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sammyfox
01-10-2002, 04:10 AM
I have a major problem with premature ejaculation. When I have sex I sometimes loose it within seconds.

Darren PH support
01-10-2002, 04:11 AM
Make sure you do the PC exercises (or pub). They work alot and you should see massive improvements within a month.

frostymous
07-28-2002, 03:49 PM
I have been facing premature ejaculation for quite
a number of years and been trying hard to get over
it. My girl have been always complaining about
ejaculating too fast. Less than a minute. I couldn't
satisfy her. I make her so hot during foreplay but
when I plunge in, disastrous.

Can anyone please advice me the best method/
technique to end ths humiliating problem?
Please!!! :(

jay420
07-31-2002, 07:58 PM
there are alot of guys out there that are affected by premature ejactulation. i heard it is one out of every 3 guys that will suffer form this. but there are a world of thing out there you can do to cure or help you alot with the situation you face so dont give up cause not all are designed to cure but rather to help and if one doesnt work try another till you find the one that helps, even if it puts on just another minute yeah a minute here a minute there till you can put a couple of minutes on. first you need to look at the better sex guild it teaches you "the point of no return" next you can look under sex advice and they have some tactics thats might be able to help like whack it before you have sex ext. if you wear condoms go to www.condomaina.com and look under extended pleasure that condom contains benzocain and is designed to num your soldier and will put on a couple of extra min. and I hope you already look or tried the pc exercises. and there are many products you can try that nums you and will make you last longer. here are some sites www.hardAid.com and www.Winghopfung.com. and then here is one I read from a book called maxim sex. step 1 whack it and just consintating on the feeling of your dick when you feel you gonna go stop and let it subside. do this like 6 times and keep doing it until you can last 15 min without having to stop. then do the same thing but use lotion to make thing more realistic and see what makes you cum faster so that you can control it. once again until you can last 15 min. then this might sound weird but start all over but get your girl to do it for you and then when you can last 15 try it with lotion again. when you can last 15 or more min with her jerking and not having to stop youll be able to last at least a couple a min and if she thinks its akward then tell her its not just for you but for us. the point is is that the best way to last longer is to get used to the feeling so that you can control and train yourself to last longer. lets see what else is there you can slow down and oh yeah when you slow down and let things build up ejaculation feels better. you can try differnt postion and this might also sound funny, look up hypnosis products they have one with premature ejaculation. I never tried it but people claim to have lasted almost an hour after weeks of doing self hypnosis. I acually think it might work cause ejaculation is one part phsyical and 2 parts mental. well man sorry this was so long but I spit out every i ever heard will help. get a piece of paper and right down all this and if one does not make you last 5 minutes longer then dont get discouge cause remember some are only designed to help. just keep trying and I garentee you youll be on your way to becoming a maraton man. gook luck and keep me up dated.

frostymous
08-01-2002, 02:33 PM
hi, jay420,

Thanks for the help rendered, I appreciate it. I am trying not to use any product, I do not want to depend on them my entire life. I think this is a mental issues, maybe I will try the hypnosis thing. I'm gladful.

2j1661722j
08-02-2002, 03:46 PM
maybe a silly question?

but did you try masturbating 1/4hr - 1hr b4 sex. That can help. Also an extended jelq can make you pretty numb which might allow you to be in for a while before really feeling anything.

Xolotl
03-26-2003, 03:43 PM
One trick to prevent ejaculation, although I am not sure how possible it is while having sex. Is to press on the perinum (sp?) point. It is located between the scrotum and the anus. Press hard and it will prevent you from ejaculating.

This is done with the PC muscle once you have strengthened it. I read about this and tried it while mastrubating. It was very wierd having an orgasm without the mess. Now I often do this when I mastrubate to prevent the cleanup work afterwards.

But if you train the PC muscle then you can do this with no hands.

-X

Splack
03-26-2003, 06:18 PM
OK several things
Doing any type of sports helps a lot because it increases testosterone levels, ever since I started weightlifting I've been able to finish whenever I want.
Work out that PC muscle and I promise you'll be able to last a lot longer
Alcohol, get a little drunk and you'll be able to go on for awhile

john
03-27-2003, 07:00 AM
i'm sure you've heard of the stop/start method...try that combined with a daily dosage of zoloft (25 mil. once a day; depending on the person, he may only have to take a dosage only when he has sex...just have to experiment and see what works for you). trust me, that'll clear you're pre. ejac... and if you don't want to take the prescribed med. route, simply use a condom...condoms work well for many people

tigerbartlett
03-27-2003, 12:24 PM
As an afterthought, some condoms that are available on the market have a desensitizing lubricant inside the condom itself, so that your feeling of excitement within your penis is diminished. Sort of like a numbing sensation.

It's purported purpose is to make you able to last longer.

Has anyone tried these out? Does it work?

maxpower454
03-28-2003, 07:00 AM
yea, i have the same problem but actually i have been able to last longer lately because of doing more PC exercises. i also noticed my erections were harder after i started doing more PC exercises

tigerbartlett
03-28-2003, 08:46 AM
Of all the methods of preventing premature ejaculation that are known, developing your PC muscle with an exercise program that specifically targets your PC by itself is perhaps the one method where you are in a position to directly have control of your muscle.

A strong, developed PC muscle, attained through the exercises listed, will allow you to manage and manipulate your ejaculation sequence, however you like. The main thing is that after you have developed your PC muscle, you now have the option available to you whether or not you in fact want to ejaculate, or prolong the sexual experience. You can also orgasm without ejaculating!

As you realize, the only method that can provide such benefits would be to develop the self-control capabilities by having a well developed PC muscle.

Okay, that's enough! I'm starting to sound like a broken record.

LookingforLengt
11-29-2003, 01:56 PM
I have been having the problem lately where I do not last as long as I wish i could when it comes to sex, especially when doing it doggy style. I was wondering if anyone had any pointers on ways to either make my dick less sensitive or to be able to control my ejaculations more so i can last longer in bed. Any help would be great.. thanks for your time

Edward
11-30-2003, 06:20 AM
:) Hi Lookingforlengt - Plenty of good advice throughout this forum.

Click on the following link to get started: Ejaculation Control (http://mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=11673#post11673) ;)

reverie
11-30-2003, 06:03 PM
How long, on average, does it take to get results from the PC exercises where you have ejaculation control? Let's say I'm doing 50-100 reps/day 5days/week.

d-mon
12-02-2003, 10:41 PM
i think that kegals (pc exercises) make all the difference in the world...a month ago I had the exact same problem, but now Im a LOT more in control and can go a HELL of a lot longer

also, one thing I noticed, I weightlift religiously, and often one of my supplements has been a testosterone precursor....2 things with this, Im horny ALL THE TIME, and my cock is really sensitive during sex....I blow a lot faster!

not sure what's in PE pills (never tried them) but you might want to look closely at what if any supplementation you are doing.

in short though PC PC PC.

d-mon
12-02-2003, 10:43 PM
oh damn..forgot to mention,
I read somewhere on Penis-Health, that once youve developed a stronger PC muscle, during sex if you are on the verge of blasting, stop and contract the PC for about 3 seconds, then start up again....works like a charm

Unregistered
12-03-2003, 10:23 PM
D-mon- How long did it take for your to get your PC in shape to where you noticed a difference? What were you doing exercise wise (reps, etc.)?

K_9
12-05-2003, 08:10 AM
Id have to say the easiest way is probably Zoloft..... my friend recently got it perscribed to him by reading the symptoms of someone who needs Zoloft off the internet and then relaying these symptoms to his doctor..... so it obviosuly isn't too hard to get.... not to mention it takes away social anxiety

calithuggin510
01-06-2004, 07:23 AM
Hey whats up I have a problem.I cant last that long in bed.I can only go for 3-6 minutes maybe 10 if im lucky.If I drink an get a lil drunk I can go for 15-20 minutes on a good night.But sober i just cant last.Why is that?What can I do?Is there any pills or cream to help me with this problem.People have told me just to pull out for 15 seconds and then put it back in but then ill just nut in another minute.This is really embarrasing.I think it is imprtant to be able to last long.I think its more important to last long in bed then to have a bigger penis.What do you guys think??Also i am not circumcised does this make a difference in bed????I have a new Girlfriend and we havent started to have sex but we will in the next couple months.She is a girl with high standards and I know she will want to be statifyed in bed and I would love to satisfy her.What can i do.I really need help!!Somone help me.

Edward
01-06-2004, 10:36 AM
:) Greetings calithuggin510 - Welcome to the Mens-Network Forum.

You've come to the right place, my friend, to ask your questions, express your opinions, and offer your fellow members some good advice from your personal experiences.

Whether or not you are circumcised has very little, if any affect upon premature ejaculation.

There is vast amount of information regarding your dilemma within the Mens-Network forums that can easily be obtained by using the Forum Search feature.

Just click on the following link Step 1 - Use the Forum Search (http://mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2940) to get you started.

By entering the keywords premature ejaculation will take you to at least 19 threads as it relates to this topic.

And so on...

By utilizing the Forum Search feature, you will obtain your answers quickly and productively.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Does anyone else have some good advice for our friend?
;)

leolewko
01-26-2004, 06:07 AM
Hi,


When I'm about to ejacuate, either via Masterbation or intercourse, I would try to hold it by flexing my PC muscle. This would do the job, but the problem is not completely. What happens is a little bit of the sperm leaks out. What this does is, it decrease the erection hardness, shrinking the penis a little. If I do this multiple times in a session, I get a flaccid penis eventually at the end without ever reaching orgasm. And that really sucks.

I'm thinking this may be because my PC muscle is not strong enough to stop the ejacuation completely, but I have been doing PC exercises for weeks if not months now, and I am not feeling it getting stronger at all.

Any of you experiencing something similar? Any advise?

mowinman
01-26-2004, 06:37 AM
Welcome to the forum leolewko, the process you describe is termed "edging" It is one of lifes little known pleasures and it helps with girth increasing too. It does sound like you have not developed the PC muscle well enough. The second problem is that it is all in the timing, one stroke too many and you begin ejaculation, one stroke too few and you miss. Yes, a sofened penis is normal when ejaculation initiates. The key is to look for the point where pleasure by spasm occurs without ejaculation. The good new is that with practice you will refine this to an art making you multi-orgasmic.

falcon
01-26-2004, 07:41 AM
Leolewko, it took me a good 3 to 4 months to realize any improvement in my PC muscle. I think it was due to being pretty much in shape already. My ex-girlfriend of 2 1/2 years liked me to flex my dick inside of her so she could get off. I was training my PC muscle and didn't even know it.
When I started PE I worked the PC muscle like crazy but even so it still took. Months to see any improvement.
First time I noticed a stronger PC muscle I was masturbating and when I came I actually did a 75% sit up in bed!

leolewko
01-26-2004, 08:58 PM
Mowinman, first I just wanted to say that your posts are great! Are you a doctor?

Anyway, if what I described is "edging", I don't really think that it's pleasurable at all. Truth is, I think I know what you are talking about though.

When I first started masterbating in Middle school, I did this a lot. I would masterbate, almost till I ejacuated, and I would feel the rush of sperm almost coming out, for at least a few seconds. And just as I was about to ejacuate, I would stop then repeat the whole process again so that I can feel that "rush" again. Now THAT was pleasurable.

Nowadays, I don't feel that rush as much anymore. It's VERY MINIMAL. I would feel it maybe for ONE whole damn second, and if I continue to stroke it, I would ejacuate, and if I don't, a bit of sperm leaks out, and my penis becomes flaccid. It totally blows.

It never leaked like that when I was younger. I don't really understand why my penis's gotten so weak.

Premature leakage, along with minimal "rush" duration, totally takes the joy away from masterbating/sex.

Would doing PC muscles fix this problem? Nowadays, I just flex it really fast whenever I have time. I don't hold for 3 seconds or nothing. Does it help to hold longer?

mikenmike0001
01-26-2004, 10:10 PM
yeah.i seem to notice that leakage problem too while doing the pc flexes.....i tend to have a hard time keeping a 100% erection while doing the 3 second lifts so have to slowly constantly massage myself, and for some reason, i have some crap that keeps coming out of my whole......it's not really sperm i don't think.....it's clearish but slimy.....and i keep on having to wipe it off, and it won't go away.....so fuckin annoying........i don't know what that happens or how to control it......it just goes out on it's own.......

mowinman
01-27-2004, 05:19 AM
Originally posted by leolewko
Mowinman, first I just wanted to say that your posts are great! Are you a doctor?No, I just have a medical background having had several years in EMS, and taking many classes. Also, once involved in PE, I continued to study the sciences.

Anyway, if what I described is "edging", I don't really think that it's pleasurable at all. Truth is, I think I know what you are talking about though.

When I first started masterbating in Middle school, I did this a lot. I would masterbate, almost till I ejacuated, and I would feel the rush of sperm almost coming out, for at least a few seconds. And just as I was about to ejacuate, I would stop then repeat the whole process again so that I can feel that "rush" again. Now THAT was pleasurable.This is exactly waht edging is.

Nowadays, I don't feel that rush as much anymore. It's VERY MINIMAL. I would feel it maybe for ONE whole damn second, and if I continue to stroke it, I would ejacuate, and if I don't, a bit of sperm leaks out, and my penis becomes flaccid. It totally blows.Sorry to hear this, I am not sure how old you are but this happens to most men. A gradual decline over the years, not as it used to be. This is why you will see older men beginning PE.

It never leaked like that when I was younger. I don't really understand why my penis's gotten so weak.

Premature leakage, along with minimal "rush" duration, totally takes the joy away from masterbating/sex.This also could be related to age, PE helps correct many of the problems associated with age.

Would doing PC muscles fix this problem? Nowadays, I just flex it really fast whenever I have time. I don't hold for 3 seconds or nothing. Does it help to hold longer? They can help, you can vary the time held, sometimes I do 50 kegals with 5 second hold followed by a kegal held until failure. Bary the way you perform them.

mowinman
01-27-2004, 05:23 AM
mikenmike0001, what you decribe as clearish but slimy fluid is pre-cum. It is the natural lubricant you body produces when sexually excited, or when you stimulate your penis. This is quite normal.

leolewko
01-27-2004, 08:01 AM
K. thanks. Mow. BTW. I'm 26 years old.

sevenup
02-03-2004, 09:22 PM
Hello calithuggin510!

You might have an over abundance of histimine. L-histidine a protein is a percursor for histamine.

When you have an imbalance or to much histimine in your body the mast cells of your penis become super sensitive.

If you have allergies you will notice a greater sensitivity sexually when the allergy flares up.

Lack of L-Hisitidine can cause women to be non orgasmic. An increase in L-Histidine will increase the sensitivity of their clitoris mast cells and sexual state as a whole making orgasm much easier.

I experienced hay fever every spring for years. During that time
my histimine levels soured. I could cum just looking at my penis.
It was so super sensitive I didn't have to have a hard on to cum.
Not a good feeling when you have a lady wanting you to
do a good number on them.

You can take 500 mg l-methionine, 500 mg magnesium and 50 mg of vitamin B-6 to help balance your system if this is causing your
problem.

Before you take any supplements search the web using
histimine and premature ejaculation. You can educate yourself
concerning premature ejaculation and see if this could be what
causes your problem. Hope this helps.

sevenup

jont1098
11-01-2004, 08:14 PM
I have just recently started the penis health workout and prosolution pills. I initially started the program becasue of premature ejaculation. i have a strong pc muscle and i am able to hold back but when ever i orgasm i lost the erection, whether i cum or not. the program is making me cum even quicker than before. should i stop the program or should i keep with it and things will get better.

okrmeng
02-18-2005, 09:16 PM
Hi,

I was doing som research on premature ejaculation. Everyone on this site says that PC exercises are enough to stop premature ejaculation. But I read somewhere that homemone imbalace is also a factor in premature ejacualtion.

"Premature Ejaculation occurs when your body produces too much hormone too fast. Your body becomes "over stimulated". The head of the penis becomes so sensitive that you ejaculate almost immediately. There is absolutely no control." taken from stayerrect

There are pills out there that claim it will help and some even cure premature ejaculation. Has anyone here used any of these pills? Any recommendations?



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hawkster24
04-20-2005, 10:27 PM
im still having problems with premature ejaculation :-/ .. ive been taking prosolution for about 4-5 months and although ive gained a few inches which is great my premature ejac hasnt really stopped... with a condom i dont last to long maybe 1-4 mins and without i lasted about 2-3... ive tried the condoms with numbing gel and i dislike it i enjoy feeling some pleasure which isnt really noticeable when ur penis is numb.. how can i fix this.. if i could go 10-20mins thatd be great

Ergo
04-21-2005, 02:18 AM
have you tried doing kegel/pc muscle excersizes?

wohoo19m
04-21-2005, 10:36 AM
Hey if you can make your woman come in 1-4 min then you don't need to last that long now do you? ;)

hawkster24
04-21-2005, 11:10 AM
have you tried doing kegel/pc muscle excersizes?

i started doing them last night.. do they work? i dont really understand how its sposed to help premature ejac? if you can tighten the muscle when your about to cum and hold it and it stays in, is that how it works or once its in better shape you just last longer?

wohoo19m
04-21-2005, 11:15 AM
No you got it, when your at your "point of no return" ( when your about to cum) you just stop all movement and squeeze your pc. It works, trust me :D

hawkster24
04-22-2005, 11:43 AM
No you got it, when your at your "point of no return" ( when your about to cum) you just stop all movement and squeeze your pc. It works, trust me :D


LOL isnt that kind of obvious? haha she'll be like wtf is he doing! lol anywho ill work on the PC muscle, i saw a pic of this Supra character .. howd he pull that off ??

im really aiming for girth because im about 7.5" now but only like 1.5-2 wide(left to right) only 5'4" so i figure if i can get this girth worked out and pull out something like supra im in good shape.. not to mention my gains were mostly JUST PSPills, hardly any stretching...

rustr05
04-24-2005, 07:01 AM
Gaahhh!!!! I wrote a 4 paragraph essay on ways to help you out hawkster. But this forum has been giving login issues since I've joined. I'll have to retype it another day. Sorry about that. I have some good advice for ya though.

Rustr

rustr05
04-24-2005, 07:51 AM
Ok, this time I wrote my post in Notepad first - not gunna let this happen again... :mad:

LOL isnt that kind of obvious? haha she'll be like wtf is he doing!

(PNR = Point of No Return = uh....oh....ahhhh! too late...)

I guess if you want to "hide" the fact that you're trying not to cum then maybe you could try doing it discreetly. For example, you are about to reach PNR so you slow down or stop. Now do your Kegels and at the same time change sex positions. This brief pause will seem natural and she will like your creativity. Sure, it might mean you try 10 positions in the span of 4 minutes but it gives you an excuse to slow down the stimulation. Personally, I think that it is better just to be open about it so she knows that you are trying to make things more enjoyable. This also eliminates the feeling that you are pressured to perform. If you let her know that you are trying out new techniques and that you need LOTS and LOTS of practice then maybe she'd find that interesting and want to help you out. As long as it isn't distracting.

Here's some other pointers:
Deep breathing. A lot of sex therapists will tell you that you need to be one with your body and you need to harness the sensation in your penis and spread it out throughout your body's Tao Chi blah blah. Basically all you are doing in order to accomplish this is breathing deeply and relaxing. When you flex your muscles, you are creating tension and tension leads to quicker orgasms. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have physically active sex but maybe right now it's not a good idea since it wouldn't help your cause any. The deep breathing also helps tremendously I have found. You know how some people have odd sexual behavious where they enjoy being strangled during sex? Well this is because the sexual stimulation is heightened by the lack of oxygen. So they "get off" on this added pleasure. You, my friend, need to do the opposite and get MORE oxygen in your body so it diminishes the pleasure a little bit. So RELAX and BREATH.

Here's another pointer:
Instead of doing a regular Kegel, try a reverse Kegel. You basically flex the PC muscle like you would when you are going pee. This should substantially decrease the intensity of the pleasure you're feeling while you hold this flex (although it can get very tiring). If you do a regular Kegel (flex like you're holding back pee) while continuing the stimulation then you are screwed (literally). In order for a regular Kegel to work you MUST stop stimulation (this is from my own personal experience - others may differ slightly). The reason is that a regular Kegel forces blood into your penis which increases the sensitivity of the nerve endings. So if you do a Kegel AND continue stimulation then the intensity will get even worse! So instead, you need to anticipate the PNR, pause the stimulation (honey, lets try doggie style now k?) and at the same time do your Kegels. What I do is I'll do a reverse Kegel when I start to feel the wave getting outa control and this will calm things down a bit (deep breathing). But as we continue and I feel like I'm reaching the PNR then we'll slow down and I'll do a series of regular and reverse Kegels. If required, we'll stop for 6-9 seconds until things have calmed down enough and then we can go for round 2 (and 3 and 4 and ... and 69, etc...). In short, a regular Kegel must be done without stimulation, and a reverse kegel takes blood out of the penis which decreases sensativity slightly thus prolonging sex.

Nother pointer:
Try the techniques that I described above on your own. So grab your "visual aids" and practice reaching your PNR, slowing down or stopping (keeping your hand on the sensative areas so as to closely mimic sex), do the Kegel flexes, pause for a bit (breath) until the sensativity has subsided, then go again. This time you are already warmed up so I'd try the reverse Kegel to slow the process down a little bit. Keep doing this over and over again until you can't stand it or your hand goes numb (j/k). I'd set goals too. So after you reach PNR the first time, try performing this cycle 5 times, then 10 times, then 15. Or go for timing. After reaching PNR then continue the stimulation, kegel, rest sequence until you've done it for 10 minutes, then 20, then 30. You see where this is going? Eventually you will get so used to the sensations and how to control it that when you actually have sex it will be even easier. The time you can go between "rests" will get longer and longer. The sexual intensity you can withstand will also increase.

I can't overemphasize the breathing part though. Add this to your techniques and you should see definate improvements.

Rustr

Side note: I'm hardly a sex pro and this is only my 3rd post (4th if you count my first attempt). But these are just ideas that I've found to work pretty well and I just finally realized many of these techniques in the last 4 months of PE and reading advice on these forums.

wohoo19m
04-25-2005, 05:50 AM
Deep breathing is a good point, it helps. And it also makes your partner think your enjoying sex with her like hell :D

hawkster24
04-27-2005, 08:07 PM
sounds great chief, but i dont really understand the reverse kegel.. u push out kinda .. in stead of squeezing? lol i dont really care about how she feels about it lol, ive got great communication skills but recently shes just been completly gay but really trying to extend my time... also.. i find my friends tell me all the time they can bust and still stay hard... is this just me that cant do that lol? could it possibly be the ribbed & studded condoms im using (get them for free) ?

grgrgr
04-27-2005, 11:45 PM
Reverse Kegeling: you push out "like trying to win a pissing competition". I read that in a post by a fellow PEer. Although it may help you, I believe that prem. ejac. has to do mainly with our minds.

Men can get over-excited really soon and as a result we blow our loads very quickly. In my opinion we should try to"imitate" women's approach in sex. They seem to know how to control their levels of arousal and they reach climax slowly. Think of it as a pyramid: Women start at the very bottom and gradually move to the top. On the other hand, men usually start much higher and that's why timing is so bad.

Relax, enjoy the foreplay and try to build up your "excitement" more slowly. Breathing right will definitely help you as it controls our heartbeats. Finally, exercising your PC muscle regularly (even on a daily basis) will result in stronger erections that will last long after ejaculation.

Good luck!

ultraborn
05-13-2005, 12:12 AM
Hello all,
I'm starting to see the baseball bat effect developing on my penis. What can I do to counter this?
My routine:
The Wake Up Cloth 4 minutes
The Long Shlong 6 minutes
The Jelq 10 minutes(I try getting from 100-200 reps)
Pressured Long Shlong 6 minutes
Jelq & Hold 6 minutes (about 70-100 reps)
PC Weighted 4 minutes
The Wake Up Cloth 4minutes

wohoo19m
05-13-2005, 05:49 AM
There is an exercise to counter this effect, but it's way too advanced for you right now. Just just concentrate on your routine for now, and in 3 months you'll be ready for the exercise. The reason why I'm not telling you is because you could have a very high possibility of injury with this exercise. It pumps like hell.

jsmith
05-14-2005, 05:15 AM
Hey guys, nice forum you have going on here :) I feel comfortable talking about stuff..

Anyway, im 19 yrs, like 155LBS.. My problem is i have a REALLY bad premature ejaculation problem. I think the reason why is that in the past, i had sex with like 5-6 girls and each time, i would try to get there as fast as i could (cuz parents were getting home, etc), same for masturbation, i would try to get there as fast as possible.. Then all of a sudden, now when i have sex, i get there really fast.. It only takes like a few thrusts for me to come..

Now im wondering if this is psychological or medical? My first guess would be psychological reasons..

Anyway i recently started working out and i got the prosolutions pill. Do you think PE exercises & Pills & VItamins will help me last longer? What do you guys suggest?

kowboi
05-14-2005, 09:44 AM
dude. I know how you feel. I used to be kind of like that. I wouldnt come in a few strokes, but I'd have to stop thrusting every 30 seconds or so, just to keep from shooting my wad. What it tooke for me was to have a fuck buddy who was really good in bed and very very vocal. She'd scream and scream and I'd just lay there, with her on top, trying not to come. It was so much fun. Anyways, that helped a lot, but other than that, things that you could do are; practice masturbating without coming. PE will help "desensitize" your penis a little bit - at least in my experience.
Now, with my wife - she begs me to finish. If I don't she gets swollen and soar - it's kind of funny - a little bit anyways. Of course she won't let me touch her for a few days until the swelling subsides!!!

ChronDick
05-14-2005, 10:28 AM
Hey man, I am 20 years old and I used to have that same problem.

First off PE will help you with lasting longer, make sure your doing PC flexes, they will help the most in that department, if your really serious about it get an ROP, if you don't know what that is, use forum search for ROP, there are tons of big threads on them.

Second, your going to have to change whats going on in your head when your having sex, i used to get so worked up that I was finally having sex, i would concentrate on me having sex and that made me come really quick, so now I keep my mind off me and focus more on her while having sex, don't think about how excited you are or how good it feels.

Third, try what kowboi was saying, masturbate, but not to climax, bring yourself really close, then stop, squeeze your PC muscle hard, subside the urge to blow your load, repeat untill you can't hold it any longer, try to last at least 30 min.

Hope it helps man,

Chron

HERES TO MORE GIRTH!!

Smoky
05-15-2005, 10:57 AM
Everything these guys have said seems like good advice. OK I admit I busted very fast when I lost my virginity. But I quickly found out the first time you come is quick, yeah, but then the second time usually lasts much longer. I mean if you're new to sex then I'm sure you can bust a nit then keep going. I could when I first started anyways. And if you can't then jack off a bit before you see her. But you should really get into pe and all that. The things I suggested are only a quick fix and don't always work. Do PE and you'll be a stallion within months.

ultraborn
05-15-2005, 01:58 PM
Alright, thank you for your help. Are you referring to the needling exercise?

MVPlaya
05-16-2005, 07:47 AM
Hey guys, Just a few things i would like to talk about as to helping me figure out how i can help cure my pre-ejaculation. I have been reading around the forums and i read that if you have allergies you can have too much histamine and this causes the penis to become really sensitive? Also i have had physicals in the past for sports and i have been told that i have protein in my urine, could this have anything with having to much histimine? Maybe it could be a mental thing tho i am not sure, i have a hard time not thinking about getting pleasure because often the feeling is too great unless i have been drinking which helps me to last longer. Any info would be great, thanks!

wohoo19m
05-17-2005, 07:25 AM
Nop, talking about the Reverse trap jelq.

ultraborn
05-22-2005, 07:55 PM
Is there a video for it? Don't fret, I won't go on to that exercise, my baseball bat seems to be about gone so I won't need it. But I need to know how to do it just in case.

wohoo19m
05-23-2005, 05:31 AM
No there's no video, that I know of anyway. But it's described on the advanced exercises forum.

Hardywerker
05-26-2005, 09:56 PM
hello good people....please i need some motivation,helpadvice..anything...sumting scary has just happened to me today......here goes...

i wake up to day in an attempt to measure my erected penis lenght...i masturbated myself...then it happened........i EJECULATED WHEN MY PENIS IS ONLY 60-70% ERECTED!.....what the hell?!?!? and then i tried agin 1/2 hour later and still the same.....whats going on!?!??! i used to have no problem getting rock hard erections...and the thing is it is since ive been peing....and im like too young (19+) to have this problem? i started peing around 2 weeks ago....150jelqs,20 min shlongs and pc flexes and warm ups......the first week i during jelqs i was easily erected to hard rock...then this week which is secong week i jelq 150 times and did not get to a hard rock state....is it natural for a newbie????....and additional info,(ive not masterbated since i start peing and ive been realli exhausted from work these past few days).....could u kind people give me advice? im realli demoralised right now....i mean im reali never been this down....what have i done? i just wanted a larger penis for my future wife to enjoy.....

Vine
05-26-2005, 10:09 PM
Holy shit dude! Don't panic!
I can see why this is so alarming for you, but I really don't think you have all that much to worry about.

First of all, when you tried to get hard to measure, did you furiously stimulate yourself? I mean, it didn't just get hard right away, (like before), right? This is likely because of all the PE work you put it through...and are still very much getting accustomed to. Am I right?

Your unit was probably so sore/shocked from all the exercises, that it just didn't have the steam left to get rock hard...not even before ejaculating. I've had that happen too...usually when it's been overworked. Like you, I only ever used to ejaculate when at 100% erect.
What you described is perfectly normal, even at your age...it's just a sign that the PEing is really working your dick.

Give the PEing another two weeks, make sure you're getting a day of rest from PE every 3rd or 4th day (2-3 days rest per week), and try to get hard and measure again on an off day...preferrably after not having ejaculated that same day. This should put you in a better position to get hard without stressing your unit.

Once your body and mind get used to all the PC work and its effects down there, you should have better control as well. Everything is still new for you. Give it some time. Your body and mind need time to adapt to all the PEing.

Big Vine

Hardywerker
05-26-2005, 11:25 PM
ohkie....but the thing is as of this morning, its off day number two.....but i did try furiously to get solid hard to measure and it blew out of proportion....so is it naturally accurence due to my buddy down there getting used to the exercises?
cause u know before peing my penis can stand so hard it could even get into more that 50 degrees angle upwards.....and hmmm i did get that erection when i just wake up this morning(asusual).....i realli hope its not anything serious....and realli hope its just what big vine says...my buddy is still exhausting from the peing.....oh gosh i was about to get started on a more long term towards a healthy penis peing program..and this happen....cheeeze....i am reali feeling down

wohoo19m
05-27-2005, 05:47 AM
My opinion is that it has more to do with your being out of energy than with pe. I've found that when I'm tired I can't get as hard as I'd like. So maybe that's just it. You need more rest, as in sleep. Also, you say you haven't masturbated in 2 weeks, that isn't really good, since masturbation is good for the prostate. I know that most of the time, I'm just aching to jerk off on my off days :D

Hardywerker
05-27-2005, 09:20 PM
Ohkie...i was exhausted from a weeks work with onli one day off...and combined with the peing my buddy must be exhausted too...right ..ill keep peing towards a healthy penis and keep positive...thanks Big Vine and wohoo19m....i appreciate ur thoughts.....

kowboi
05-28-2005, 06:31 AM
God is that you, it's me Margaret....

ok, the jokes over...

do you have a God complex?

Think God is funny?

What's with the God as a handle?

location - heaven

holy cow that's freaking stupid

by the way, I'd like to think:

#1 that God wouldn't be trying to hock some cheap penis spray on ebay just to make extra money on the side.
#2 God wouldn't need to make his penis bigger with PE.

just my freaking opinion, you obviously have a different one that me :confused:

LookingforLengt
05-28-2005, 07:11 AM
I am with you on this one... even when i masterbate i am done within a minute or two... even the second time around I only last like a minute or two longer.....


I am not sure what it is but I am trying to take deep breathes cause I hear the more oxygen you have in your system the less sensitive you are and the longer you can last.... for example.. if you hold your breathe you will cum a lot faster(which is why some girls like to be strangled a little).... I am also going to try PC flexes and trying to last longer while i masterbate....

I don't know about you guys though but i found that my skin all over my body is really sensitive to heat and cold .... not sure if this is relevant.. but maybe i just have really sensitive skin and that relates to my premature ejaculation problem.... anyone think there could be a connection here?? And if there is a way besides Gods! spray that could densensitize my skin in general??


anywayz.. i hope the first part helps and i hope someone can help me with the second part... best of luck!

Vine
05-28-2005, 12:56 PM
I don't know about you guys though but i found that my skin all over my body is really sensitive to heat and cold .... not sure if this is relevant.. but maybe i just have really sensitive skin and that relates to my premature ejaculation problem.... anyone think there could be a connection here??

And if there is a way besides Gods! spray that could densensitize my skin in general??

I think there's definitely a connection. It's like when you first plunge your dick into a pussy...man, that warmth really gets things standing at attention in a hurry! Of course, with masturbation too, you're stroking, etc., which adds heat to the mix, so I can definitely see a connection there too.

Moderators: Please take care of this God! fella. His posts about that damn spray are pissing me off too. Wohoo, I believe it was, already warned him about this sort of advertising the first time he posted about it. (He's had 2 posts thus far...and yes, you guessed it, they're both about advertising that damn spray).
Please do us all a favor and address this matter.

Thanks.
Big Vine

kowboi
05-29-2005, 07:32 AM
ok you make it sound like: you were just sitting there jerking off and next thing you know, your cum was everywhere. Is that the case or did you actually have an orgasm.

I ask this question because, I had something happen to me a year or two ago. I was pe-ing and making some good gains. Whenever I"d jerk off or have sex, I'd be doing my thing approaching the orgasm and all of a sudden my spunk had hit the fan so to speak.....Then I'd have the physical sensation of the orgasm. This happened every time i jerked off or had sex for a bout a month. I was very concerned as you are.

I stopped the pe for a while and tried to retrain my pc muscle to release with the orgasm. It worked fine after a week or so of trying to get them synched.

GlenninRI
05-29-2005, 08:30 AM
Why is the registered user who goes by the name (GOD) allowed to advertise his ebay products in this site??

turtle
05-29-2005, 09:53 AM
Not anymore, it was just deleted. Thanks for pointing it out.
turtle

Hardywerker
05-29-2005, 09:10 PM
yeah i did had an orgasm sesnsation...anyway ive contacted u privately...thanks all for ur thoughts..u guys are GREAT!

skyking
06-15-2005, 04:44 PM
Good advise on working the PE out. Super wet jelqing all the way off the head will help, cuz you will start to get accustomed to the extreme sensations it produces. Also, try slowing down with your lady and think about only pleasing her and you will get yours in return. :D

Senses03
06-26-2005, 11:16 AM
Hi all ,

I had Premature Ejaculation problem. maybe due to too much masturbation. Need some help and advise. Can i know how to start first ? Hope to get some advise on penis enlargement oso.

Thanks.

falcon
06-26-2005, 05:18 PM
Flexing your PC muscle called Kegels will help.

Falcon

turtle
06-26-2005, 07:52 PM
Just thought I would tell you something a little more specific. You want to do at least 300 pc flexes, kegals, per day. Each flex should be held for 2 to 3 seconds. Do a set of 50 six different times during the day. These are done flacid. You can be sitting at your desk, commuting to work, whatever. Just do a set of 50 multiple times during the day. If you want to do more add multiple sets of 10 reps with each flex lasting 10 seconds. Do these for a few months and you will get much better control over things.
turtle

Senses03
06-26-2005, 08:19 PM
kegal how to do it ? how is it started ? wt the procedures ?

wohoo19m
06-27-2005, 05:41 AM
You know when you want to stop the flow of urine? You squeeze a muscle right? Well that muscle is the PC, and what you do when you stop the flow, is basically a kegel.

mpaone12
06-27-2005, 10:01 AM
Hey Hawskter,

How much gains did you make with just ProSolution pills? How/when did you take the pills throughout the day?

That really excites me, because I've had to stop PEing due to an injury, and I'm hoping the pills can still help somewhat.

Thanks kindly.

Senses03
06-28-2005, 07:33 PM
Hi god u try with the Dragon spray and u hv sex with condom or no ? How long does it last u ?

kensh85
07-24-2005, 07:11 PM
Hey guys, first time poster here, and i've been reading threads and it looks like a good thing going here. Anyways, I've got a bit of a problem when it comes to controlling my orgasm. Its fine when i wear a condom, i can go for pretty long, in fact most of the time my gf stops it cuz shes getting sore... but the moment we go without a condom, im done in like 2 minutes maybe, i lasted 5-6 minutes once and that was the longest. Im thinking its not psychological because i dont have a problem with a condom.. maybe im just really sensitive? Anything you guys think can help me out here? maybe doing the PC flexing exercises? Any help would be appreciated.. thanks!

And could someone please post a link on how to do proper PC exercises? I've looked around but cant find instructions. Oh and by that i mean for a beginner, like i barely know what the PC muscle is :confused: haha thanks!

Taryn
07-28-2005, 01:31 PM
Hey Kensh,

You're on the right track, brah. I had the same problems in my early 20's. And PC flexes help greatly in that area.

Next time you go to the bathroom, try stopping the flow of urine. That muscle your flexing to stop the flow is the PC. This exercise let's you know exactly what muscle your trying to flex. Start and stop the flow a couple more times so you can center yourself on that particular muscle.

Key thing when working out the PC is not to tense your abdomen while doing it, otherwise you'll just end up exhausting your midsection and really do nothing for your stamina. Rock hard abs are great, but a big wang is much better:)

You can do kegels anywhere, at any time, without much problem. If you have an erection when you do them, you'll notice your penis jumping around (girls find this hilarious and it can greatly ease the anxiety of sex to laugh about it with her/them)

After a couple weeks of a consistent flexing (200-300 reps a day), you'll find your erections will be phenomenally harder and your stamina will increase. Hell, do it enough and you'll be able to become multi-orgasmic. But that takes some work.

Hope this helps...

woodee
08-02-2005, 05:06 PM
Hi Guys,

This really concerns me. There's at least one website out there that appears to be based on some sound scientific / medical principles that says jelqing or stretching by any means, whether manually or via traction extenders, or lots of masturbation, is the last thing a guy should do if he wants to avoid weak erections and premature ejaculation problems.

The site appears to have a sizable :) following, and is run by a guy who holds an engineering PhD from Berkeley among other credentials. . . . not that that necessarily means anything, but it does provide some measure of technical credence over many of the "just believe us and you'll get (you fill in benefit)" type sites.

Many cases of stretching-induced erectile dysfunction are described actionlove. Scroll the links on the left side and check out some of the "Penile _____" topics.

In addition, it says that efforts to develop the PC muscle, e.g. by doing Kegels, are completely misguided and will actually lead to a condition that triggers premature ejaculation, since the PC in a healthy male isn't used to hold an erection or prevent ejaculation in the first place.

This is serious stuff - Thoughts anyone??



The URL was edited out because this website does not collaborate with the Mens-Network and its affiliates. :cool:

turtle
08-02-2005, 05:14 PM
Actionlove is the biggest joke on the web. The guy has a PhD in Engineering, so he says. What in the hell does that prove. Read his site, it's a complete sell job. All of PE is total bullshit, but he will sell you products that fix things. If you believe his site then I have a very nice bridge that I want to sell you. Wake up! actionlove is a complete moneymaking scam and a total joke, and Dr. Linn doesn't know a thing about PE.
turtle

ChronDick
08-02-2005, 05:26 PM
Hey there woodee, you are not the first to bring up this actionlove Dr guy before, in fact there was a rather long thread about him and his bullshit on this forum somewhere.

I will agree heavily with turtle on this one, its just a bunch of shit, I am sure he is banking it from that site though, which was his only intention, but our intention here at the Mens-Netork forum is to help each other, and get our cocks naturally huge!!! :p

Good Luck, If you get into PE you will know that the actionlove is full of shit, lord knows I love my new cock!

Chron

anth1225
08-02-2005, 05:55 PM
first u got to ask yourself what qualifies him as an expert in this field?
Engineering?

Why not have a gardner w/ a phd in ornamental horticulture then?

I can't make heads or tails out of his site. Poor communication skills, not very organized.

Seems he's got lots of stuff to sell. Maybe he'll try selling PSP? LOL

woodee
08-02-2005, 08:27 PM
Thx for your input guys.

I hear ya when it comes to credentials not necessarily meaning anything. . . . but OTOH one could say that just because the guy (Dr. Lin) seems to be hocking something at every turn doesn't necessarily mean his products or statements aren't worth anything (which I can't vouch for, not having tried them).

But you'll understand my concerns re a weak salute and premature ejaculation, right? Believe me, I wouldn't give a shit about some temporary, i.e. couple days, erectile dysfunction caused by whatever enlargement method if the payoff is another inch of dick :)

What gives me the willies is the possibility in the future of not being able to sustain a hard erection because of stretchin' & wankin' type exercises. And Lin's site has an appreciable number of case studies (which I can't confirm, but they seem authentic) from people who've reported not-so-trivial erectile and ejaculatory problems attributed to penile workouts.

Can I ask you guys straight on - - Have any of you noticed any decrease in how long you can sustain a really hard one, and hold your glue when it matters most, i.e. plunging in & out of your sweetie?

I haven't started on the exercises yet, however I have been using a traction extender for a couple weeks now and the soldier goes dead for at least a day after each traction period - Whenever I try to work the guy up during this period I can't even get him half-hard and still end up shooting (dribbling actually) 30 seconds into the stroking game - That ain't no confidence booster, know what I mean?

THAT'S the concern I've got for these stretching / milking / yanking / contracting exercises. What gives??

And you guys who have been developing your PCs - Have you noticed any decrease in your ability to hold off ejaculation and sustain an erection, not just a limpy that gets the job done, but a nice hard one?

Any comments appreciated, TIA !

ChronDick
08-03-2005, 12:22 AM
Hey there woodee,

Let me bring you up to date with me and my PE experiences, I started about 1 year ago. And so much has changed since then.

I used to have sex on a regular basis, prePE, I was commited with a girly and we probably had sex 2-3 times a week, if not more. Now the sex was good, the sex was really good for me, I know she was liking it cause I would go down on her EVERYTIME because I wantd to make her come before I did, that way I wouldn't have to worry about it. And then it became the usual. I would go down, give her superb head, and then I would stick it in for a maximum of 5 minutes before I blew my load. Well one day I was cruizing some porn sites and Peter-North had an advertising for Penis-Health.com. I was very sure it was just a gimmick to get me to spend money. So I blew it off, but periodically went back to it, and I never really cared about size, I just wanted to be able to fuck all night long and not blow my load.

One day after having sex I was over it, I wanted to last longer, and I know it was going to require some advice, so I said FUCK IT, WHAT DO I HAVE TO LOSE? 50 bux? I used to spend that every 3 days on a sack of weed just to smoke it, why not try spending 50 bux for a lifetime membership so I can see if this shit truly works, if I was blowing money on drugs might as well blow it on tempting to get a bigger and longer lasting cock.

Well, that was probably the best decision I have ever made in my entire life. Since then I have yanked, tugged, pulled, twisted, jelqed my cock about 3-5 times a week. I told my girly at the time we were not going to have sex for a month, never told her why, just wanted to see if she would notice a difference. Well, I made it 23 days, and she was just begging for it, so we had sex, I was thinking, god I haven't had sex in so long I am going to blow so quick, so I stuck to my usual routine, giving her oral, then right as she starts to come diving in, well to my suprise when I dove in I went much deeper, and held my breath for much longer, approx 30 min. Afterword she says I dunno what you have been doing but keep doing it. :p

I have never had one problem sustaining an erection. I have never been able to last as long as I do now.

Simply put, try to excersizes for one month, see if you get results, if your not satisfied then stop doing them. I don't see what anyone has to lose.

As far as the PC muscle goes, click on the Get ROCK hard on my sig, it will also tell you my starting and current sizes.

Good Luck, and may your gains come soon!

Chron

Mudrubble
08-03-2005, 10:19 AM
I'll say that I've been doing the exercises for about 3 weeks or so now. I have seen gains already. Everyday. Not just after exercising. I had the best sex in years last night, where I pumped HARD and WELL, and well-coordinated, for over an hour, without the slightest urge to blow. When I did, it was by choice, and felt better than any other release in years. My girl told me flat out that it was thicker, longer, and much harder. I was using a condom, and felt as well as if I were bareback. I pulled it out several times to check it didn't rip (ONLY USE MAXX CONDOMS NOW, don't even fuck with anything that kills sensation). It didn't rip. It just felt good. My girl came (in her own words) at LEAST 4 or 5 times. My neighbour upstairs got out of bed, frustrated at the noise level. My PC was so clamped through a lot of it, that I wasn't in ANY risk of cumming, and when I did, it shot out. If I weren't in a condom, it might have flown six feet, the way it busted out. I'll save the rest for another thread, but here's what I'll say, if this is after only 3 weeks, I'll keep it up for 6-12 months!!!

I sell NOTHING on the net, or off the net. I stand NOTHING to gain by lying. You don't even know me, so no need for me to brag. That is the solid truth above. If you ask my girl, you'll get LOTS more praise than that. That is actually being a little humble above. I am straight breaking her DOWN in bed. Feel like a 21 year old king. So, no, it doesn't cause premature ejaculation, not in my experience! Weak erections?? Get outta here!

Maybe dude was doing some other dangerous exercises, or maybe he didn't go easy at first, and bursted something? I don't know. If you start calmly, remembering how much your dick means to you and NEVER DO ANYTHING YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH (don't "try some new move" out on your one and only dick, unless you do it SLOWLY, CAREFULLY, WITH ATTENTION, and EASE OFF if it feels wrong!), I can't see what can really go wrong. Not only is my shit slightly bigger and more easily controlled, it is STRONGER. It looks stronger, but it IS stronger!!

Good Luck!

wohoo19m
08-04-2005, 04:12 PM
I've been doing it for 2 years and I'm harder than ever, even when flaccid. His site is a joke. He's trying to scare you, taking advantage of our tendency to critique something like this and turning it to his favor. If you want proof that PE doesn't cause you to go limp well stick around. As a bonus, from PE, now even if I blow my load fast, I can stay hard ( or get hard again ) in record time able to go for a second go at it.

Momo
08-04-2005, 11:26 PM
PE gives you harder, thicker, heavier, longer, more powerful erections, and trains you to NOT do the premature ejaculation thing. *cough* end of discussion. :)

JoeyNess
08-14-2005, 02:10 PM
I heard that male porn stars have the highest rate of ED

justalittlebit
08-21-2005, 04:01 PM
Hey, im new to the forum and to PE. i have used the search functions and read numerous posts on prematue ejaculation and how to solve it. just wanting some advice really. When i masturbate i can last anywhere up to an hour, but if im having sex with my GF it's liturelly minutes.(got worse over last few month) its getting quite annoying as you would guess. i see this as bein in my head. just wondering if anyone has had this problem and has solved it?? any advice would be greatful.

ChronDick
08-23-2005, 01:56 PM
Next time you have sex try putting your head in the mindstate that your in when you masturbate. Does sound like its in your head.

I used to be like that too, I would get all excited at the fact that I was having sex and would just let the pure feeling of sex take over me and blow my load in minutes, now I have the mindset of pleasing the woman and concentrating on her rather than me, seems to help.

Also work out your PC muscle.

Chron

justalittlebit
08-26-2005, 05:16 AM
Hey Chron,

Thanks for the reply, i try getting into the mind set but as happened to you ya think of it so much before hand that when it happens, ya just come straight away. ive been exercising my pc muscle a lot, but for some reason i am hitting the point a lot sooner. would the pro solution pills have anything to do with it?? how did you get out of the mind set? did you ever use zolof or whatever it is?

Cheers

ChronDick
08-27-2005, 06:58 PM
No I never used anything besides PE.

And as far as mindset goes I used to workup my mind to sex, and then when I had it I could only concentrate on my Penis and the feelings it was recieving, I then looked at a different approach, and concentrated on the woman and her, her moans and grunts and her face and just making sure she was having a good time.

Seemed to help me.

Chron

ladder
09-16-2005, 02:27 AM
i really need to know how to do kegels.,do they work for premature ejac?gone mad from it.dont trust any of the medication it all seems dodgy[/B]

ladder
09-16-2005, 02:24 PM
i have it and i want rid of it.its wreaking my life.what do kegels do to help.has anyone ever been cured of premature ejaculation? i last about a minute to 3 mins
get back to me plz as soon as possible .

longhoped
09-16-2005, 02:54 PM
Practice and think positive...I go for hours dude, I had the problem at one point in my life, and it didn't last long because I was always thinkin like a champ....if you go in tha pussy thinkin i hope i dont embarass myself, and im only goin to last 3 min, well what do you thinks gonna happen...go in there thinkin im bout to tear this shit up, and give her somethin to think about all day...think that everytime...

longhoped
09-16-2005, 02:57 PM
oh and a few other things to help...get you some stamina rx, and some trojan extended pleasures...if that dont work....then stick to jerkin it...nah that really should help man, the rx will give you rock hard cock, and obviously the stamina, and the trojan extended....well will make you last longer as well...tear it up bro

ps only take 1 or 2 at a time...if you have heart probs, talk to a doc...but it makes your heart pump

wolf16g
09-16-2005, 03:48 PM
Basically a kegel is a squeeze with your PC muscle. You do a kegel when you pee, when you stop the stream, that's a kegel. When you push out your pee that's a reverse kegel.If you need more info search the forum type in keywords in the Search, up above.
Keywords like Kegel, PC Killer, Premature Ejaculation. Hope this helps.

ScottMN
09-16-2005, 07:59 PM
The mind is a HUGE part of premature ejaculation, if you can learn to calm yourself, this will help a lot.

PC exercises help by training and strengthening the muscle that controls your ejaculation. Best thing to do is try something like the PC Killer. look it up in the search box. This is a great routine and will surely help...

longhoped
09-18-2005, 08:10 AM
I'm not exactly sure if its good to start out doing a lot of Pc excersises starting off...I think they should gradually be worked up, beause I had more probs doing them rather not...

Its like workin out dude...you work out and your chest and arms are gonna be sore for a few days, and not be as strong and good. well same thing with your cock, if you never worked your PC out, its gonna be like workin your chest the first time...your not gonna feel a lot of soreness but, i think your erection wont be as strong...so dont start with the killers...do like 150, 200 regular pc clamps for 2 weeks...then start doing the dif excersises...they get boring but just think you can do them whenever, and wherever...so you really have no excuse not to do them

ScottMN
09-19-2005, 02:08 PM
yep good call

newman
09-20-2005, 04:15 PM
mate
buy a bottle of stud 100. spray it well on ( i mean really cover your weapon) about 30- 45 mins before action and break your bed.

I have been using it for 7 years now.
never disappointed.

thanks

ScottMN
09-21-2005, 05:17 PM
what's it do?

newman
09-21-2005, 08:09 PM
what's it do?


it will desensitize you penis!
its worth a try.

ScottMN
09-22-2005, 02:38 PM
ahh interesting ok. you can still hold an erection np I suppose?

newman
09-22-2005, 07:04 PM
yeha of cos i can

But iam a reqular fit bloke. I do work out and all but as well all know it also depends of the activity before sex. like proper meal, sleep or health and all.

So yeah put forward what ever you got.

thanks

newman
09-24-2005, 11:22 PM
all please respond to
http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7583

vandel
09-29-2005, 03:35 PM
If this is the best aid for stoping premature ejaculation I was wondering where is the best place to get it. If anyone else knows any other products that work that would be great thanks



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vandel
10-04-2005, 08:05 PM
WEll post them her boys i need to know

Id like to get a detailed description to all the ways to stopping them.

Ive heard that pulling it until about to cum then stop is a good way to stop it I was just wondering how to do this liek do i do untill im about to cum then stop then wait for how long then do it again. and also do i just never finnish just keep doing that and never cum unless im having sex. I just wanna know everyhting I can about stopping this I want to be a sex machine I am fully deicated to doing this I wanna make sure I leave a lasting impression on any girl im with and for the right reason cause im the man in bed not a boy so post themPLEASE

chillen6985
10-04-2005, 08:48 PM
i have read that while you are masterbating you wait til you are about to come and 8 out of 10 then you start pc flexing until it goes away then do this like 5 times and then let her go. i have tired this and it seems to strangthen the prostate nicely.
there is always doing lots of pc flexes all the time to strangthen to but i dont really like them. maybe thats why i am not getting the gains i want?

what seems to work best for me is the first time i have sex i just try to go as long as possible. but just have sex like 10 min later and lots less testosterone easier to hold her in.

something i also have done is put a movie on during sex ( not a porn) and just in your head repeat all the words the that are said in the movie and it takes you mind off what you are doing and as long as you can keep focus on the words focus get off very easy

Irresistible
10-05-2005, 10:29 AM
U can try this. When u masturbate, when u want to cum, hold it.When U want to cum again, hold on. Hold on to avoid ejaluaate for at leat 5 times. Practise twice a week. It will help u control your ejaluation!!

rideout
10-05-2005, 11:10 AM
working your PC muscle will stop it.
So Pc flexes and while your pissing stop and hold it for a few secs then start again try to do this alot when u piss.
Do a search on PC killer as well.

Beat_the_Myth
10-05-2005, 02:56 PM
Your PC is your best bet, way better than withdrawal. There are guys here that can have multiple orgasms without spilling a drop.

chillen6985
10-05-2005, 04:57 PM
i have read that while you are masterbating you wait til you are about to come and 8 out of 10 then you start pc flexing until it goes away then do this like 5 times and then let her go. i have tired this and it seems to strangthen the prostate nicely.
there is always doing lots of pc flexes all the time to strangthen to but i dont really like them. maybe thats why i am not getting the gains i want?

what seems to work best for me is the first time i have sex i just try to go as long as possible. but just have sex like 10 min later and lots less testosterone easier to hold her in.

something i also have done is put a movie on during sex ( not a porn) and just in your head repeat all the words the that are said in the movie and it takes you mind off what you are doing and as long as you can keep focus on the words focus get off very easy

ya i think the numbing condoms work good but some time they make you go limp not fucking good

Grudge
10-14-2005, 08:42 AM
How could someone have multiple orgasms? Everytime i masturbate and i dont cum, i may try it agian but it will hurt like a bitch. So i just naturally thought that once your orgasm, its done becuz tis gonna start hurting as soon as you start to stimulate it again. Do they do this just by putting in hard work on there PC Muscle?

Beat_the_Myth
10-14-2005, 01:38 PM
That's basically it. Here, just read this: http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6903

You should really use the forum search, it's faster and easier.

SIRVEY22
10-15-2005, 11:48 AM
BEAT THE MYTH how come when i click on ur link it says i must be a registered user to view it and i obvuilsy am since im logged in and it just wont let me read ur thread what can i search it under ?

Edward
10-15-2005, 05:01 PM
BEAT THE MYTH how come when i click on ur link it says i must be a registered user to view it and i obvuilsy am since im logged in and it just wont let me read ur thread what can i search it under ?

:) SIRVEY22

You need to change your Security Settings to accept cookies to make use of the Forum's functions.

I hope this helps. :)

Beat_the_Myth
10-15-2005, 05:16 PM
What Eddy said.

SIRVEY22
10-19-2005, 05:23 PM
Is It Safe To Do Pc Flexes Before Sex ( I Do About 300 Spread Out Through The Day) Or Does It Wear The Pc Muscle Out To Much And Cuase You To Perform Poorly In Bed Due To The Overworked Muscle ?

Vine
10-20-2005, 01:56 AM
Depends on how long it typically takes you to cum during intercourse.

If you ejaculate pre-maturely, then doing some PC flexes prior to intercourse might help you to prolong things.

If you have the opposite problem and it takes you a while to cum, then the PC flexes immediately before intercourse are likely to tire you out too much to cum within a reasonable time-frame...and you'll probably just end up frustrated.

Ultimately you're the only one who will be able to answer this for yourself. Try experimenting a bit and do, say, 50 PC flexes before intercourse and see what the effect is (if any), then take it from there...
Do more flexes the next time if 50 doesn't seem like enough, etc...

Hope this helps.
Big Vine

SuperSizeMe
10-24-2005, 12:43 AM
I'm assuming when you use this stuff, if you used like 15min before sex and your woman decided to give you head first that it would numb her mouth? Seems kinda obvious but I'm just wondering weather it is non-tranferable if it has been absorbed by the penis? Thanks

SuperSizeMe
10-24-2005, 12:44 AM
And by the way that Stud 100 spray is all over Ebay and it is prety cheap.

newman
10-24-2005, 08:52 AM
I'm assuming when you use this stuff, if you used like 15min before sex and your woman decided to give you head first that it would numb her mouth? Seems kinda obvious but I'm just wondering weather it is non-tranferable if it has been absorbed by the penis? Thanks


good point bro.

When Iam have a quicky kinna thing like after clubbing or something then I just spary it on 30 mins before action and then go for it.
But if Iam with my woman at home in bed then I spray it on wait for a desirable time until my Penis is totally desenitised and then I wash it off.
After that its a full party with whatever.

The spray is absorbed by your penis but you will still have residue on it. So its better to wash it off with a little soap and lots of water.

hope helps.

ScottMN
10-24-2005, 02:39 PM
great info, thanks bro

SuperSizeMe
10-24-2005, 07:53 PM
Yea. Thanks a lot for the info.

plbenj
10-26-2005, 03:12 AM
hi guys,wala po akong alam sa usapan nyo...sorry..

moleskin
10-26-2005, 03:13 AM
I could be wrong but I used to suffer with all different types of ejaculation!!

I had once gone on for 2.5 hours - although was thoroughly ruined afterwards hehe - but then I had been known to go on for barely 2 mins another time!!!

Now I know when I masturbate that I can masturbate in about 1 min flat!!! (from erect to ejaculation) now the problem is when I have masturbated like this in the past it is normally a pretty intense session - forget the marathon it is the 100metre dash for gratification! Also it never feels that great either. Now I have also taken my time with masturbation before as well, the trick is to gain control over the bits man. Why go for the full dash to cross the line, when you can enjoy it so much more.

I tended to relay this into my sexual thinking. With one of my partners we just went mad like rabbits, 5 mins later all over!! However I learned to take my time, and if I felt close, slowed down got some close hugging going on, maybe changed positions, took notice of my partners body for a bit. Sex isn't just about the thrust, well maybe for girls! When you know how to control your body, slow down the process, divert the attention away - only for a few seconds, then go back to it. Don;t go in there like a raging bull.

Before getting down to it, tease her something mental, make her wait for it, get her so stimulated she is ready to explode man, then if you only last 5 mins, she will love every minute of it.

The best thing to do is relax and enjoy it, I was lasting so long the other night I was actually concerned it wouldn't happen!! Enjoy the whole experience of sex chap - you will get a greater appreciation for it. Perhaps have a couple of alcoholic drinks before you get down to it - helps to relax you and also dulls your nervous system slightly!! Rather than worry about yourself, try focussing your attention on pleasing your partner.

Anyway hope some of them tips help, of course feel free to try some of the other advice - but as someone pointed out - some of it is mind over matter!!

Good luck

moleskin
10-31-2005, 06:52 AM
Used to have a similar problem some years back - I put it down to the missus at the time but since then I have learnt a few things which have definately helped me chap!!!

Firstly - when you are so worried about yourself it is over in no time!!!

I used to get so worked up about how I was feeling that it used to be over in double quick time - never great. Learn to work off the female of the species - try focussing on her. When you switch your focus you can switch the feeling from your own satisfaction onto hers - although if she is screaming through passion this can only work as a turn on hehe!!!

Take your time. I used to go into sex like it was a race - over stimulation can make most men cum very quickly my old chap. Start slowly, aim to go deep - use your hands to explore her body!!! Stop during sex and hold onto her when the tension builds. Add this into your sex and she will think it is part of the routine - gives you a good break both physically and mentally!!

Relax, try cuddling before hand or chatting over a bottle of wine. Alcohol suppresses the nervous system some what and most men will last longer after 1-2 drinks then normally. Going into sex with something on your mind (Premature Ejac) will only raise your awareness of how you are doing.

Sex is about more than the thrusting action my friend. It is about touching and caressing her body as well. Intercourse may only last a few mins but the whole event starts earlier and then you have the chilled out moments after sex.

Wind her up big style through teasing and stimulating her - if she is so up for it she won;t care if you last a minute or an hour - she will just want to make you cum hard!!!

Last night I made love to my girl, 5 time in 3 days - I lasted about an hour - whole event was about 2.5 hours long. During the sex I controlled when I came, I stopped, held it back, swapped positions, relaxed and generally enjoyed it. There were times when I sped up, slowed down, I fed off her stimulation. By not worrying about myself I was able to perform for her - when I thought she was well stimulated then I went to work on finishing the job. Well actually I swapped positions and got her to do all the hard work as I was quite tired.

As soon as you can learn to appreciate sex for more than the intercourse you will find you will be able to lots more. Masturbation can be a key training tool - I can knock one out in about 3 mins or less - but then I could also drag it out over an hour. If you can control the way you masturbate you can control the way you have sex. The key is to stay in control, if you control sex for the first 15mins - then leave it up to her to finish you off - she will love it as well!!

Good luck man - keep us posted!! :sm15

funsounds
11-02-2005, 04:48 PM
as a last resort...

-SS Cream from South Korea has shown efficacy (getting to the states is the problem)
-SSRI (selective seratonin re-uptake inhibitors)...clomipramine (Anafranil), sertraline (Zoloft), paroxetine (Paxil), fluoxetine (Prozac)
-sildenafil citrate (Viagra) has also shown to have some efficacy in treating premature ejaculation with some patients

According to published studies, on-demand clomipramine, 25 mg, provided a five-fold increase in latency; sertraline increased ejaculatory latency by over 5 minutes compared with placebo; and latency time for paroxetine was 5.8 minutes versus 36 seconds for placebo. Sildenafil citrate has shown to be just as effective as the SSRI's in some patients.

As for SS-Cream...In the screening period, the mean ejaculatory latency was assessed at 1.37 +/- 0.12 minutes, and neither the patients nor their partners were satisfied with their sexual lives. After treatment, the mean ejaculatory latency was prolonged to 2.45 +/- 0.29 minutes in the placebo group and 10.92 +/- 0.95 minutes in the SS-cream group.

Flounder
11-25-2005, 01:31 PM
Lo all,

just been experiencing a problem since i can remember ... while having intercourse im unable to ejaculate. I just dont seem to be able to do it ? what could be wrong ... its been 1 year with my current girlfriend and still no luck we dont really have sex often tho so I guess its a bonus so i dont disappoint

godsmack
11-25-2005, 01:33 PM
well, at least you wont get her pregnant with out her wanting to

Big Al
11-25-2005, 02:03 PM
You can try the "Stop and Start" exercise (details below), but instead of trying to prolong your ejaculation, you should try to ejaculate as quickly as possible using the lightest grip that you can. That'll cause your ejaculatory threshold to drop, and you'll be able to ejaculate more quickly.

The Stop and Start Method


Another common problem that some men have is premature ejaculation. Some cases of premature ejaculation can be solved using the simple “Stop and Start” exercise. The Stop and Start exercise can be performed with a partner, but at best it's performed alone.

To begin, simply start by masturbating or if you are using a partner, begin having sex- an important note if you are using a partner- you must remain in full control while doing this exercise.

If your partner begins to move or tighten themselves up in any way, it will interfere with your concentration.

Proceed up until the point right before you ejaculate, THEN STOP! Rest a bit until you feel you are starting to lose your erection then proceed to start and stop two more times. AFTER the third time, you may ejaculate if you wish.

What you are doing with this exercise is building up endurance. As time goes by, your first sensation of ejaculation should take longer to achieve. It's important to try to practice this exercise everyday if you are having problems with premature ejaculation.

calfan95661
11-28-2005, 01:02 PM
I stumbled across L-Meth as a histamine inhibitor and when I saw this post I was encouraged to start using it. How long does it typically take for the L-Meth start working so I can start enjoying delayed ejaculations ??

Nobiggy
11-29-2005, 04:11 PM
When you get the feeling, stop and think of something else while you work her boobs and or her clit till the feeling goes away. You would be surprised how long you can last doing that. Sometimes you will really have to work to blow your load after you master that technique. That work for me and it has for years. If you masterbate practice it while you masterbate.

Dennis

Project_Moss
11-29-2005, 05:19 PM
Another reason you may be having this problem is you might have a weak pc muscle. Make sure you do a pc flex exercise which you can do at any time during the day. Then during sex if you feel your coming close to coming pull out for a moment flex your muscle for a few seconds then you should be ready to go again.

jesmulen
11-30-2005, 09:33 AM
Forget pills... my man it's patience... This may have been said already but maybe I can add to what someone else has added...

Actually, 20-30 min. isn't bad for women because most don't like going for long periods of time anyways. Honestly, I have to, at times remind myself to cum... before she starts to hurt... if she's going to cum she will regardless... some tips...

If you feel yourself getting too excited, stop, if she doesn't want you to, do it anyways with a hint of force, maybe hold her down and pull out and go straight to oral on her... keeps her stimulated and she may even like it more. Chances are she may have never experienced anything like that. Be original... Practice breathing and stop being too eager. More foreplay and avoid your "weak" positions.... mine is anything from behind, I just love asses...

Read tantra guides... pills say they help but they don't... avoid desentitizing creams or condoms because if you don't apply them right it may make her numb as well then you're screwed.

I hope this helps...

jesmulen
11-30-2005, 09:44 AM
maybe you're just terrified to ejaculate in her, so pull out and give her a money shot on her back or stomach or even her chest. Birds really like that porno style stuff (every once and a while).... I had this chick put her face to it and open her mouth...

Rock Solid
12-01-2005, 03:30 PM
Ok here is my story.... i started doing penis exercises obviously cause i have a small penis, but i wanted to get to somewhere around 6 inches to please my girlfriend. So after a month i saw some gains but i wanted more so i got pills and patches and i have been using them for a month now. Here is the problem.... my GF suggested sex without a condom and of course i was all for it. This was a big mistake, it was going to be my first sex in over a year and i could only last for a minute and a half, but i was great and she said it was great for that little amount of time... and i was rock solid no erection problems. we have tried two times since and i have had some erection dificulties and i have finished in less then a minute in both times. I was wondering if the the pills and patch could have some effect, is it all mental ( i am going crazy over it), and what can i do to stop myself from premature ejhaculation? please help

PSYCHES2012
12-04-2005, 08:17 PM
I think it may be a combo of thinks for you...excitement, if you masterbate quickly :sm24 and the time from its been for you with a girl.

Take it slow, dont rush things, foreplay more...she will love you for it.

Important: start doing PC flexes. This is what i do; squeeze 3 times then hold for three seconds, 100 times. Start increasing your 4 and 4 seconds, 5 and 5 seconds as you build your muscle. learn to control your ejaculation. Try going until 2 thrusts till your "point of no return" and then stop, and contract your pc muscles and hold it for 10-20 seconds (while your are in the process of climaxing also). after a few weeks of excercise, you should be able to notice a really big increase in your control. Keep doing it, and you will be able to have multiple orgasms, which is you orgasm, but dont ejaculate. You will be able to last for hours!!! Good luck and be dedicated to the excercises, trust me they work!

jesmulen
12-05-2005, 05:45 AM
switch it up... don't stay in one position for too long... more foreplay... maybe make her cum before intercourse in a sense it takes a lot of heat off of you. There are so many things you can do to last or to make things more exciting. I use to detach myself from the experience and focus on other things and seriously i would go for an hour or two (could've gone longer) so maybe try that.... but if you are the noisy type then keep that in mind.

kmc9104
12-13-2005, 02:41 PM
Try alot of different positions, that way your taking a little break in between getting ready for the next position style. Or if there is a certain postion that makes you go quickly then wait for that one last. Also don't be a jack hammer, hit it slow,fast slow, vary the rythem. Good luck!!

PSYCHES2012
12-13-2005, 10:46 PM
strengthen your pc muscles. I am uncircumcised, same prob long ago. Started doing pc work, not Im multi orgasmic. It works...stay dedicated, you will see results.

this helped me.

start doing 2-3 flex, then hold for 3 secs, work yourself up to 100, then try 4 flex 4 sec holds, so on and so forth. Within a few weeks, you will notice a big difference. stay dedicated. hope it helps

jackson_darell
12-20-2005, 03:56 PM
I use mandelay cream. However, if you put too much the penis becomes so damn numb that you lose erection.

SlimPimpin
12-25-2005, 12:36 AM
I agree in a sense. Sometimes when I think I'm getting close, I'll go back down and put the tongue on her for another minute or so and then go back in.

jackson_darell
12-26-2005, 07:42 PM
Its also a good idea to pull out when you feel you might ejaculate. then kiss and cuddle and when you think you are ok then go back in.

NJ240sxMan
12-27-2005, 08:49 AM
It may be something in your mind.

Are you concentrating on ejaculating?

Yes, it's a benefit that you'll never (negating leakage) get her pregnant before you want to, but it may be a disadvantage when you want to have children (if ever).

xyz_xiyi
12-27-2005, 02:54 PM
Hey whats up I have a problem.I cant last that long in bed.I can only go for 3-6 minutes maybe 10 if im lucky.If I drink an get a lil drunk I can go for 15-20 minutes on a good night.But sober i just cant last.Why is that?What can I do?Is there any pills or cream to help me with this problem.People have told me just to pull out for 15 seconds and then put it back in but then ill just nut in another minute.This is really embarrasing.I think it is imprtant to be able to last long.I think its more important to last long in bed then to have a bigger penis.What do you guys think??Also i am not circumcised does this make a difference in bed????I have a new Girlfriend and we havent started to have sex but we will in the next couple months.She is a girl with high standards and I know she will want to be statifyed in bed and I would love to satisfy her.What can i do.I really need help!!Somone help me.


Try the typical PE exercise. That might help you. If you are still not erected, try asking a doctor for an advice Or maybe better try asking some older members in here. They can help you big time.

jackson_darell
12-27-2005, 05:50 PM
Power jelq somehow has helped me with it. Also a shot of tequilla ( make it 2 ) before sex helps.

xyz_xiyi
12-27-2005, 06:18 PM
Can you explain how tequilla would help?

NJ240sxMan
12-27-2005, 07:51 PM
I guess he means the alcohol loosens some built up tension.

At least that's what I would suppose since guys generally say they last longer when under the influence of alcohol.

xyz_xiyi
12-28-2005, 09:15 AM
Do PC, and kegels. They helped me. I can last almost an hour long.

Master_Phil
12-31-2005, 02:23 AM
I have the same problem as the guy that started this thread (about not being able to last long in bed), and I appreciated the information that everyone gave. I will make sure to do those PC mucsle excersises. I hate being able to last only a few minutes, especially when it getting really good. Man, I hate that. Thanks for the advice, even though I didn't ask for it.

johnws6
12-31-2005, 11:51 AM
Hey whats up I have a problem.I cant last that long in bed.I can only go for 3-6 minutes maybe 10 if im lucky.If I drink an get a lil drunk I can go for 15-20 minutes on a good night.But sober i just cant last.Why is that?What can I do?Is there any pills or cream to help me with this problem.People have told me just to pull out for 15 seconds and then put it back in but then ill just nut in another minute.This is really embarrasing.I think it is imprtant to be able to last long.I think its more important to last long in bed then to have a bigger penis.What do you guys think??Also i am not circumcised does this make a difference in bed????I have a new Girlfriend and we havent started to have sex but we will in the next couple months.She is a girl with high standards and I know she will want to be statifyed in bed and I would love to satisfy her.What can i do.I really need help!!Somone help me.


If you want to last longer in bed go get yourself some B complex vitamins and take those on a daily basis, they will help a tremendous amount. Its the best way that i have found that helps to last as long as possible.

scobro
01-11-2006, 05:14 AM
The problem with this stud 100 spray is that you are now dependant on it for life.Get your body in control and you will as one member so elegantly put it "you will tear that shit up":sm25

canthink
01-11-2006, 02:16 PM
Anyone seen this site? Anyone tried it? It seems quite convincing, the only thing is that I couldn't see whether the effects are permanent or temporary, I don't think it said...maybe I missed it.
http://www.controlyourorgasms.com/


And another one:

http://www.stayerect.com/premature-ejaculation-goo.html/

Anyone tried either?

Jareth
01-11-2006, 03:13 PM
Anyone seen this site? Anyone tried it? It seems quite convincing, the only thing is that I couldn't see whether the effects are permanent or temporary, I don't think it said...maybe I missed it.
http://www.controlyourorgasms.com/


And another one:

http://www.stayerect.com/premature-ejaculation-goo.html/

Anyone tried either?
It means that you have NO control over ejaculation, it's a simple reflex. Obviously this guy has no idea what he's talkin about. You wanna stop premature stick to this site dont be fooled..

canthink
01-11-2006, 03:19 PM
I don't think you can argue that ejaculation is not a reflex. A reflex is an involuntary action, and I think you'll agree that when the time comes we do not ejaculate voluntarily - it just happens.

Jareth
01-11-2006, 03:22 PM
I don't think you can argue that ejaculation is not a reflex. A reflex is an involuntary action, and I think you'll agree that when the time comes we do not ejaculate voluntarily - it just happens.
I beg to differ. You can control time of ejaculation, and stamina. When i have sex there are multiple times when iam gonna cum and i can hold it... If u wanna take a chance on those sites than feel free, but if u want a healthier, bigger, and more productive dick than uve come to the right place..

canthink
01-11-2006, 04:01 PM
Well many guys, including me, can't control when we ejaculate so I'm just looking for better ways to help. I'm still doing pc flexes and exercising every day but it won't cure this problem easily. And it if does it will take a lot of time.
You never know, they could work.

Jareth
01-11-2006, 05:41 PM
Well many guys, including me, can't control when we ejaculate so I'm just looking for better ways to help. I'm still doing pc flexes and exercising every day but it won't cure this problem easily. And it if does it will take a lot of time.
You never know, they could work.
Well for me PC work effect my stamina in a bad way. I was overworking my pc leading to premature ejaculation. But they helped me with stronger erections, as well as able identify how to hold my nut. I have a thread in here PC work give it a look there is some good advice form Big Al as well as info from me..

wohoo19m
01-11-2006, 06:00 PM
Curing premature ejaculation isn't simply about the physical aspect of it, you also have to cure yourself mentally.

I've done it, to my great enjoyment , and my partners :sm24

Jareth
01-11-2006, 06:03 PM
Curing premature ejaculation isn't simply about the physical aspect of it, you also have to cure yourself mentally.

I've done it, to my great enjoyment , and my partners :sm24
Totally agree, ive found myself so many times jamming it in there fantasizing how great its gonna feel and next thing i know iam blowing my load. Being able to put yourself in a different mind set, and wanting to please the gal instead of just yourself will really help.

turtle
01-11-2006, 09:24 PM
Well many guys, including me, can't control when we ejaculate .

Your problem is that your accepting the word CAN'T. If you believe, if your motivated, if you have a strong desire, and if you educate yourself, there is very little in this world that you CAN'T accomplish. If you believe that you will fail, then that is exactly what you will do. Listen to what Jareth is telling you, you really can improve your ability if you believe that it will work.
turtle

Project_Moss
01-16-2006, 07:18 PM
Dont all jump on me, I know this has been posted 1000 times here at this site. I really dont get whats wrong with me. Sometimes with my girlfriend I can go for 30 minutes and still not cum when having sex. Other times I literally cum in less than 3 minutes. Ive even tried masterbating be4 sex so when I do it the second orgasm takes awhile to build up but then it is also harder for me to get a hard on and I seem to lose some of the hardness. I do pc exercies but that only really helps if I stop having sex tighten up for 15 seconds then start again which is annoying. I recently went to a store and bought a numbing spray for $15.00 and on the first attempt it did not seem to numb me at all and I came within 5 minutes. This is a problem in my relationship and I am looking for advice. Where can I get a good numbing cream or what should I do to help control this? I know someone is gonna come here and say just do PC Exercises but thats just for when u pull out and tighten so you dont come which impedes on the sex process. I want to be able to not cum at all so I dont have to stop having sex for at least 10-20 minutes. What do you guys think?

Project_Moss
01-17-2006, 11:23 AM
Just happend again took about 4 minutes I couldnt control it, the stupid spray is not working, what do you guys think?

canthink
01-24-2006, 04:00 PM
Whilst wanking I was trying to see how long I could go because that's a problem of mine.
I felt I was getting close to cumming so I stopped for a second. But whenever I started again I was going to ejaculate immediately. My dick was just so sensitive that I couldn't control it at all.
So I started again and got right to the edge, tensed my pc and held it in.
I carried on afterwards and had to wank RIDICULOUSLY hard until I finally blew my load.
Anyway...my point...
Before I got to the edge I felt so overcome with something (I'm going to assume hormones) I just had no control whatsoever. But afterwards when I started again I felt completely different, the only way to describe it is all of my "hornyness" had gone lol.
I was wondering if there was anyway to adjust the levels of the hormone (or whatever it is) so that I am not so sensitive.
Then I remembered...
I read on this site that the reason men ejaculate so quickly is because their serotonin levels are too low. It goes on to advertise a product that can increase the serotonin levels in your body. If anyone wants the site I've asked about it in a previous post.
Could this be what I'm feeling then? Not enough serotonin?
And even if it isn't that then its got to be something that makes me so sensitive before edging and then I make my arm tired (seriously) when I finally cum.

Any thoughts?

canthink

cloudthinker
01-24-2006, 06:07 PM
i would be interested in more information about the serotonin levels affecting how fast a guy cums also. if there is any evidence to support it can anyone offer suggestions to increase the serotonin levels through diet?

apooles
01-27-2006, 11:08 AM
I've beeen doing pe for about a week now. I take psp pills and i have been doing 100-150 3 second pc flexes a day for the last 2 days. i went for a test drive last night but i was highly intoxicated but i think i went around 10-15 mins which i know isnt' too bad but i can always go longer when im drunk. what is the proper way to hold out longer i want to make sure i am on the right track. how long does it usually take the pc muscle to strenghten?

drifta86
01-27-2006, 02:43 PM
Everyone can be different sometimes, having a strong PC muscle can help with P-E but so can many other things, I have found that breathing excersices have helped me, also being nervous or having anxiety can really increase P-E. Pretty much now though I can go for as long as I want, just practice finding your Point Of No Return and go from there, when you feel like your about to cum slow down or stop and think about something else, switch positions, or just play with your girl for a while. As for the how long it takes to strengthen the PC muscle I have no idea on that one, so sorry, maybe someone here can help you out with that one.

Project_Moss
01-27-2006, 06:11 PM
Bro 2 days of strengthening your pc is definetely not enough to see results already. You need to work at it, its like body building, you dont get huge after 1 day do you? The pc is a muscle in your body you need to exercise, takes time and dedication bro.

canthink
01-29-2006, 02:59 PM
Anyone got any ideas?

CeMills
01-30-2006, 10:04 AM
Whilst wanking I was trying to see how long I could go because that's a problem of mine.
I felt I was getting close to cumming so I stopped for a second. But whenever I started again I was going to ejaculate immediately. My dick was just so sensitive that I couldn't control it at all.
So I started again and got right to the edge, tensed my pc and held it in.
I carried on afterwards and had to wank RIDICULOUSLY hard until I finally blew my load.
Anyway...my point...
Before I got to the edge I felt so overcome with something (I'm going to assume hormones) I just had no control whatsoever. But afterwards when I started again I felt completely different, the only way to describe it is all of my "hornyness" had gone lol.
I was wondering if there was anyway to adjust the levels of the hormone (or whatever it is) so that I am not so sensitive.
Then I remembered...
I read on this site that the reason men ejaculate so quickly is because their serotonin levels are too low. It goes on to advertise a product that can increase the serotonin levels in your body. If anyone wants the site I've asked about it in a previous post.
Could this be what I'm feeling then? Not enough serotonin?
And even if it isn't that then its got to be something that makes me so sensitive before edging and then I make my arm tired (seriously) when I finally cum.

Any thoughts?

canthink
I am a newbie to this whole experience and didn't know about the seretonin levels playing a role. I do however know that a supplement called "5htp" made from a variety of vendors in 50 or 100 mg tablets does the trick. I use it to be able to be in a better mood, control apetite, and sleep. I work for a supplement company and know it works, just didn't know sexual health was another role it plays in. But it will increase your seretonin levels. 5HTP

Want8
04-27-2006, 10:03 PM
This advice may sound a little queer, but I got the idea from my wife. She had a bladder problem, where she used to piss all over me during sex and when she had an orgasm.

She now has great control over her pussy muscles - to squeeze my cock like a vice. Her gynecologist told her to get a dildo or viberator and put a lot of lube/vaseline on it, then insert it into either her asshole or her pussy and stand up and try to keep the dildo/viberator in her asshole and prevent it from slipping out by kegeling. She did both, in her pussy and her asshole and guess what - she can now crush walnuts with her pussy and/or asshole muscles.! I have a real problem holding my load when I give it to my wife in the ass even in her pussy - she squeezes like a vice and I totally explode. So it is a race for the best kegeling - I have to work on my kegeling to hold my load longer.

So I told my doctor of this and he told me to try the same - in my asshole with just a little lube. So I borrowed her viberator and lubed it up and put it in my asshole, then stood up. The viberator tries to slip out, but if you kegel very hard and work on it, you can hold it in your asshole. You have to work on this, but it works out the "BC/PC" muscles and before you know it, you will be cracking walnuts with your ass - . . . .LOL.

If you are married, ask your wife or girlfriend, what the gynecologist recommends for tightening their snatch's or for women that cant hold their piss - when having an orgasm (they piss all over you if this muscle isn’t strong - so it can help this problem too - for women I mean).

You don’t have to get a huge dildo, just a small one; that goes for the viberator too - just a small one. I put it in my asshole then jack off (and jelqing) while standing up trying to hold either the dildo or viberator in my asshole. Start without much lube first then gradually put more lube on the dildo or viberator. Less lube is for newbies, so as there will be less slippage outta your asshole - then when you gain more control over your BC muscle, you can add more lube and really get a workout. Try the viberator without it turned on, because you will cum in seconds, as it really stimulates the inside of your asshole/prostate, so my advice is not to turn it on being a newbie to this type of training. Sometimes when I go too far edging and the dildo or viberator is in my ass, I go over the top and explode like a gusher WOW talk about an orgasm - try it ! But that puts a quick end to the PE'ing workout and kegeling by throwing your load. If you don’t have a dildo or viberator and dont want to spend the money because you dont know if it will work or just dont want to try it, . . . . then borrow one. Most chicks have em'

Sounds gay, queer, but give it a try - you may like it too ? Just some friendly advice.

Its also excellent for anal sex. The reason I say this is because my wife loves anal sex she can actually squeeze my cock with her ass like me and you jelq ! She loves putting me in pain; I try my hardest (kegeling) to not cum and she squeezes the shit outta my cock to make me cum - and she usually wins, but whatta orgasm for both of us !!


Its tough getting the word out there, when it is very difficult to believe - like the dildo and viberator training. Some guys just are toooo macho to admit that they won’t try something new and/or something that the queers/gays love. But it helped me and my wife and I swear by the ass (kegel) training techniques I have spoken about.
:)

Want8
04-27-2006, 10:32 PM
Try to kegel to take care of your problem, check out my thread: http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?p=59292#post59292

Want8
04-27-2006, 10:36 PM
apooles,

Dude, I've been working on my PC/BC muscles for the last 2 years and am still kegeling to keep it up. Check out my thread for ideas about "Pre-mature Ejac": http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?p=59292#post59292

emma_permenda
04-28-2006, 07:55 AM
Here is a link you might want to take a look at;

http://www.ecureme.com/newcontents/articlearchives/04articles/062504article.asp


"The most important development in treating premature ejaculation in the past several years has been the use of Selective Seratonin Reuptake Inhibitors [SSRIs]. Two thirds of men who try them increase the length of intercourse," says Sharlip.

Emma

jazzlover
04-28-2006, 03:05 PM
I have suffered from premature ejaculation for years.I started taking paroxetine,an anti-depressant that controls the levels of serotonine and got cured completely.I've been taking it for 2 months (20 mg/day)and now I can last 30 minutes or more without effort.
Got a new lover too that's too beautiful...:sm27

Paroxetine rocks!!!Go for it!!

Want8
04-29-2006, 10:16 PM
Here is a link you might want to take a look at;

http://www.ecureme.com/newcontents/articlearchives/04articles/062504article.asp


"The most important development in treating premature ejaculation in the past several years has been the use of Selective Seratonin Reuptake Inhibitors [SSRIs]. Two thirds of men who try them increase the length of intercourse," says Sharlip.

Emma

Emma,

What is your opinion on SSRI's. Do you like longer sex ?

Trashboy
04-30-2006, 01:29 PM
Interesting. May have to try it.

sondawg
06-27-2006, 09:23 AM
I was just reading these 2 articles, and it states that PC muscle kegel exercises actually can make premature ejaculation problems even worse.

http://www.herballove.com/library/resource/prematureejaculation/weak_pc_muscle_01.asp

http://www.herballove.com/library/resource/prematureejaculation/kegelexercise.asp

Now this is of serious concern to me, because my pre. ejac. is HORRIBLE and i was about to start kegel exercises, but after reading this article, im really skepticle:(
Any opinions would be appreciated.

Also, has anyone tried the LastLonger III product, and had any success with it?
http://www.herballoveshop.com/product.asp?PID=1038&loc=health_concern+men+premature_ejaculation.asp&page=rev
right now i am admittedly a minute man (2 at best haha) and need desperate help

thanks!

moplwqa
06-27-2006, 10:27 AM
interesting read that has some valid points, however i fail to see how conditioning a muscles that controls well.....control can hinder your performance..its like any other exercise exercise it moderately and u will see posotive changes i.i hypertrophy and strengthening of the muscle.:sm29

Vine
06-27-2006, 10:53 AM
sondawg,

The articles in question all state that over-using and/or abusing your PC muscle can be a factor related to premature ejaculation. Nowhere in the articles does it state that kegals in and of themselves are harmful or undesirable in any way. In fact, the article actually states the opposite; claiming that they are helpful for the penis just so long as they are not over-done.

Big Vine

Jason1234
07-22-2006, 12:20 PM
Hey guys.

I've always ejaculated rather quickly when I used to masturbate (anywhere between 1 and 3 minutes). It never really used to bother me as I wasn't sexually active, although of course it is something that is starting to bother me.

I did an experiement over two days. The first day I masturbated normally whilst watching porn and recorded how long it took til climax. That was 2 minutes and 40 seconds.

Then on the second day I masturbated with the foreskin retracted, and just used the shaft to masturbate. I found I lasted 25 minutes whilst watching porn.

Therefore I think (HOPE) I have located the cause of the quick ejaculation. That being the Penis Glans itself. What leads me to believe this is perhaps as I am uncircumcised, my penis head is unusally sensitive. Maybe I need to "cure" it of it's sensitivity?

From last night till around 6pm today I retracted the foreskin and slept with it like that. At times it was a little uncomfortable but i stuck with it. I think I must have had it retracted too long though as an hour or so ago there was a quite large fluid building up in the foreskin, and I had to let it subside for a few hours.


Anyone know if doing this for a few weeks will help stop me coming to the PNR so soon? It definately must be to do with the glans as my test proved it.

I'll also probably try edging every day as I hear that is another good way around it.

Also anyone else have this problem of Premature Ejaculation, and have you tried masturbating without touching the head? Same results?

BetterWhiteMeat
07-22-2006, 01:17 PM
jason1234,
I wish you were right about the uncut factor but im cut and my glans are also very sensitive the only way I found to go the distance is put some total crap show on tv or radio to make me think about something else.
Its goit its plus's and minus's in pe its a plus for squeezes its not to tough to stay hard but in sex its definate minus during sex if I dont use the watch listen to crap technique im ready to blow in like 10 mins but if I use what I refer to as the crap tech. I can go for 45mins ez
So best I can say is try to watch or listen to something that takes your mind away for your actions.
Hope this helps
BWM

Jason1234
07-22-2006, 01:36 PM
Thank you for the tip with the rubbish tv show/radio show :P

I was wondering if you have tried masturbating by just using the shaft to see if you last longer? It's just that I want to try and see whether it is just my glans that is the cause of the prematute ejaculation.

BetterWhiteMeat
07-22-2006, 01:45 PM
Yes i have and can last almost forever but if i hit the head/glans I'm ready to pop in no time.

BetterWhiteMeat
07-22-2006, 01:51 PM
and when i say crap/rubbish I mean something you would never watch in any other sitution but to take your mind off things DONOT watch something you enjoy it will not work well atleast in my case

thompj
07-23-2006, 12:00 PM
I keep hearing the phrase "edging." Can someone please explain to me what it is.

Vine
07-23-2006, 02:23 PM
'Edging' means bringing yourself to the point of almost ejaculating, but then holding back. It is often used in conjunction with exercises such as Ulis and Supra Slammers in which as full an erection as possible is required. Again, the idea being to hold back from ejaculating, but getting as close to that point as possible to achieve a rock-hard erection.

Big Vine

Jareth
07-23-2006, 06:54 PM
'Edging' means bringing yourself to the point of almost ejaculating, but then holding back. It is often used in conjunction with exercises such as Ulis and Supra Slammers in which as full an erection as possible is required. Again, the idea being to hold back from ejaculating, but getting as close to that point as possible to achieve a rock-hard erection.

Big Vine
I use this method every workout at the end! It really pumps the penis and helps me cum more:sm24

Vine
07-23-2006, 07:23 PM
I use this method every workout at the end! It really pumps the penis and helps me cum more:sm24

Yup...the more you do it, the more forcefully and voluminous your load is likely to be---with the only exception being that if you overtire your PC muscle by overdoing it, then the effects may not be as pronounced. But still, it is a great pump, like you said! I prefer to hold back if at all possible, but sometimes things just 'get out of hand,' so to speak.

Big Vine

aaron198
07-24-2006, 05:49 AM
jason, once i slept throughout the nite with my foreskin retracted and when i woke up there was a big load of fluid build up, it was also purple, believe me i was worried, i contacted the doctor immediatly and he told me to not do it in future as it restricts the blood flow and can cause damage, my penis returned to normal within a day or to and swelling reduced after a few hours so i did not have to pull my man fat out infront of another man/doctor. always pull your foreskin back over your head after sex etc...

avg-dick
07-24-2006, 06:12 AM
Try masturbating with your underwear on, preferably boxers. The idea is to stimulate the penis without "over" stimulation. The barrier of the fabric reduces the direct stimulation on the glans and surrounding area. Also instead of using a full hand grip, try just rubbing your thumb up and down your shaft, hitting the head and glans area when necessary. I've learned great control over the years using this method and can masturbate 30+ minutes without ejaculation. Of course direct contact with your penis will heighten your arrousal, so when you're ready to blast off, remove your underwear and the stimulation on your penis will be twice as intense, making your ejaculation much stronger.

mr_dive
07-24-2006, 01:44 PM
avg-dick, you say you have total control of your ejaculation, did you always have control or did you suffer from premature ejaculation? and how you do it when you have sex with a woman? when I have sex i come very quick, while masturbating it takes also much longer... but it's true that when you don't stimulate the glans it takes longer but when you penetrate your glans is the first to be stimulated...

avg-dick
07-25-2006, 03:57 AM
I don't remember saying "total control", just enough to prolong ejaculation. And yes the attempt is to NOT come quickly, something I've had problems with, though I wouldn't call it premature, just overarousal. The basic concept is to get to know your limits and know what your body is responding too. I think most men fall intot his category

hammer_4
08-29-2006, 01:12 AM
Guys i have a major problem with premature ejaculation, i was hoping that there was a cure out there. My head is extremely sensitive, i think it is probably unusually sensitive compared to other heads and i cum really quick. Like in a minute if im getting a blowjob. This makes me feel really bad when this happens and i make up some bullshit excuse. So any and all information helping me with this problem is greatly apprecated.

- HELP ME !

sagar1_isbig
08-29-2006, 07:08 PM
Yes I read this info on some threds and I would like to know my self too.

Big Al
08-29-2006, 07:24 PM
Look up "Stop and Starts". It's a conditioning exercise that will definitely give you good results.

gizmo6000
10-18-2006, 03:58 PM
ok i just ordered my ps pills. i have a couple of questions, i have a premature ejaculation problem i always tend to ejaculate to fast what can i do to change that and go longer? will the ps pills help with this problem or is there excersies that i could to do change that or diff. kinds of pills i could by to last longer? thank you

Dazzlingdaz3
10-18-2006, 05:35 PM
Hi Mate,
Welcome to the forum :)

Premature ejaculation is a common problem with a lot of guys. Pills will not assist with this problem. PC FLEXES or Kegels are the only way to regain control of you ejaculation. There is a sticky thread in the newbies forum called "forum search tips" and this will help you to conduct a search on those two keywords for heaps of valuable information on the subject, including, how to do them ;)

Cheers
Dazz

ultranet
10-18-2006, 09:12 PM
Hello Friend
There is Method to increase Sexual Stamina and long time ejaculation in YOGA.
This can helps but usually takes longer times. I suggest you not to use any drugs.
There is always an herbal medicines.:sm29

Dazzlingdaz3
10-22-2006, 08:40 PM
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Cheers
Dazz

daburgh1987
10-25-2006, 08:17 PM
My problem is that when I'm on top I can go all day long. But when my girlfriend rides me it's game after 2 minutes. If I could control that for a while longer I'll be satisfied because that is my only problem at this point and to make it worse it' my favorite position and I don't like to do it as often...well at first. Any help?

Dazzlingdaz3
10-25-2006, 08:22 PM
My problem is that when I'm on top I can go all day long. But when my girlfriend rides me it's game after 2 minutes. If I could control that for a while longer I'll be satisfied because that is my only problem at this point and to make it worse it' my favorite position and I don't like to do it as often...well at first. Any help?

Check out the thread - Tutorial PC flex basic for stamina and control in the newbies forum, consider the use of a numbing cream or just plough away on top and then change position when you or her want to cum ;)

Cheers
Dazz