder gains.

[goin4length]

i have heard that this is just an old mith and the only reason not to ejaculate before pe'ing is that it can make it hard to get an erection thus making some girth work nearly impossible to perform and ive heard from quite a few that they like to get off before stretches bc it helps them keep from getting erections which make a stretch session more time consuming.

[Unregistered]

WHat are some good masturbation techniques you guys triy

[Shafty]

Well, one technique that is popular with the ladies also works for us guys: the shower head massage. If you have enough water pressure in your shower it feels just like getting a blowjob! :D

[ClapperJohn]

You will find that a piece of silk rapped around your dick, works wonders, especially if you rub the top of prick with it.

CJ

[GiantScale]

Iv enjoyed the Road Warrior Whacker. Its less than $10 and lasts allot longer than the $50+ masturbaters.

Then again. You cant beat the real thing

:p

[GiantScale]

Iv heard this said quite a few times. I hope there is no truth behind it. But I have noticed less cum as I grow older.

I cant get to sleep with out ejeculation.

[Dade_murphy14]

I am a newcomer to this website and I was wondering when it would be best to have sex or masturbate....before the exercises, after exercises or a few hours after exercising or a few hours before???????? :confused:

[falcon]

Masturbation affects the testosterone levels in your body. It's better to not masturbate within 2 or 3 hours of PE.

[Rob]

I've only recently started with a program, and can't resist ejaculating after exercise. Is this good, bad or does it make no difference to the effect of the exercises?

Any other advice for a beginner?

Rob.

[falcon]

If you want to be a purist then don't masturbate after PE. Wait a couple of hours before or after doing PE.
Masturbating will lower your Testostrone levels which are needed for growth.

[mowinman]

3 hours minimum before or after is the general concensis. Doing so before that time could lower Testosterone and HGH hormones. It is also a theory, some say it doesn't hurt the levels either. No one has done a study on this and probably won't.

[mowinman]

Welcome to the forum Dade_murphy14, wait for th 3 hours as falcon said in his post. Testosterone and HGH levels may be effected by mastrubation. What is your workout routine?

[Daz MN Support]

search forum and read newbie faq :)

[mikenmike0001]

yeah i just reset myself yesterday, after a week and a half of pe'ing......damn....i had a huge load, a lot more than i anticipated, which kinda left a mess on some of my clothes and a little bit on the rug.....hm....... once you get those stains on your shirt, is there any way of reviing it? or do you just throw it away?

[falcon]

Shout for clothes works wonders for getting out baby gel and cum stains.

[Bandit13]

Masturbating will lower your Testostrone levels which are needed for growth

Each day I hear this... stupid "Doctor's Recommended"... "fact"... So I don't mention thousands of names...

What normal Man ejaculates? Sperm, of course, but it is only 1%, the rest is just water... Do we ejaculate Testostrone? of course YES, but it's CONCENTRATION in the product of ejaculation is THE SAME AS IN BODY. Concentration is the same as in your blood.

Do you know exactly that Testosteron is produced by testicles only? Where have you read this? It is not true!!!

Try to live without sex, masturbation, ... Sure, after few days you will have this "product" right after a pee, or even during excercises, without even any erection!!!

P.S.
===================
I do not masturbate before, or after, excercises, and reasons are different from "common advice - testosteron level":

1. Before. I do not do it, I do not have time, and I do not want to rest before excercises

2. After. I do not do it at least 1.5-2 hours after workout, because I wear Warm Pants, and I want to maintain this warm for faster restoration and growth!!!

(NOT because of Testosteron levels!)

[falcon]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Bexman]

Hey Mikenmike0001,
getting protein stain out of your clothes is not a problem anymore!

SEE!
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/masculout.wmv

:D

Greetings,
Bexman

[Supra]

After orgasm the hormone levels and blood floow and cAMP go to almost nothing. Do not do it right after PE.

Supra

[Bandit13]

I can have the same strong erection after 5-10 minutes after orgazm.

And, blood vessels, muscles, everything gets weakened after orgasm - it means more blood flow.

"Exactly to contra" :cool:

[Bandit13]

To increase Testosteron level in your blood, try to use this old technics (unfortunately unknown on this Forum!!!)

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Squeeze your testicles 30-40 times right before doing your PE. Depends on your age, if you are 40 - do it 40 times.
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This excercise is also good for a sex, if you have problems with ejaculation, do it before sex.

[Supra]

What does it do exactly?

[Bandit13]

Hello Supra,

I don't know exactly what it does, "Squeeze Testicles", I read this advice probably 20 years ago, it was adviced to do it before sex for higher sperm level.

[Supra]

So I just squeeze them?

[Bandit13]

Yes, just squeeze testicles 30-40 times before having sex. I do it! Also, I do some Jelqing before sex, to reach bigger head of a penis (and better feelings during a sex) - it helps to ejaculate second time! Using this technics I can ejaculate right after 20-30 minutes after first orgazm, I am 39.

[Doubleheaded]

im not sure, but thismay relate to an excersize i heard of prolonging your ejaculation, by simply pulling downwards lightly on your balls during sex, and it supposidly keeps you going for that bit longer. never tried it though..

[mowinman]

Originally posted by Doubleheaded
im not sure, but thismay relate to an excersize i heard of prolonging your ejaculation, by simply pulling downwards lightly on your balls during sex, and it supposidly keeps you going for that bit longer. never tried it though.. Could it be edging you are referring to. As far as squeezing, I could see that being of some benefit, would help stimulate production too.

[Doubleheaded]

it would most probably come under edging i guess, but it isnt the pc technique talked about here. infact whilst im on the subject, before i discovered about the pc muscle training, i knew of a technique similar to it. basically (it was practiced by chinese monks :eek: those handsome devils) but instead of training the pc muscle, they would reach behind and add firm pressure to it, closing the gap, which is basically the same except a little more out of the way. but you never know, it may come in handy.

[gubi]

I began about a month ago. Every time i'm finished with the jelq, I feel the need to masturbate. Many times I have. I have heard, however, that doing so is not good?

With these exercises, how often can I masturbate?

[mikenmike0001]

well, it's suggested that you wait 3 to 4 hours after or before doing pe's....i started off having bladder pain becuase i seemed to let myself build up a lot of sperm from inside wihtout equaculating and releasing it, so i try to shoot out my load like once a week.....but yeah.....i dont' know....when you build up all that sperm(to the point where you start having precum out of your hold) and you don't release it, where does it all go?

[thebobo9]

In my case it goes back to where it came from. I don't think it should hurt you to not release, it's never hurt me, and I've had to stop many a time masturbating due to people coming close to the room I'm in. Basically, your best bet is to save it for your days off of pe. If it hurts, you may want to ask about that in the pe injuries and remedies forum, because I can almost assure you that is not normal.

Bobo

[mikenmike0001]

isn't it created from your balls? so if you start making a lot, and you don't use it, it just goes back in?, why does my bladder hurt sometimes then

[mowinman]

So that you are aware, the testes produce a minor amount od semen plus the spematazoa(sperm) that is ejected. The prostate produces the most semen. The production area and storage area of ejaculated are stored in a pouch. If it is not evacuated the body re-absorbs it, much like the testes do in the man who had a vasectomy. The bladder discomfort could be from stress placed on the urethra when stretching or jelqing. The need to mastrubate comes from young age and the stimulation of exercising, not from ejaculate buildup. Do refrain from ejaculation for at least 3 hours before and after exercising. Ejaculation lowers testosterone and HGH in the system.

[wannabigone]

Mowinman wrote:
"So that you are aware, the testes produce a minor amount od semen plus the spematazoa(sperm) that is ejected. The prostate produces the most semen. "

The prostate produces the bulk? wow does this mean kegels will produce more sperm production?

This site is great-i didnt even know there was more stuff on here -it sure is good to read all the info and experiences on here-it keeps up my motivation-excellent!

[mowinman]

Originally posted by wannabigone
Mowinman wrote:
"So that you are aware, the testes produce a minor amount od semen plus the spematazoa(sperm) that is ejected. The prostate produces the most semen. "

The prostate produces the bulk? wow does this mean kegels will produce more sperm production?

This site is great-i didnt even know there was more stuff on here -it sure is good to read all the info and experiences on here-it keeps up my motivation-excellent! Kegels help in the overall health of the prostate. It contributes to strength of ejaculation ( dribble Vs shoot), does some to stimulate more volume, gives improvement to circulation and strengthens the muscle at the same time to help in the control of premature ejaculation.

[ravespaceman]

I heard the Jelq is dangerous and can lead to internal bleeding is that true?
I heard I wont be able to masturbate before and after exercise is that
true? and if how long after each and why?

[turtle]

Originally posted by ravespaceman
I heard the Jelq is dangerous and can lead to internal bleeding is that true?

You here lots of nonsense in your life, this is another one. As with any exercise, a negative result is possible, but consider how many men on this forum, virtually everyone, jelq on a regular basis without any problems. I think that this is the best answer to your question. If it was dangerous, don't you think that you would see a few posts discussing the problem.

I heard I wont be able to masturbate before and after exercise is that
true? and if how long after each and why?

It is related to testastorone levels effecting growth, try to do a
+ or - two hour window. It really hasn't been proven, but it does make some sense.
turtle

[tabasco]

Just to add my own two cents worth,

Take time to learn how to use this forum to get a lot of information. I've been to other sites, and quite frankly, they don't give the straight and personal advice you will get here.

Jelqs have been used for a LONG time. If they were really that dangerous we wouldn't be using them. The benefits to me and my wife are outstanding--just wish I had found this site a long time ago (but am certainly glad I've got it now!).

Stay with us and let us know how we can help.

tabasco

[thebobo9]

Anybody who suffers from internal bleeding either has a physical disorder, or is jelqing way too hard. Learn your limits, start slow, you'll learn what's too much for you. You want some discomfort and soreness *as strange as that may sound* but pain is not a part of the program.

Masturbation shouldn't be done 3 hours before or after your routine at least! I try to avoid masturbation on my workout days, if you have a greater sex drive than me *which would be astounding imo* then you'll have to learn to hold off a couple hours before or after. It's not proven, but it's about as close to proven as it could be.

Bobo

[Jareth]

OK so everybody believes jelging is not dangeours i hope not i actually enjoy doing this exercise where exactly if u could get internal bleeding would it be at. How hard should i be doing my jelging should i squeeze as hard as i can or just enough to know iam moving blood to the head. I usually do it hard enough to where i feel minor discomfort in the head area is this right?

[tabasco]

Good read, Jareth,

I think you are getting the point of using common sense with the PE program. You are reading this correctly. You want to use enough pressure to get the blood flowing there, but not so much you actually damage your precious friend. Minor discomfort may be a good sign that you are making progress (the no pain, no gain philosophy), but DON'T hurt yourself.

Keep us posted, glad to have you with us.

tabasco

[turtle]

Originally posted by Jareth
OK so everybody believes jelging is not dangeours i hope not i actually enjoy doing this exercise where exactly if u could get internal bleeding would it be at. How hard should i be doing my jelging should i squeeze as hard as i can or just enough to know iam moving blood to the head. I usually do it hard enough to where i feel minor discomfort in the head area is this right?

Don't squeeze as hard as you can! You are trying to move blood so that the Corpus Cav. will be forced to expand. Minor discomfort is not a bad concept, just don't ever allow it to get to the point of pain. I've recently started doing my jelqs with a reverse OK grip. It seems that I can feel what's going on inside a little better. Does the reverse grip produce better results? I have absolutely no idea. I just like the way that it feels better. I only do dry jelqs and the reverse OK grip seems like a good change. I made the change, primarily because any change tends to renew intensity. Try it, maybe you'll like it.
turtle

[manThing]

Hi

I"ve been trying the jelq technique for about a week or so...

the slight pain experience is at the penis head where all the blood are force there...and im like forcing more blood flow to the penis head to make it engorge

am i doing the right thing?

[tabasco]

Hey ManThing,

Sounds like you got it, just don't try too hard. I aim for feeling the engorgment, but back off when I feel any pain. Keep us posted on the results.

tabasco

[newkid0000]

as the rest of the guys are saying:

if u go to the gym and overload with weights, u will tear a muscle, sprain ur back, end up with bone disease... do it in moderation, u will see positive results.

do PE: if u squeeze too hard while jelqing u can tear tissue, split blood vessels... again do it in moderation and u will see results.

as with DR Lin's actionlove.com... the guy has knowledge on these things - that i will NOT deny... but if u read it there is so much u can and can't do, things not to eat... i thought there is really no point on imprisioning yourself so just do these things in life... jelqing works i know that for sure...

goodluck

[manThing]

Hi guys,

thanks for the encouragement and advise...

Im new towards all these exercise... maybe out of eager to see results...might have exert too much force....
will keep that in mind...and keep all of you all posted of my results...

I have notice something... at the tip of my foreskin (at the penis head) there are red spots! how come??
Am i jelqing too much??

manthing

[newkid0000]

red spots are normal when u first train out... its common to get it... they will disappear in a few hours...

[Jareth]

Yeah TABASCO I think i was getting a little bit carried away when i was jelging. I was squeezing quite hard "I mean hard enough to feel a pull like i was stretching or doing a LS with lube? I think Iam gonna lighten up alout just enough to where i feel some minor expanding in the head and see blood flowing I'll c how that works THANKS

Turtle yeah i have done the reverse ok grip and it really works well, you can grab down lower on the penis and force more blood up to the head. I only do wet jelgs and when i reverse grip as I approach the head i sometimes what would be like a bending motion bend to the right when iam jelging with my right hand and bend to the left when iam jelging with the left hand. This seems to force blood to the sides of the penis and it actually seemed to help me with the underneath of my penis (I DONT KNOW IF THIS REALLY WORKS BUT THERES ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT) Also how do u do dry jelgs it hurts the left and right base of my penis it like pulls the skin. I heard these are great 4 the head id like to start just need direction.

MANTHANG I still get red spots when I get a really good workout especially when I do good in my horrizontal movement I even get them on the shaft and sometimes they take a day to dissapear, I also have noticed I get them in the same place sometimes its normal.

[turtle]

Originally posted by Jareth
Also how do u do dry jelgs it hurts the left and right base of my penis it like pulls the skin. I heard these are great 4 the head id like to start just need direction.

.

Go to the advance exercise section. There is a good description of the dry jelq listed there. If you follow the description and it still hurts then just stick with wet jelqs and don't worry about it.
turtle

[johnsmith]

I am just starting these exercises, and should you never masturbate (to completion) on the days your doing them.

[turtle]

johnsmith
The normal rule which has never been scientifically proven, is to avoid orgasim plus or minus 3 hours around your PE workout. Some people have never followed this and it doesn't seem to have hurt them. I've generally tried to follow it because it seems to make a certain amount of sense to me, but by the same token I haven't turned down the opportunity for sex if it happened in the 3 hour window. Something you kind of need to figure out how it effects you.
turtle

[mattopian]

Is it possible to gain anything from just day to day masturbation? (Provided you do it everyday)

[turtle]

Originally posted by mattopian
Is it possible to gain anything from just day to day masturbation? (Provided you do it everyday)

About the only thing that you would gain is more calm attitude toward life's everyday events. Masturbation is in no way, shape, or form, a substitute for PE.
turtle

[ebon00]

Nope. If you gained by regular masturbation I would have easily hit 13"x8" before I turned 16. ;)

[Anon]

I think a form of PE very similar to masturbation can help. "Edging" has been described many times on many forums, and is basically that - masturbate till your reach orgasm, then squeeze your PC muscle.

A while back, I was reading a saucy novel and thought I might as well enjoy it properly (know what I mean? ;)). I kept my PC flexed throughout and the day after was a good 1/8" thicker. So noticeably thicker in fact, I couldn't believe it and measured! I've since been unable to re-create such a "workout", but it was definitely a good feeling in the morning :)

[ben53031]

Hey, I was just wondering if masturbation after or befroe doing the PE exercises affects gains in any way?

[obi-wan]

Hi ben53031.
I've been told you ain't suppose to masterbate before or after because the ligaments that hold the whole thing together get tighter after you ejaculate.
I have just started PEing myself so dont take my word for it but that is what i read somewhere in here.
good luck with your odjective.

[Aldorus]

Yea I was wondering also if it would matter to masturbate shortly after wearing the penis traction device

[obi-wan]

Yeah i think it will and for the same reason. The ligs will tighten up ater you ejaculate.

[ebon00]

I don't see how the ligaments could possibly tighten up after ejaculation. What kind of mechanism would be behind that? Now, the hormonal environment in the body (including free testosterone) will change after ejaculation and that's usually the reason that people suggest to hold off on ejaculating. (This is the reason why some experience shhrinkage beyond normal size after ejaculation. This has never been my experience though, I stay much larger after ejaculation.) I like to "preach" moderation. Holding "in" your ejaculations will do you no good in the long run. Having too many probably isn't good either. So find a happy medium (say, ejaculate every third workout).

[obi-wan]

like i said before ebon00 its just something i heard in here.

[Cgen212]

Well, I just read ebon's tracking progress (like the first couple of pages) and he's had sex while routinely doing PE and that doesn't seem to affect overall PE in the long run (he still makes gains is basically what I'm saying)

So no, I don't think masturbation will affect PE, due to ebon's personal experience.

[Cgen212]

Ack. I can't edit the post, sorry for double posting :(

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=30

The Newbie guide says: Is masturbation ok?

The short answer is no, masturbation is not ok before, after or during the excercises.

Do not masturbate to orgasm 2-3 hours before the excercises or 2-3 hours after. Because if you do, your bloodflow decreases and the hormones that are generated by your body in a state of arousal also subside, this generally impacts your gains in a less than positive way.


So I guess it really depends on the person.

[turtle]

Originally posted by Cgen212
So I guess it really depends on the person.

That completely sums up the concept. There is absolutely no scientific reasearch as to the validity of the +/- 3 hour guideline. It does make a certain amount of sense in terms of the body's reaction to the loss of testosterone, but nothing certain.
turtle

[fberg]

caN i really not masturbate 2 hours before/after doing these exercises!? also if you dont do them how much will you regret it or will the pills drastically not work?

[ebon00]

You can masturbate if you want to. Just make sure you understand why we tend to recommend keeping a slight lid on ejaculation.

I'm not sure what you're going to regret but if you mean if you'll regret not doing the exercises, let's just say that spending money on pills won't be the best thing you ever did in your life. The pills do pretty much two things: increase blood flow to the penis and (slightly) increase free testosterone. With just the pills you'll probably experience better erections and as such you may see a small increase. That will go away once you're off the pills though. To get the benefits of PE you have to work. Simply put, you get out of it what you put into it.

[calc2000]

i'm assuming it doesn't, but after excercising and getting that much bloodflow going to my cock, it's pretty difficult to simply ignore the erection

[calc2000]

haha nevermind

i suppose i should probably read the faq before i ask such an apparently popular question

my mistke

[falcon]

Hey Calc2000. If I need to jack off right before or after a PE session I do it. I don't jack off right before or after PE very much at all so I don't think it hurts anything.

[cabron1]

Hi, I just started the program and I wanted to know if I masturbate right after I'm done with my workout, would that affect my results? Also I had surgery when I was born in one of my balls because it wasn't like in the right position and I wanted to know If the scar that I have in my penis from the surgery is going to affect the gaining of a couple of inches. Thanks



This thread has been placed in the appropriate forum it belongs in. ;)

[Edward]

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[DragonTamer7]

i read something from turtle about how you shouldnt masturbate for at least 3 hour after a PE work out....so i guess my question is th anyone that can anwser... doing the supra slammer requires a form of orgasm to do the ex. so does that mean it not a good ex to throw into you normal mix? or do you mean masturbate as in actually CUM when you masturbate? by the way turtle and supra if you read this thank you for all the awesome advice and ex's. one last question should i mix a PE ex up? like one day do length another day do girth take a day off and so on?



This thread has been placed in the appropriate forum it belongs in. ;)

[ebon00]

Originally posted by DragonTamer7 i read something from turtle about how you shouldnt masturbate for at least 3 hour after a PE work out....


That's the usual recommendation and it's based on the change in hormonal concentrations after ejaculation. No one really knows if it matters though. I've tried both ways and can't honestly say that that I noticed any real difference. I prefer not ejaculating after PE so I can have better sex with my girlfriend.

Originally posted by DragonTamer7 doing the supra slammer requires a form of orgasm to do the ex. so does that mean it not a good ex to throw into you normal mix?

There is no "orgasm" of any kind (are there different kinds?) involved in the Supra Slammer. It does require edging but that is only going very close to orgasm, not actually having one. So don't worry about that, the Slammer is a great combination exercise for the more advanced PE:er.

[Omaior]

hmm so basically it depends on the person. I feel a strong urge to "finish off" after doin the PC exercises cause I feel a build-up in the balls afterwards but I guess I'll try to resist. :(

[Zulu]

hi

many times i go to masturbate after doing exercises :D is this ok? or it may affect results?

[wohoo19m]

Well from my experience, it did affect my results. The gerenal "rule" is to leave around 3 hours before and after pe to "enjoy yourself". But I just don't do it at all during my on days.

[Zulu]

Thanks for reply ;)

[tjford]

yea, dude i've been told if you jack right after exercises, you'll lose everything you gained--pretty good insentive not to choke the chicken. (do it on off days.)

[Amano]

Hi, its great to see such a good resource like this forum helping guys out, I have a question though, when I was younger around 13 I used to masturbate ALOT like 4-5 times a day (Think I became obsessed with it) anyways I was wondering would jerking off that much effect penis growth? Because even though I'm a fairly standard size 6" erect, 6" thick I've been this way ever since I started puberty, havent grown at all in penis size and I'm 19 now. Also another thing that bothers me is I'm really big (6ft8 tall) and I'm worrying girls will expect me to be huge down there because of my big size.

[NEEDMORESIZE]

Firts of all if your really 6" girth you dont really need to do much exercising at all. Thats fanatastic! Many guys work at PE for years and nevver achieve that. At the size I started at I will probably never reach that. SO dont worry about your size. Your perfect man!! thats my two cents

[4PWF]

what are the rules with masterbation and PE. I havent started the program yet but I am about to. I am a chronic masterbater ( at least once a day). Thanks for any help

[falcon]

Hi, its great to see such a good resource like this forum helping guys out, I have a question though, when I was younger around 13 I used to masturbate ALOT like 4-5 times a day (Think I became obsessed with it) anyways I was wondering would jerking off that much effect penis growth? Because even though I'm a fairly standard size 6" erect, 6" thick I've been this way ever since I started puberty, havent grown at all in penis size and I'm 19 now. Also another thing that bothers me is I'm really big (6ft8 tall) and I'm worrying girls will expect me to be huge down there because of my big size.

Doesn't seem like jerking off has hurt you Amano but if you are doing PE I suggest trying to back off from masturbating to 3 times or so a week. If you are doing PE with enough intensity you will not want to jerk off as much.

6" by 6" cock Eh? Not a bad start at all! Do PE consistently over the next 3 to 4 months and you could very well increase to 7 1/4" by 6 3/4". That would be a real woman splitter. Click on the the link at the bottom of my signature. It has a calculator which calculates dick volume. You will see increasing from your current size to 7 1/4" by 6 3/4" will yield a very substantial increase in dick volume.
Dick volume is what a woman feels when you stuff your dick inside of her.

Falcon

[falcon]

what are the rules with masterbation and PE. I havent started the program yet but I am about to. I am a chronic masterbater ( at least once a day). Thanks for any help

4pwf,

Do some searchs on masturbation and PE. A lot has been written on it.

Falcon

[dmediana742]

Hi,

I just started PEing for about half a week now and i was wondering if masturbation can affect my growth rate. What i do now is i PE for about 15-30 mins after the shower warm up. I do all the stretch excercises for 15 mins, and then standard jelq for another 15 min. Then after that i rest and go about my other business for about an hour and wind up on my bed before i go to sleep afterwards to masturbate. But when i start to put my hand in action, i find my penis not being able to have a standard really hard erection. I think its because my penis is still tired from PEing, i dont know?
So i guess what im asking is will masturbating affect my growth rate at all? And is it normal for my dick to not be super hard during masturbation? Im a little scared that it wont be as hard still when i fuck. Any response would be helpful.

dmed.

[Vine]

The lack of a rock solid erection is mostly due to, as you suspected, the fact that your unit is pooped from all the PEing. It's normal. After a few weeks, you'll probably have stronger erections than you ever had before, just so long as you stick with the PEing and make sure you do PC flexes.

You'll read over and over about this "2-3 hour rule" that says to not masturbate within that amount of time of a PE workout.
From my experience it's best to just save it for rest days, as it's much easier to renew my erection between jelq sets if I've not masturbated/ejaculated on a workout day.

Big Vine

[wohoo19m]

Train your PC to pump more blood in there. I can get hard after my workouts without a problem.

[bamaredneck76]

I have read a lot of posts on different sites where guys and girls talk about masturbating quite a bit. My question is this........have any of you ever masturbated with other people in the room? Were they masturbating as well? Would you ever consider masturbating in a group setting(if you will)? I am interested in finding out if anyone, anywhere has ever hosted a masturbation/sex party. With this I mean, a lot of people in the same private room somewhere having sex and masturbating as a group, and no I don't mean switching partners.

[digitalninja42]

Is it ok to masterbate for example on your day off of PEing?
Or does masterbating all together slow down the PEing process?

[DJMIKE]

Hi Digitalninja42.
I Was Asking The Same Question. From What I Have Read, It Seams Not. I Myself Have Stoped, As I Used To Do It 4 Times A Week.
But As I Am On The Program I Can Still Have It In My Hand And Make Some Use Out Of It.

[Daz MN Support]

General view is that it is fine, just not immediatly before or after the exercises :)

[digitalninja42]

ok, thanks.

[Bigbutts]

is it bad to Pe in the morning and masterbate late at night

[turtle]

As long as you sleep more than 3 hours it works fine.
turtle

[ScottMN]

haha good answer. This is an ideal situation as it leaves plenty of recovery time

[Irresistible]

Its quite OK, as long as you don't hurt or over-exercised your penis.

[chillen6985]

ya thats what i do usually until the weekend when my girl is around then lots of sex wich i dont think that is that good for groth beouse the massive drop in tetosterone

[damonhill]

avoid masterbating 3 hours each side of doing PE.

[Smoky]

OK, try to only jack off on your days off. I try to only do it once a week. I hear abstaining from 6-7 days increases testosterone. However any more then that will make the levels fall quickly. So, try to not beat the meat too much boys, self control will be very rewarding to you in several ways. I believe quicker gains will follow and more frequent erections throughout the day causes more and better blood flow. And if you work out more testosterone means fast muscle gains. And when you have sex you'll be way more horny and turned on.

Of course this is my uneducated guess on things... I am no scientist.

[Mase64]

Pop more pills like me! :sm40

[Grudge]

This is a question that is making me think more and more

Does Masturbation help with PE or not Help with PE or does it not matter?

I like to believe it does because im compulsivley doing it so i like to think I get some gain out of it besides satisfaction but yeh, it might not be true.




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[Grudge]

Hey

This is a condom question obvisously, what is the best type of condoms?

When I have sex, i try really hard to give the woman/women ;) the best satisfaction possible, i dont really worry about myself since I always get satisfaction :D but its not always like that for the girl. So is there a condom precisely made for pleasue to women?

Thanx

[Grudge]

Would PE in the shower be good for you or help you or be bad for you and do not much at all????

I believe the best time for privacy is definately the shower plus the warm water helps with a warm up to do you think that PE Exercises would be better/easier in the shower or not. Ive heard of slippage during the exercises but i dont think that would happen to me (special hands :rolleyes: )

Be nice if you could get back to me, anyone

[Grudge]

Is it true that Black People have bigger Dicks then White People? No idea why im really asking this question but im sick of hearing that rumor and i need some reassurance its not true. IT SHITS ME!!!

[Grudge]

Length and Girth. Both of them is needed apparently but which one should you exercise more? I believe length because of the all important "G-Spot" but I would liek to hear your thoughts on this subject... Hit me back

[Grudge]

Does a bigger knob give the girl your ripping into a greater orgasm :p I heard it does (i hear alot of things) but i thought i might check it out. i reckon it would, its just liek have a little more girth a i spose... hmm

[Grudge]

How big do you think the average penis needs to be to reach the infamous "G-Spot" Because once i learn this, thats my goal lol. ;)

[Grudge]

Im not sure if this is only me but I notice that in the shower, when I get errecdtions, my dick is an extra 2cm longer. I find that pretty awesome. Im just wondering if anyone else gets this or mayb im just lucky and im born for sex in the shower :p... im gonna try and take my girlfriend in the shower now ;)

[Edward]

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[hawk]

The g-spot is only about 2-3 inches into the vagina, and its probably best reached with better girth, not length. Or talented fingers.

[Grudge]

Really Hawk, i though it was much further (mayb 5) but i dono as i have never reached it :p so do you have any tips for reaching the "G-Spot" with a penis or some talented fingers because i have pretty long fingers, just point me in the direction and yeh.. ill try my hardest :D :D :D Ill get back to you with my luck.

Oh sorry turtle, i was running low on time becuz i wasnt really in the best location :sm33 and i didnt have alot of time. Otherwise i would of used the search feature but I some of the questions i wasnt to sure what to search and no time to check through the results for what i was looking for. Sorry, it shouldn't/won't happen again

[Grudge]

ok this might be classified as spam and im sorry but since i just noticed that i put turtle instead of edward in my previous post and i thought it was rather rude so im just clarrifying it up. DAM 10min LIMITATIONS ON EDITING YOUR POST!!!

[ironman69]

OK, try to only jack off on your days off. I try to only do it once a week. I hear abstaining from 6-7 days increases testosterone. However any more then that will make the levels fall quickly. So, try to not beat the meat too much boys, self control will be very rewarding to you in several ways. I believe quicker gains will follow and more frequent erections throughout the day causes more and better blood flow. And if you work out more testosterone means fast muscle gains. And when you have sex you'll be way more horny and turned on.

Of course this is my uneducated guess on things... I am no scientist.

What?! 6-7 days?! Gotdamn! I don't know how that would be possible for me. I just started PE last week and its been great so far!

See, I'm the type of dude who no matter how much I get laid, I still find the time to jack off to porn. I'm that horny man I can't help it. So that 6-7 days thing would be torture for me. I usually jack of 3-4 times a day. 1-2 times on the days I fuck my girlfriend.

So are you saying you shouldn';t have sex either for 6-7 days?! That's gonna be torture too. Me and my girl fuck everyday. If I don't see her one day, I'll fuck her the next day. Plus jack off too.

I don't know how you guys do it. But I guess if I wanna see results I gotta be strong. But damn that's gonna be tough.

[Mase64]

yea i started this PE.. pro soultion pills for a reason..want a bigger dick cuz i know im not thick.. i use to have sex also everyday with my GF..now since shes at college..i dont do shit anymore..No i can relax concentrate on my dick getting bigger..so wen i go up to see her..she will go oh damn Steve..wat the hell did u do

[Vandal555]

Ok bloodflow is good right? So I was wondering if it would be helpful to me at all, while I masterbate, to make it last an hour or two? Where I am fully erect for an hour or two and letting blood flow in. Would that be helpful or no? I could do that and not cum at the end

[Beat_the_Myth]

I'll have to counter that question with another question. If masturbation would help bloodflow and in return, a bigger penis, why isn't my dick 2 feet long by now?

[vandel]

I'll have to counter that question with another question. If masturbation would help bloodflow and in return, a bigger penis, why isn't my dick 2 feet long by now?


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!! TUCHE

[Beat_the_Myth]

Question answered.

[Vandal555]

Umm, because you prolly dont masterbate for 2 hours? Im gonna assume you didnt understand my question........

[Vine]

Well...you may be onto something here.

I have always thought that maintaining the sort of increased bloodflow you get from an erection might be especially useful for helping to promote gains following a girth/jelqing workout---sort of along the same lines as using an extender to allow the penis to heal in an extended state following stretching exercises.

Of course there is a limit to how much you can masturbate and keep your penis erect---and masturbating so much that you ejaculate right after a workout would only hinder your results.

Still, my feeling is that keeping the penis in an erect or semi-erect state for a reasonable time period following girthwork/jelqing might help to promote gains...even if only very slightly.

Big Vine

[Mr. Anonymous]

I'll have to counter that question with another question. If masturbation would help bloodflow and in return, a bigger penis, why isn't my dick 2 feet long by now?

-Since sarcasm doesn't translate well to print, I'm going to assume you were being serious.

Obviously blood flow is not the determining factor for growth, thats why people do PE. But it does help, AFTER A WORKOUT, if you keep blood flowing in your johnson.

It really should help, I can't possibly see it being detrimental... unless you cum, of course.

[Dazzlingdaz3]

I personally like to masturbate and edge whilst viewing porn, for up to a couple of hours without blowing the load, after a workout ( when I have the free time / privacy of course) I find that this definitely keeps the cock fat and full and blood flowing. Iam also able to do my PC work whilst edging and get in several hundred killer flexes with out even thinking about it. Wears my dick and PC muscle out quite considerably, but fuckin hard as a rock when everything recuperates :sm29

Cheers
Daz

[Mr_DNO]

Vandel, you may be on to something here. But for two hours,WOW :eek: ! This just may help with your gains. GOOD LUCK

[Vandal555]

Yes, usually after I pe, im turned on, so i watch porn and jerk off for usually about an hour or two, remianing rock hard the whole time, then I dont even cum at the end, I just let it die down. I read alot about lood flow so this seemed a good idea, thx for input

[Mr_DNO]

Keep at it. Trying something is better than doing nothing. I tried to jerk off for a hour straight but I couldn't do it. It was getting to good, I just had to let go :D .LOL! I'll give it another try. Keep us posted and good luck!

[Grudge]

Im still amazed about the 2hrs, ive lost all focus on the blood flow part of this thread :rolleyes:

K i got my focus back, ive always believed that masturbating without cumming has to do something useful to your dick. The blood flow just my be it, keep us updated on how well it is going (<-- im assuming its going to go well, it has to, its almost like logic.) Once youve got hard cold facts, you shpould post in in the Advance Exerciseing Category.

[tommyg]

Ok bloodflow is good right? So I was wondering if it would be helpful to me at all, while I masterbate, to make it last an hour or two? Where I am fully erect for an hour or two and letting blood flow in. Would that be helpful or no? I could do that and not cum at the end
I agree. Bloodflow allows better recuperation of the penis thus allowing the penis to heal quicker if you are doing PE.

Also, by maintaining an erection for that long, allows your penis to get use to staying erect for long periods of time(which alot of men are unable to do, yes alot of men can get hard erections but being able to keep it erect for a long period, which are two different things).

I think it's beneficial. If you like it, keep doing it.

tommyg

[Beat_the_Myth]

You guys are missing the point of recuperating. Masturbating for 2 hours is only going to give the penis uneeded stress. You can get the equivalent amount of bloodflow by applying a heat source. The theory of healing the penis while erect doesn't work unless you can heal in 2 hours. The only way I can think it works is that it just futher expands the penis after a PE, which means you put +2 hours into your PE session. This is my logic.

But if on the other hand it does provide proven results I wouldn't be adversed to doing something like that.

[Vandal555]

Im still amazed about the 2hrs, ive lost all focus on the blood flow part of this thread :rolleyes:

K i got my focus back, ive always believed that masturbating without cumming has to do something useful to your dick. The blood flow just my be it, keep us updated on how well it is going (<-- im assuming its going to go well, it has to, its almost like logic.) Once youve got hard cold facts, you shpould post in in the Advance Exerciseing Category.

LOL, actually, this isnt something I just started doing for PE purposes, it is something I have always done, except for the not cumming at the end part, THATS new hehe. One thing I do realize though from being new to pe , I have weak pc muscles or whatever, liek when I do pc flexes, I cant even do 50 at this point, and I read that makes you not last long and cume arly, however, for years now, many years, I have always have TOTAL control of my erections and when I cum. Average time for sex with my girl is an hour and a half to 2 hours, I stay rock hard the whole time, I got rock hard in an instant, and I cum EXACTLY when I want to, despite my weak pc muscles, Im wondering if this is due to my 2 hour jerk off fests, liek maybe it disciplined me in controling erections and ejaculations. Just a thought

EDIT

second thought just crossed my mind, does how far u shoot cum also have to do with ur pc muscles? I think I read it does but this is also another thing I do oddly strong for someone with weak pc muscles. Ever since I was real young I always shot cum REAL far, for example when I jerk off, if im laying on my bed, I always cum over my head and unto the wall behind me. This has earned me the name Shooter Mcgavin (the bad guy from happy gilmore) and also given me the fetish of loving to give girls facials and there also always suprised cuz I shot extremely large loads. Just odd how I have all the traits of someone with really powerful pc muscles, yet I have almost none, I think.

Also I have thrown pc flexing into my 2 hour jerk off session just to make it more productive, I wont be satisfied til I can hit my girlfriends face while she's at work and im at home lol jk (bad joke)

So was wondering if this cumming REALLY far has anything to do with what I do

[trinifella1]

2 hours jerkin off! u must have could control over ejaculating cuz if i was 2 do it dat long, i'll have to erupt.

[damonhill]

i was wondering suposed i masturbated then had to wait 3 hours before doing PE like recommended, is there nyway i could shorten the length i would need to wait? like taking 2 psp pills to raise my testerone level or any other exercises? or just anything

[wohoo19m]

I'd recommend masterbating AFTER you pe. You can do pe right after if you can, but it'll be harder to get an erection. Wich is why most masturbate after.

[damonhill]

well to be honest when i posted this thread i had masturbated a short while before and was eager to do some PE before i had to go out :cool:

[hawk]

I think its important to remember that PE is better than no PE. Don't let the fact that you masturbated earlier keep you from doing the exercises.

[Skepta]

I think its important to remember that PE is better than no PE. Don't let the fact that you masturbated earlier keep you from doing the exercises.

well said man

[Daz MN Support]

Its important to remember PE is not a science (yet), do what works for u

[somedude]

Hi, i do my excersices irregularly, i try to do 2 days of excersice and 1 off for rest. is this ok ? also can i masturebate and cum before/after excersizing ? will it affect my gains ? ...or should i just wait to do it on my day off from the routine. since usually i exercise and then end it up by cummin. thanx for the help !

[turtle]

Somedude
If you want this stuff to work, lose the irregular workouts, remember the key is consistency, dedication, and intensity. Follow at 3 on 1 off and 2 on 1 off weekly schedule. Avoid masturbation +/- three hours around you routine, and start reading this forum religiously. All of the things that I suggested have been posted many times before. You just need to show some motivation and do a little research. Use the forum search feature and you will find that most of your questions have already been answered in the past.
turtle

[dreamy]

so you are saying you can masterbate right after PE and everything is fine?

[turtle]

dreamy
Everyone is different! I would say that for most people limiting ejaculations is the best approach, but it doesn't seem to bother some others. Where do you fit in?, that's Daz's point. Perhaps it is important for your body, perhaps it isn't. To be on the safe side follow the +/- 3 hour guideline, or you could ignore it and see what happens. Perhaps it wouldn't effect you, perhaps it would. basically, make a decision and see what happens.
turtle

[Metro]

I've done PE with masturbating when i was done, in the past, and had NO gain from it at all...

I am now doing it WITHOUT masturbating and i can SEE that there is going to be a difference when i measure at the 1 month mark (nov 13th). :sm27

[twpenis]

Here's something I've been questioning for a long time...

I've often wondered whether masturbation has any overall affect on penis size. Like, working a muscle. Even more so during puberty.

I actually honestly never masturbated until I was 23, and so I wonder whether my penis size is a result of it. I haven't found anything online connecting the two.

Thoughts?

[Vine]

Well, the more you masturbate, the more fit your penis will be.

So if you don't masturbate until you're into your twenties, then the said benefits of doing so (i.e. a more 'fit' penis) won't become apparent until that time. As far as I know you could be in your forties or fifties or whatever, and never have masturbated---If you were to then start doing so, then yes...your penis would become more fit and, therefore, larger.
I really don't think that age matters in that respect.

As for the impact that masturbation might have as your penis is still growing during puberty......
...Well, good question. :confused:
It would probably end up thicker from the increased bloodflow (i.e. permanent expansion of blood vessels brought on by regular masturbation), but I'm not convinced that it would have your dick getting any larger than if you were to be doing this (more masturbation) at any age.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

Big Vine

[Dazzlingdaz3]

Hey guys,
good question and one which I doubt will ever be proved.

I started masturbating at the age of 13 and was addicted to the point that it was a daily occurrence and more often than not, several times a day. I wonder whether it may have stunted my growth due to the same philosophy of masturbating after PE and the hormones etc being released. Like I said, I dont know that its related at all, but I will say that my PC muscle has always been strong, I have always been a "stayer" in bed, lasting as long as I have wanted to and able to go several times with a short refractory period. So if a slightly smaller dick is the downside then I will go with being a "stayer" anyday :)

Cheers
Daz

[DJMIKE]

HI
i to started masterbating at 13, so i would say the earlyer the better, and i was doing it with the PC flext eaven at that age, i found i could come moor?.
im 49 now and look what it did to me..

[Metro]

I read the over-masturbation can have an effect on size, performance, and impotence (later on)... but I dunno what "over-masturbation" counts as...

and 23?!?! how do you "discover" masturbation at 23? did you just not do it? no desire? didn't know what it was? hat routine sex since puberty?

assuming no desire and smaller than desirable genitals... maybe you have a hormone/glandular problem? have doctors said anything?

[twpenis]

No desire. I guess if you get started, you do it all the time. But I was always fairly controlled with the first few times (i.e. I just never wanted to do it). They say 9/10 guys masturbate... and until 23, I was the 1/10. Anyway, I don't think I'm lacking in testosterone given my sex drive.

Anyway, I won't get over-analytical on why I am where I am. Just a curiosity. I'll see what I can do from here to improve it.

[Jareth]

Don't know have to honestly say ive masterbated from the age of probly around umm 4th grade so what 9 maybe???? Iam unhappy with my flaccid hang but my erection size is above average, and girth as well, i belive it effects pe gains, but does it really effect penis size in general.. Id say no!!! Give me one difference from masterbating, and sex (testosterone, hormone, whatever etc release) obviously sex is heaven, masterbating isn't.. but masterbating doesn't tear down tissue like pe.. So i see no reason to think it would.. Now if your losing sex drive for say your wife, GF that can be the cause of masterbating in this, when us guys masterbate we tend to not fantasize about our "significant other" instead we focus more on what??? Three somes, porn stars, the girl next door etc, therefore leading to what i like to call pornagrafitis, seriously people can be addicted to porn and it effect their life :sm22

[Metro]

i almsot never look at porn... i mean, when i was like 16 and we had internet, i experiented off and on. I owned ONE playboy (a housewarming gift)... I have seel maybe 3 movies... and I had maybe 3-4 couple month periods where i looked at porn on the internet.

but i don;t like it... its too fake. I know that NOBODY is enjoying it... The girls were probably raped/mollested at a young age... they guys don't respect their whore-mothers, which is why they are into being porn stars... and I noticed that a chick in a wet T-shirt used to be hot, but as you get farther into it... it is SOOO tame... and its only hot if a chick is getting DP or shoving a cucumber up her snatch or something... the longer you let it go... eventually snuf films and really strange shit... roman showers, etc...

NO THANKYOU!!!

I have an excellent imangination and honestly, it DOES involve my girlfriend... doing very naughty things... muaaahaha :sm40

[Nemesis]

but if u keep on masterbating,wont your sperm become lesser and lesser?

[Metro]

but if u keep on masterbating,wont your sperm become lesser and lesser?

if you masturbate often... the longer you wait between "goes" :sm22 ... the more you should cum... but you won;t run out... unless you go like 12 times in a day... if you even can.. lol

[Nemesis]

sorry,am too amateur..can I ask what do you mean by 'goes'? :sm33

[Jareth]

sorry,am too amateur..can I ask what do you mean by 'goes'? :sm33
he means the longer u wait between masterbating.. Like two days three days etc

[Jareth]

i almsot never look at porn... i mean, when i was like 16 and we had internet, i experiented off and on. I owned ONE playboy (a housewarming gift)... I have seel maybe 3 movies... and I had maybe 3-4 couple month periods where i looked at porn on the internet.

but i don;t like it... its too fake. I know that NOBODY is enjoying it... The girls were probably raped/mollested at a young age... they guys don't respect their whore-mothers, which is why they are into being porn stars... and I noticed that a chick in a wet T-shirt used to be hot, but as you get farther into it... it is SOOO tame... and its only hot if a chick is getting DP or shoving a cucumber up her snatch or something... the longer you let it go... eventually snuf films and really strange shit... roman showers, etc...

NO THANKYOU!!!

I have an excellent imangination and honestly, it DOES involve my girlfriend... doing very naughty things... muaaahaha :sm40
Good shit man, i was just bringin it to some people attention as i have talked to quit a few people that are porno fanatics, and have these issues.

[Project_Moss]

Sometimes when I am doing my exercises I have an uncrontrolled climax and it pisses me off. I guess I better do some more pc flexes.

[Nemesis]

he means the longer u wait between masterbating.. Like two days three days etc

so you mean if I masterbate frequently such as everyday,I will take a longer time to cum?

[Metro]

Good shit man, i was just bringin it to some people attention as i have talked to quit a few people that are porno fanatics, and have these issues.

Yeah... the more i know about porn and all its effects on people (involved in making it AND in watching it), the more i begin to hate it... People aren't naturally meant to look at that shit.

Sometimes when I am doing my exercises I have an uncrontrolled climax and it pisses me off. I guess I better do some more pc flexes.

yeah... but if it starts to feel good, stop doing the exercise for a couple seconds, until you "die down" a bit.... eventually PC strength and practice will help you.



so you mean if I masterbate frequently such as everyday,I will take a longer time to cum?

I was tired when i wrote that, so lemme re-phrase.

If you masturbate every day, your spermcount goes down, because you are constantly draining it. If you wait a few days... you build it back up. If you wait a couple weeks/months... you have volcanic-scale eruptions... get a gravy boat ready to catch your "Prostate Picante" cuz you will need it!!!

as far as how long it takes you to cum... that depends on a number of things... if you masturbate 3 times in one day... one right after another... it will take longer to cum each time...

but there if you masturbate once/day versus once/3days there should be little to no difference in how soon you cum... mainly just volume

[Looking4aBoost]

I've heard that if you masturbate one time a day, you will have better sex, because your penis is healthy and used to ejaculating everyday.

I've also heard that waiting a week in between ejaculations will cause you to have firmer erections and therefore, better sex, due to the build up of testosterone.

Which is better for you?

[Metro]

I've heard that if you masturbate one time a day, you will have better sex, because your penis is healthy and used to ejaculating everyday.

I've also heard that waiting a week in between ejaculations will cause you to have firmer erections and therefore, better sex, due to the build up of testosterone.

Which is better for you?

Your penis is designed to ejaculate until the day you die. The most common reasons people have sexual/erectile problems is related to general health, nutrition, and lifestyle. So, I think that the masturbate once-per-day is BS.

I'm inclined to believe that sex is better if you don't masturbate between sessions.

I heard that masturbating incorrectly (too fast/hard/etc) will cause you to lose sensitivity and TRAIN your penis to have little stamina, because it is used to getting aroused and ejaculating within a couple minutes.

If you do PE properly and concentrate on your penis' health, i think that your sex-life will improve more than if you just masturbate once-per-day.

[Jareth]

Your penis is designed to ejaculate until the day you die. The most common reasons people have sexual/erectile problems is related to general health, nutrition, and lifestyle. So, I think that the masturbate once-per-day is BS.

I'm inclined to believe that sex is better if you don't masturbate between sessions.

I heard that masturbating incorrectly (too fast/hard/etc) will cause you to lose sensitivity and TRAIN your penis to have little stamina, because it is used to getting aroused and ejaculating within a couple minutes.

If you do PE properly and concentrate on your penis' health, i think that your sex-life will improve more than if you just masturbate once-per-day.
I would have to agree

[Rob]

Was member last year but lost patience. Still depressed at size so have started PE again.

Just looking for general advice....

1. I do most of the exercises but how often should you PE? Every day or every other day?? Just noticed some red spots on shaft - have I been overdoing it?

2. What about masturbating. I masturbate most days but get the feeling that this isn't good for PE (hard to resist tho lol!). Any advice here?

3. Have used a Blakoe ring to help packet look bigger in jeans. Works a little bit but it makes my sack itch like hell. Any other suggestions to give it a 'wonderbra' lift? (and don't say stick a cucumber down there lol).

Many thanks, Rob.

[Big Al]

"1. I do most of the exercises but how often should you PE? Every day or every other day?? Just noticed some red spots on shaft - have I been overdoing it?"

As a beginner, 3 x a week is fine. You can add an extra day evey 2 weeks or so. Most advanced trainees train about 5-6 times a week. As long as your spots remain small, there's nothing to worry about. Hot wrapping and massage will help the spots dissipate faster.

"2. What about masturbating. I masturbate most days but get the feeling that this isn't good for PE (hard to resist tho lol!). Any advice here?"

As long as you're not abusing yourself, you'll be OK. If you masturbate to the point to where you don't have the energy to train, you're overdoing it!

"3. Have used a Blakoe ring to help packet look bigger in jeans. Works a little bit but it makes my sack itch like hell. Any other suggestions to give it a 'wonderbra' lift? (and don't say stick a cucumber down there lol)."

You could try wearing a jock strap without the cup :)

[ktalau]

i'm sure many of you have this problem.

when doing the exercise and your cock is hard, how is it possible that you don't play with it and continue with the exercise and keep massaging it with all the horny thoughts running through your head?

[turtle]

It's discipline, and simply being in command of the situation. Good practice for an amazing number of things that you regularly face in life.
turtle

[Jareth]

Its something that is hard not to do. Like turtle said just have discipline and gains will be good..

[warwizard]

Haha yeah discipline. That's what its about. Think of it this way:

You are doing PE, thinking about getting your penis bigger, then all of a sudden you get hard and you get the urgings to masturbate. From here you have two choices: 1. Go ahead and masturbate and mess up your PE routine. You will stall your efforts of getting a bigge penis for a few minutes of pleasure. Or 2. You have some discipline; don't masturbate, conitnue your PE and think about the pleasure you will have once you notice your penis is bigger.


Well atleast that's what I would do. But I don't get those thoughts when I get hard when I'm PEing.