Growers vs Showers

[new2u]

I started this psp 5 days ago, and I really wonder if it does help to enlarge my penis. Yes, I'm a skeptic, cause some men have a blood penis and others have a meat penis- how can there be the same results??? please help!
what exercises are the best ? :sm25
please answer
alias new2u

[ScottMN]

What do you mean by blood and meat penis?

[new2u]

Well a meat penis ( don't know the scientific term) is a penis that is thicker and usually longer because it consists of more flesh than a blood penis which grows only in its erect motion longer. Do u now understand my question?
Plus I also noticed that I'm more tired since I take psp? is that possible, or may this have another cause?
thanx
new2u

[ScottMN]

ahh i see what you're saying. Well if you look through the forum, all of the guys here get different results, so this may have something to do with it. As for being tired, not sure about this, not a common problem though...

If you're worried it's the pills, go off but continue the exercises for a few days and see if the problem persists.

[turtle]

We have always talked about being a "shower or a grower" Just make that shower = meat, and grower = blood.
turtle

[ScottMN]

hehe got it

[Momo]

Having the "blood penis" (AKA being markedly smaller when flaccid), is a condition that will go away when you become an advanced PE-er (trust me). You build tissues over time, yes of course - but you're also developing the blood flow through the area (which eventually has an effect on your size all the time, not just when you're erect), i.e. your flaccid size increases.

So, basically, the ideal situation is to get to the point where you have both. Lots of meat, and lots of blood... oh yes... :D

Just like any other well-developed, healthy part of the body, you need lots of blood (thus nutrients) going through there all the time, to sustain the high level of fitness. The cardiovascular system adapts.

It actually shouldn't be TOO long during your PE quest that you begin to note an ever-inceasing flaccid size. Pretty soon, that thing gets in the way all the time, but hey, who's fault is that? :rolleyes:

[Neongene]

Well I just learned I must have a blood penis today.

When flaccid its very small, about 10cm sometimes, but when i have an erection it shoots up to over 6inches or so.

Also I find I have two different flaccid sizes. One which is very small may be attributed to poor blood flow or a weak PC muscle. I also have a much fuller flaccid penis which looks way better, buts its still complelety limp. Usually after I work out or have sex/masterbate.

It was something I really noticed just starting my PE exercises.

Does anyone else have multiple flaccid sizes?

[turtle]

Does anyone else have multiple flaccid sizes?

Just about everyone, it is the normal reaction to cold, heat, tight clothes, etc. Although I do find that my flacid size tends to be more consistent when I'm wearing the ROP.
turtle

[ScottMN]

I can vary by an inch or two. A lot of it depends on what my nerves are doing. If i'm having a more nerve wracking day, I shrink up, if relaxed, i'm normal.

[Dazzlingdaz3]

hahahahahahahahaha - yeah, mines a blood penis LOL

but it getting MEATIER! :D

cheers
Daz

[dannyboy101]

Blood penis here too! Doh! :sm22

[Maysey]

Just started with PE's today. Any advice or praises for PE.com. Thanks!

[Fraty]

one of reason why i started PE was because my flaccid penis size is very poor , so i am now have some gains in erect state , but i don't see any gains in flaccid size , so i would want to know what is ratio for other forum members , i thought , for example if you gain 2" in erect state how big will be flaccid size gains.

it is known that bigger penis for example 14 cm in flaccid will be 20 cm in erect so it only enlarges for 145 % , but 5 cm penis in flaccid size when is erect will stay bigger for 250% , so it is suppose to be diffrent , like if you enlarge penis 1" in erect then flaccid will be bigger in 1.25" for example.

So i think guy who have natural 22 cm erect size will have bigger flaccid then guy who have enlarged his penis from 16 cm to 22 cm. i am right?

i saw here around big al , who says in his sig. that he have enlarged penis up to 3 inches , i would want know how big flaccid gains he have ?

[Fraty]

Here is picture , you can see here what is avarge ratio, picture made by reserching 3000 mens.

[turtle]

You can tell by my signiture that I have had a little luck with PE, but I have no idea about flacid gains. I have never measured my flacid size because I really don't care. It's bigger and hangs better, but the erect size is what counts. My attitude is not that unusual, so don't be surprised if you don't get a ton of responses to your poll. It also get's back into the shower versus grower. It also get's us back to the when do you measure for flacid size. Depending on what I am doing or wearing my flacid size changes dramatically during the day. It's just one more reason why I could care less about flacid size.
turtle

[bULL]

I have to agree with turtle, again. First of all flacid size really does depend on different things like usually if it is really cold your flacid size will not be as big as normal. Unless your goal is to impress people at the gym while you change, who cares? Also it is hard to tell how much you have gained in a flacid state because how do you know when you should measure? There is no doubt that getting a bigger erect state will give you a bigger flacid state, but how much I can't tell you.

[DJMIKE]

i have voted. i started in july on this program and i have gaind 2'' in flaccid lenth from my 3'', i am now 5'' soft. i have gaind in erect size from 6 1/4 to nearly 8'' stiff. i was pleased with 6+willy but my flaccid size was to small for my likeing, so i did something about it, and look at me now, still doing it, but happy with what i have gaind in nearly 4 months.i am uncut and have no problem doing the exersizes.

[chazster]

You saying that you gained about 1.5in + doing this for 4 months? Thats crazy. Way to go I hope I get gains like that.

[John4117]

You know how some people have a smaller flaccid length, but tend to grow alot more than the people with bigger flaccid lengths. Do you think the "growers" see results faster, since they grow more?

[mulisha_air2]

thats an interesting question but i dont think it matters, after you do pe for awhile you will become one of the people with bigger flaccid lengths and not grow as much, from my experience.

[Momo]

I concur w/ the above post. My totally-flaccid size when I first started wasn't much to brag about, quite frankly. I was definitely a "grower". But after years of PE, reaching a pretty respectable level (IMHO), compare my current flaccid size w/ erect size (below), at ~7" length (maybe just slightly over), and for flaccid girth; right at 6" mid-shaft, and ~6.5 at the base. So basically, with an erection, I gain 0.5" in girth, and just over 1" in length. Thinking back to when I first started, the flaccid vs. erect measurements were definitely more, percentage-wise.

I don't remember exactly what my starting flaccid size was exactly (probably didn't even want to measure, because it would have been depressing), but it was pretty "shrimpy" (*cough*) - as numerous people commented as such. :rolleyes:

[da_shine99]

You know how some people have a smaller flaccid length, but tend to grow alot more than the people with bigger flaccid lengths. Do you think the "growers" see results faster, since they grow more?

It depends on the right exercise with right motivation and persistence along with right amount of time.

[grower]

Hi, I've tried PE a few years ago. I found the routine I was following was way too time consuming. I have seen people following programs that apparently work in just 15 minutes a day 4 to 5 times a week. Idsthis really possible?

Right now, I am looking for something quick that can make my penis bigger in the flaccid state. Please let me know what is possible and effecetive.

Thanks in advance

Grower

[turtle]

Try the sitdown stretch, it's a good exercise for flacid gains.
turtle

[DJMIKE]

when i started, that is just what i wanted first. to gain in the flaccid lenth department.
i started doing weights, and the sitdown streach, and the pro-solution pill's as well, and in two month's i had gained 2''. i went from 3'' to 5'' flaccid. so do it, it workes, but don't go mad. it takes time.good luck.

[grower]

Thanks guys! About sitdown stretches, will this make my penis thinner? can anyone briefly explain how to do sitting stretches? Is it like grambing behind the head and stretching and holding for 20 seconds and repeating this for 5 to 10 minutes?

thanks guys
grower

[catalyst]

Sit down stretch is basically when you grab your head, shove it between your ass cheeks, and sit down on it. ;)

[daddylongleg]

I 'm glad i found this thread I was just about to give up on flassid gains.
speaking on flaccid why am i no longer waking up to an erect penis?

[Dazzlingdaz3]

I 'm glad i found this thread I was just about to give up on flassid gains.
speaking on flaccid why am i no longer waking up to an erect penis?

Hey mate,

It is not unusual to see a reduction in "morning wood" whilst on the PE program, especially if you are using good intensity to your exercises and/or are masturbating to orgasm after each PE session. The simple fact is that the little fella is quite tuckered out. You should see an improvement on your days off and as long as you are still getting spontaneous erections throughout the day, there should be no problems.
Seriously, if you are concerned, try some PSPills, or equivalent (this is not a hard sell ;) ) I have been waking up to some of the best morning wood most mornings, since taking them.

Cheers
Daz

[emceeme2000]

When you guys measure flaccid length how do you account for the variance in fluctuations in length throughout the day? What I mean, for me at least, is during the day my flaccid length varies, when it's cold it’s usually shorter than when it’s hot, and so forth. When measuring, should I consider flaccid to be the length after an erection completely subsides? Other than that I wouldn't have an idea of how to get consistent results for taking flaccid measurements. Any advice would be great.
Thanks

[Dazzlingdaz3]

When you guys measure flaccid length how do you account for the variance in fluctuations in length throughout the day? What I mean, for me at least, is during the day my flaccid length varies, when it's cold it’s usually shorter than when it’s hot, and so forth. When measuring, should I consider flaccid to be the length after an erection completely subsides? Other than that I wouldn't have an idea of how to get consistent results for taking flaccid measurements. Any advice would be great.
Thanks

Hi mate,
Flaccid length measurements are definitely the most difficult to measure consistently due to the fluctuations and variables you have described. I measure my flaccid length at its best and most normal ie: warm ambient temperature, and totally relaxed.
Cold temperatures, stress, anxiety and other factors can all contribute to a less than glamorous flaccid display - especially for us guys with "blood" penises as opposed to those with "meat penises"

Cheers
Daz

[turtle]

I never bother with measuring flacid size for all of those reasons, and one other rather important one, I couldn't care less. There is no question that my flacid is bigger than it used to be, but it's erect size that matters.
turtle

[john560]

My flaccid size really decreases after a really good workout, does anybody else get this too?

[wcaldrichjr]

Ultimately I could care less with flaccid length but I like how it hangs more and is meatier. I have always been a GROWER not a SHOWER as they say. It is nice to be more of a shower but I have not once measured flaccid length. After a good workout my size is bigger for a while and then smaller after a couple of hours. It is identical to the effect you get after a good weightlifting session. You are all pumped up with blood in there and then the muscles have to rest so the blood recedes and it is time for rebuilding.

[Momo]

Whatever you do, don't measure your flaccid length right after running on a treadmill, in a very cold room. The combination of cold, plus the running exercise... man... I just happened to look, and it was like 6 years of PE was wiped out in just a few minutes. :eek:

:sm25

Yeah, that's the great equalizer. Go run for several minutes, and then measure. I guess the penis goes into 'protection mode' when running, and shrivels up quite (not so) nicely.

[Lukaz83]

I want to do this exercise to gain a biffer flaccid penis, but I have a problem.
Where do I put my balls while doing it?

[badrass23]

never really done the sitdown stretch and interested in flaccid gains..

how long do you all recommend doing it for? how many reps? what results have you gotten?

[daddylongleg]

the stretch is a good one. I haven't been keeping track of time though but i have gianed at least 1in length and maybe a 4th or 3rdin in girth flaccid. in a matter of oh maybe 4-5 months. and that was just last year. I'm still doin it now and can feel and see the growth from then. it does work

[daddylongleg]

I want to do this exercise to gain a biffer flaccid penis, but I have a problem.
Where do I put my balls while doing it?
just keep them out of the way:D
no really while you are stretching (by hand) you're mainly holding onto your glands and not bothering your balls so they should be fine where they are or are you refering to a different exercise?

[Lukaz83]

I meant that if I pull my penis towards my ass my balls are in between

[daddylongleg]

oh I'm sorry, just hold them to one side and youl be fine. but be gentle.

[biolex]

In my opinion flacid length isn't as important as erect length. Sure a large flacid length may make you more comfortable if your changing infront of someone or something like that but, if you are comfortable with yourself it shouldn't matter.

My flacid length varys from about 2 to 4 inches from day to day... on average it's about 3 inches. It may not seem like much to some of you but, it doesn't really bother me because when i'm erect my penis size increases 2 to 3 times it's flacid size... currently at 6 1/4 inches.

I guess you could call me a grower... some people are hangers... i have a friend who i'd call a hanger, he's propably about 6 to 7 inches flacid but, he says that when he's erect it doesn't get any longer just harder and thicker. And he's satisfied with that but, not totally happy.

I personally like the idea of a women being able to see my small to average sized flacid penis transform in size into something that she wouldn't have imagined. I'm not saying that I'm not working on my flacid size because it should increase as my erect size increases. I'm just saying that I would rather be a grower than a hanger.

So, in conclusion to me flacid length isn't as important as erect length but, it can have an effect (positive or negative) on how we feel and on our confidence if we let it.

hope I wasn't to all over the place with this :sm33

[Big Al]

Flaccid stretched length is about 1/2" +/- erect length. It can be a valuable tool for measuring too.

[turtle]

Once again statistics provides information that is basically bullshit when your applying it to individual situations. My flacid size is no where near 1/2 inch of my erect size. I'm a grower and the averaging factor that controls statistics just throws me in the population, and then on average we get useless statistics like you just mentioned. I'm not doubting your numbers. I am just suggesting that they provide absolutely no information to most people, and presenting this type of nonsense can have a negative psychological effect for those people who are growers.
turtle

[Big Al]

Once again statistics provides information that is basically bullshit when your applying it to individual situations. My flacid size is no where near 1/2 inch of my erect size. I'm a grower and the averaging factor that controls statistics just throws me in the population, and then on average we get useless statistics like you just mentioned. I'm not doubting your numbers. I am just suggesting that they provide absolutely no information to most people, and presenting this type of nonsense can have a negative psychological effect for those people who are growers.
turtle

I had to correct something in my last post in this thread. I meant to state "flaccid stretched length" instead of "flaccid length". Thanks for bringing this error to my attention :)

[Loggerhead]

I had to correct something in my last post in this thread. I meant to state "flaccid stretched length" instead of "flaccid length". Thanks for bringing this error to my attention :)

So........ typically, should flacid stretched length be the same as, longer than or shorter than erect length?

[Want8]

I think flaccid length is real important.

Here is a real life scenerio that happened to me.

I was in a local bar and was talking to two chicks. We had some sort of a bet and the payoff was that the one chick would show me her hairy thick pussy and I would show them my cock.

Soooooooooo, some how I had to show them my prick, and thank God that it was sweating against the bar stool that I was sittin on and my nuts and cock were actually hot. I had shorts on and it was in one of the summer months.

Sooooooooo, I pulled my prick out and it was actually a little semi-erect and they thought is was soft/flaccid. You should have seen their faces and they said "WOW and its not even hard" That made me feel good.

Soooooo, long flaccid looks good to women. I think that they feel if its long when flaccid, that it is even longer when erect - and we know thats not true.

Just an observation.


PS: And I got to see her hairy snatch (one of my fetish's)

[Big Al]

So........ typically, should flacid stretched length be the same as, longer than or shorter than erect length?

Yes, usually about 1/2 inch +/- erect length.

[Want8]

Pretty cool , huh ?

[Biggiesmalls]

I feel like such a dick. (no pun intended) I'm embarrassed to go to the beach or get change in the lockroom of my local gym because of the size of my penis when it's flaccid. I think no other man have what I have, this is like a curse.

My penis measures at 6" 3/4 BPEL in length and 5.5 in girth when it's hard, but when it's flaccid it shrinks to 3" and 3" 1/2 in girth when it's flaccid, almost like a rigatoni or a trenne . What the hell is wrong with me? How could a penis shrink so much when it's not hard? I know people with only like 1" to 1" 1/2 in difference when it comes to their flaccid and erected size. Why do mine shrink to the size of a baby's penis when it's not erect? I'm so frustrated.

I'm a bodybuilder and I'm bulky so my dick just looks further out of proportion. I've always jump straight into the shower or get dressed real quickly after sex, but sometimes I just feel like laying there nude while enjoying the moment of absolute clarity. Recently I've even stopped having sex because I don't want my flaccid penis to be seen. Somebody help me.

[Dazzlingdaz3]

Hi mate,
Your problem and flaccid size is very common. My flaccid size was aoround 2" before I started PE and compared to my physical form - 6' tall and approx 190 lbs it looked totally inadequate. Worse still, my visible erect length was around 4.5".

Some guys are "showers" ie they have a large flaccid hang which doesnt increase a lot in size when erect, it just gets hard, then you have "growers" in this case, you would fit into that niche perfectly. The of course, there are the guys that are shortchanged on both accounts :)

The good news is that through PE you can change that around. Research the forum mate and read through other peoples accounts and experiences. If you want to do something about your situation, spend $50 and sign up with penis health and get to work on an enlargement routine! Trust me, you will never look back ;)

Cheers
Dazz

[Loggerhead]

I used to be just like you about half my age ago. To top it off I'm uncut. It used to look very small and as if a dog bit the head off because of foreskin. When I was much younger, I was a grower from about 3 flacid to 6.75 BPEL, not a shower like the other guys. Given such, I would play with it some and get it to show a respective size then strip my clothes and take a shower amongst the rest of the guys. When they weren't looking, I would pull on it to keep it hanging with some size. It's awful, I feel your pain. I was there.

The up side is your erect length is more the average. You already have a head start at PE.

About 25 years ago I stopped wearing briefs and went to boxers and noticed a dif in flacid length ever since.

Now if I get undressed, I'm still a little uncomfy. Now because my flacid is about 6, I feel self consious because it's a little on the long side of norm.

Not only does PE help to make it longer, but I personally believe that pure age causes it to not shrink up so much. It just doesn't have that elastic effect it used to have.

You are in the right place to start the process of your enlargement. Read, learn and get to work. You can make quite a dif if you dedicate yourself to PE.

It's guys like us that become ultra superior later because we had to endur the pain of that inferior complex. I'm personally not far from my goals in every aspect of my life. I can thank the fact that I had some inferiority complex issues in my younger years. It just made me stronger and better at everything. It is a wonderful feeling to overcome the obsticles and when the inferiorities disappear.

[frank100]

Now if I get undressed, I'm still a little uncomfy. Now because my flacid is about 6, I feel self consious because it's a little on the long side of norm..
How much time did you take to tranform your dick in such a way?
Have you done only Classic PE or have you used particular "tricks"?

Not only does PE help to make it longer, but I personally believe that pure age causes it to not shrink up so much. It just doesn't have that elastic effect it used to have
Perheps I am too young yet, 50 years old now, but after 6 months of PE I am at about 8" Bone Pressed Flaccid Streching Lenght but my flaccid is still 3" in the good days.

Any advise would be very appreciated.

Thanks.

[Loggerhead]

Only been doing PE for 5 months. Must be the pills and patches that helps to keep me hanging long. I was probably 4.5 flacid before I started consiously doing PE though. Age, time, boxers or no undies at all and for the last 25 years, I have been pulling some on my dick just assuming that it made some difference.

[Big Al]

I feel like such a dick. (no pun intended) I'm embarrassed to go to the beach or get change in the lockroom of my local gym because of the size of my penis when it's flaccid. I think no other man have what I have, this is like a curse.

My penis measures at 6" 3/4 BPEL in length and 5.5 in girth when it's hard, but when it's flaccid it shrinks to 3" and 3" 1/2 in girth when it's flaccid, almost like a rigatoni or a trenne . What the hell is wrong with me? How could a penis shrink so much when it's not hard? I know people with only like 1" to 1" 1/2 in difference when it comes to their flaccid and erected size. Why do mine shrink to the size of a baby's penis when it's not erect? I'm so frustrated.

I'm a bodybuilder and I'm bulky so my dick just looks further out of proportion. I've always jump straight into the shower or get dressed real quickly after sex, but sometimes I just feel like laying there nude while enjoying the moment of absolute clarity. Recently I've even stopped having sex because I don't want my flaccid penis to be seen. Somebody help me.

If it's any consolation, you're above average in terms of EL. You can do short jelqing sessions throughout the day to keep your flaccid hang "pumped".

[Vine]

He's also above average in EG at 5.5"---many people struggle to hit 5.5" after years of PEing!

Big Vine

[dyablo]

I actually think ist much better to be criticised by your flacid size than by your erect dimensions. At elast i would gretly prefer having a samll flacid penis and an above average erect one than the other way arround, becuse in the end you have se with an erect penis dont you?

[Kawika Boy]

Just curious if there are other "growers" (those that have really small flaccid lengths, yet grow to an average size when erect) who are doing PE?? Possible set of problems that growers might have that show-ers probably don't have?

[Jareth]

Yep right here my friend but my flaccid hang varies sometimes I can barly pull it out of my pants to piss, other times its falling out.

[Kawika Boy]

das a big difference...i wondering if its harder (or easier) to gain length if your a grower???

[turtle]

I'm a grower, but my flacid has improved over time. I never really measured flacid since I really don't care that much, but when I started all of this my small stage of flacid was probably around 1 1/2 to 2 inches, and now it's more like 3 inches. When I wear the ROP, it might be pushing 4. Clearly not hung like a horse, but it works. Not that I was all of that paranoid about my small flacid, but I did have shy penis syndrome. If your not sure what that is, let me explain. Have you ever been at a sporting event where the bathroom for taking a leak is basically a large trough were many men just line up, pull it out, and take a leak. Shy penis syndrome means that when you are standing there, exposed in all your glory, that no piss comes out. Granted sometimes the syndrome doesn't happen, typically if you have consumed so much beer you are about to explode, but it did happen often enough that it was somewhat frustrating. For me at least, shy penis syndrome is history. I can't even remember the last time it happened. Some how I don't think that we are going to see a change in Lativo's advertisements that claim "fix shy penis syndrome" but I am glad that it is no longer part of my brainwaves.
turtle

[Kawika Boy]

i still wonder on how the electrical current effects the sperm quality...plus, when you tak eoff the ROP, is there a difference in flaccid size from the original flaccid?

[turtle]

If you take off the ROP and leave it off, say overnight, and then put it back on in the morning your flacid is still a little better than without. If you don't use it for a few days the effect goes away. I really don't think peoples' concern about the electical current effect on sperm quality is an issue. The Blakoe Ring has been around since the 1920's. The electical current issue exists with this product, and I have never seen any research that has ever attacked this aspect of the Blakoe Ring. I really can't believe that over a period of 80 years if the electical current was a problem that we wouldn't have seen some research and publications regarding this issue. I also can't believe that no one has researched this potential problem, the lack of any publications implies that they didn't discover any problems.
turtle

[Kawika Boy]

too bad the effect goes away after a few days! was hoping that it would last! that would be too easy for PE!

[Vine]

I'm definitely a 'grower' and not a 'shower'---my flaccid length was maybe about 2 inches or so, at best, prior to starting PE. It is now closer to 3 inches, and sometimes even slightly more...

...I still get "Shy Penis Syndrome" though, just like turtle described! :o

Vine

[waytosmall]

i'm a grower to(i think) , my flaccid size used to be around the 2 inch mark but now it is normally around 3" whe i am erct at most is 5" man i hate being this small. And my grith when flaccid is around the 2-3" mark and the more like 5" when erect. I have found no problems with gains other than they are not as fast as i would like :( but still gains none the less. Hope this helps small

[DragonPisces]

I have some asian friends that won't even use a trough or urinal for that matter, they stand and wait for a stall, that is pretty shy :sm35

One friend chants 'size doesn't matter' 2 seconds after someone mentions ANYthing about size or penis.

You guys should feel proud you're doing something about your size and/or shyness.

There are some people on here that seem to know quite a bit about the penis, what affects girth, length etc. Do any of you know if a 'grower' experiences a lot of skin expansion thus would have a harder time getting gains? It seems PE is geared toward increasing the internal capability of the penis but what if you jump 300% in size from flaccid to hard, how much more can your skin inflate?

[Vine]

It seems PE is geared toward increasing the internal capability of the penis but what if you jump 300% in size from flaccid to hard, how much more can your skin inflate?

Good point. I see what you're getting at with this question, but think of it this way...

Take pregnant women, for example, and look at how big their bellies get compared to their original size---and this all happens in just 9 months! Imagine how many times over their belly skin would have had to stretch in order for that to be possible!

Same deal with people who gain a lot of weight and become obese...skin stretches quite readily.

So in answer to your question, I don't think that stretching the skin via PEing is all that difficult. It is mainly the internal parts that require the long-term stretching/expanding in order to grow.

Vine

[DragonPisces]

That's a good point, but lets say you are 6 inches erect, then you start doing some stretching for length, you can't pull your flaccid penis out to 8-9 inches right? it seems to only stretch out about as far as erect. Now that I think about it, why can't we stretch more?

[JRambo]

What causes someones penis to be a grower not a shower? I have heard over masturbation causes this, and also smoking. Is there any way to get your penis to hang full all the time, maybe with supplements or something?

[turtle]

"Cause" really isn't the right way to think about it. If your small flaccid, then you are basically a grower. If you are large flaccid then you are a shower. If you think about the average penis size, it is always discussed as an erect length. Hence the concept of grower/shower.
turtle

[Loadman 1]

take a look at my thread on my problem with my flaccid size, I too will not pee in the trough..... only hopin it works on my flaccid sooner than later....

BTW how long is too long to sit on the ole shlong?

[Dazzlingdaz3]

BTW how long is too long to sit on the ole shlong?

:) If it falls off, you have sat on it for too long.

Seriously, 20 mins is considered the average, but this depends on how quickly you start to lose circulation, maybe less , maybe more depening on individual and how intense the stretch is.

STOP, when you notice tingling, discomfort, pain, numbness or coldness ;)

Checkout the thread Tutorial - Sit down stretch, for more ino on the subject.

Cheers
Dazz

[jorunj]

I also have a blod penis..but i am kinda nervous by nature so i notice it being shunk more when nervous..but i do notice after a year of peing..mor emeatier