talk about hours..

[lul]

Unless i wear this oddly shaped thing in my pants around work and scarper to the loos everytime i feel it starting to slip down my legs...

i cannot manage more than 7hours a day of wearing the device.
My thinking is if i wear it 7hrs a day but increase the amounts of days before increasing the stretch = same difference

is this true or not....

ie. 7 hours a day (9days in a row rather than 7) before increasing the stretch by 0.5cm
because...
7hrs x 9days = 63 hours
9hrs x 7days = 63 hours

maybe a scientific take on it might say that the penis limb has to be stretched for at least 9hrs a day consequetively for any permanent effect etc etc.

what does everyone think??

[Dazzlingdaz3]

Hi mate,

Your theory sounds fine :)
I am currently running the same idea, my hours wearing the device are averaging around 3 - 4 per day, I just add a bar when I feel that I can acomodate it. Sometimes it might be 3 weeks before I do so.

Keep up the good work ;)

Cheers
Dazz

[jacomarks]

This is a great thread...I do the same thing.

I find that during the week I cannot wear the device for 10-12 hours per day like I can on the weekends. I am moving about in the clinic too much--standing, sitting, bending, etc. I end up having to reposition it several times in 3-4 hours, making it impractical to wear--simply because I don't have the time to go to the restroom that often. So I end up wearing it from about 7-10AM per work day, then take it off for the rest of the day. Then I wear it again after I get home, from about 5-11PM. So the best I can hope for is about 8-9 hours per day during the week. But I do try to wear it longer on the weekends, when I am typically not as active. I also try to work it so that my 'off day' is a week day, instead of a weekend.

Regarding the tensioning rods--I have found them to be VERY useful in this case. Because I cannot wear the device as much as the manual suggests, I find it more difficult to know when to add a 0.5cm extender. But I have found that I can just start to screw out the tension rods after a couple days at each new length, and when I am completely comfortable with them extended *past* the point of adding another 0.5cm extension...I simply add another piece. I agree completely with Dazz--this might be 1-2 weeks; but I can tell simply by how well I tolerate the extended tension rods. I found that by doing daily exercises for only 5-6 minutes in the shower, I am much more likely to keep on a weekly schedule of adding the 0.5cm extension.

Having said all of this, I must say that I have not yet seen any improvement in BPEL. I think I have had a slight increase in EG however, and I think I am seeing this with the measuring tape where my girth has increased several millimeters on most days. But I am only into this for 4-5 weeks now, and didn't really start the exercises until about 2 weeks ago--so I am cautiously optimistic at this point.

How did it go for you Dazz? Did you typically see a noticeable increase in EL after a certain point? I guess I mean; did you see that you were tolerating a longer extender length before you saw a measurable length increase?

JM

[Dazzlingdaz3]

How did it go for you Dazz? Did you typically see a noticeable increase in EL after a certain point? I guess I mean; did you see that you were tolerating a longer extender length before you saw a measurable length increase?

JM

Hi Mate,
Yes mate, that pretty much sums up my experience. I broke through my 18cm plateu after approx 6 - 8 weeks of using the device and gained a half centimetre. I have not been big on measuring for a long time now, occaisionally I throw the ruler up for a check when I am particularly horny and have a raging hardon and I have been tipping out at 19cm BPEL recently. My extender is set up at 20.5 cm.

Cheers
Dazz

[jade_permenda]

There is a "special mode" included in the instruction manual, where you wear the device for only 4 hours a day, and increase the length by adding in a 0.5cm rod every 3 days instead of wearing the device for 9 hours and adding 0.5cm every 7 days.

This will mean that results are seen slower, but if you have problems wearing the device for the full 9 hours, then maybe this would be a better solution?:)

Hope this helps!;)

[jacomarks]

You must mean to wear the device 4 hours per day and add a 0.5cm piece every 3 WEEKS, not days? This doesn't make sense otherwise--you are wearing it less than half the hours and adding length twice as often...

You run that by us again? :confused:
JM

[Dazzlingdaz3]

You must mean to wear the device 4 hours per day and add a 0.5cm piece every 3 WEEKS, not days? This doesn't make sense otherwise--you are wearing it less than half the hours and adding length twice as often...

You run that by us again? :confused:
JM

Hahahahahaha,
JM, I reckon that is a typo in the manual. I too have seen that statement and it doesnt add up. I am more inclined to believe they mean 3 weeks for the special mode ;)

Cheers
Dazz

[jacomarks]

Sheesh--its in the manual that way?! That's sort of a problem if someone tries to follow those instructions...

JM

[jade_permenda]

I have emailed the manufacturers for clarification of this point, I'll let you know what they say as soon as I hear from them!:) ;) :)

[dom_permenda]

Hello

Like Jade I also emailed the manufacturers with regards to this issue and Andro-Medical state the following:

"You have to add the small axis every 3 days during the 1st and the 2nd month, after this every 10-15 days"

Hope this helps

Dom

[jade_permenda]

I believe that the 1st and 2nd months they are referring to are the 1st and 2nd after the initial adaptation period. :)

[Dazzlingdaz3]

I believe that the 1st and 2nd months they are referring to are the 1st and 2nd after the initial adaptation period. :)

HI guys,
Sorry, but tis really isnt sitting very well with me :)

In effect, this equates to adding 2.5cms a month ????? instead of the normal mode of 1cm??? and that is after the one month adaption period. Yet, the manual suggests that the special mode will take longer to gain, yet the stretch has been doubled???

Sorry guys................... I think someone has got their wires crossed on this one LOL :D

Cheers
Dazz

[Dazzlingdaz3]

For the record, I have had my extender for 11 months now. My average hours of use over that time would be approx 3 hours a day - 5 days a week for 7 of those months. My device was setup at 14cm..... 4 cm less than my BPEL initially. I matched device length and BPEL at the end of the second month as per the recommendations ( give or take a week or 2 )

My device length is now at 20.5cm..... 2.5cm more than my starting BPEL, gained over a working 5 month period (20 weeks) this means my average 0.5 cm spacer increase has been every 4 weeks. This is in keeping with the idea of the special mode that progress/gains will be slower.

By following the regular mode of 8 - 10 hours per day, My device setup should now be approx 23cm (BPEL + 5months = 5cms), so I should be extending anywhere from 4 - 5cms more than my original BPEL at this time.. taking into account that the manual states that adding of the bars will slow as one progresses.

Cheers
Dazz

[jade_permenda]

In effect, this equates to adding 2.5cms a month ????? instead of the normal mode of 1cm??? and that is after the one month adaption period. Yet, the manual suggests that the special mode will take longer to gain, yet the stretch has been doubled???
I have double checked with AndroMedical on this one, and their reply was quite emphatic:

As for your question, basically there are two key factors involved in our treatment: time and traction. Less traction means more time, and less time means more traction. There is no risk of injury since you do not wear the device for as many hours as with the standard mode. Besides, the breaks are still mandatory ever two hours (at least).

Also, please bear in mind that the increase rate as of the 3rd month on is the same as in the standard mode.

This does have a logic to it, maybe Jacomarks can offer a more informed opinion, being a doctor, but the manufacturer seems quite sure!:o

[jacomarks]

I will have to think about this some more I guess, but that logic does not immediately make sense to me.

If the goal is to extend the device by 'X' amount in a given period of time, then yes that logic makes since. But that isn't the goal, unless I am quite mistaken. Instead, the goal is to add constant, controlled and deliberate traction to achieve (fairly) predictable tissue growth and hence, penis enlargement. But this technique of adding length more quickly while wearing the device FEWER hours, seems unneccesarily risky to me. Though I have no training in plastic surgery, I have never seen a plastic surgeon increase the tension on an area of skin at an accelerated rate, just to be able to achieve the desired endpoint sooner. Instead they seem to apply and increase tension at a constant rate--and just plan the date of surgery accordingly.

It seems as though the manufacturers are in essence telling you that it's about "gram-hours," and not just simply "hours" of traction. In other words, because you are only wearing the device 4 hours per day, they are telling you to add length (ie; increasing traction) more frequently to make the end product be equal. If that's the case, why do they even recommend the weekly addition of length rods as the preferred method? Why not just have everyone wear the thing for 4 hours per day and add 0.5cm every 3-4 days in the first place? It would certainly improve compliance as it seems to be MUCH easier to wear the extender for half the hours each day.

I would be interested to talk to them about this. Is there evidence in the surgical literature to support this recommendation? As I said, I am not a plastic surgeon so I am not aware of the specifics in the science of tissue stretching. But I do know a couple of plastic surgeons and can speak with them about the generalities of skin stretching. I can also research it a bit more and post again if I can think of anything else to add...

JM

[jade_permenda]

I would be interested to talk to them about this. Is there evidence in the surgical literature to support this recommendation? As I said, I am not a plastic surgeon so I am not aware of the specifics in the science of tissue stretching. But I do know a couple of plastic surgeons and can speak with them about the generalities of skin stretching. I can also research it a bit more and post again if I can think of anything else to add...

JMI look forward to hearing any info you get jaco!!:sm27