Extra Skin

[prettyboy]

I seem to have a really bad case of turkey neck, I have alot of extra scrotum to the point that it bunches around the base of my penis and makes it look shorter than it is (and im a grower so this is even more inconvenient). I'm kinda nervous and am considering going to a doctor, Ive done the research about turkey necks on the site but feel that I am beyond these methods being able to help me. Im really posting because Im totally lost about this, any comments are appreciated

[erissoup]

i have a slight one(i think i always have about a half inch)and is it possible to reverse it or just keep it from getting worse?i do the exercise everyday with more reps that suggested.

[mossman8235]

they say when you jelq, only use one had while using the othe to hold abck the balls and skin.

[erissoup]

but isnt the purpose of the jelq to have a staedy grip and not breaking the milking motion?would that way acheive the same result?

[mossman8235]

well, there is something called the one handed jelq, which i basically described above. a traditional jelq actually makes the turkey neck more noticeable.

[anth1225]

This comes from Falcon and it works,

For turkey neck go into the shower and pull down on your balls gently about 100 times.

[Dazzlingdaz3]

but isnt the purpose of the jelq to have a staedy grip and not breaking the milking motion?would that way acheive the same result?

well, there is something called the one handed jelq, which i basically described above. a traditional jelq actually makes the turkey neck more noticeable.


I prefer the onehanded jelq and I have had girth gains from it, no problem. If you hold the skin back at the base correctly with the free hand, you will also be able to exert a litle pressure at the base of the dorsal vein, which will be similar to non stop milking motion of both hands to a certain extent by not allowing blood to escape as you go the next jelq.

Experimentation will assist you to find the correct method that works for you ;)

Cheers
Dazz

[Bobcat_748]

Hmmmm. Now I'm somewhat confused. The description of the "One-Handed Jelq" on Penishealth.com is as follows:

"... This exercise is different to the standard Jelq as you are performing the Jelq whilst fully erect.

With a 90-100% erection, form an 'OK' grip at the base of your penis with your right hand. Now firmly milk towards the penis head. When you reach the head, repeat the same procedure with your other hand. Do this for the required time/reps and then massage the penis to restore circulation..."

This is basically the way that I have always done the "Regular Jelq" (except for maybe the 90 - 100% erection part). But it says nothing here about using both hands. It looks then, like the "Regular Jelq" would be better, if this is a correct description of the exercise, if you are pulling skin. I too have somewhat of a problem pulling skin, and have apparently been doing the "One-Handed Jelq" as opposed to the "Regular Jelq". There appears to be a lot of confusion as to what means what here, and which exercise is which and which exercise you should be doing/which exercise you are doing. According to the description on PH, the "One-Handed Jelq" is something that should only be tried by an advanced user, and apparently requires a near full erection, because you are not using another hand to help trap the blood????? Could this be right???? Did PH make a mistake???? Anybody?????

[mossman8235]

with the regular jelq you alternate hands, and use lube. based on what you are trying to acheive, length or girth, you do it ata certain erection level. lets say 45% for length and 75% for girth.

the one handed jelq, as i am talking about, you would do the same thing regarding the rection level. however, you use no lube and with one hand you hold back the skin while with the other you jelq. there is no changing hands, unless yours gets tired after a while.

[Bobcat_748]

with the regular jelq you alternate hands, and use lube. based on what you are trying to acheive, length or girth, you do it ata certain erection level. lets say 45% for length and 75% for girth.

the one handed jelq, as i am talking about, you would do the same thing regarding the rection level. however, you use no lube and with one hand you hold back the skin while with the other you jelq. there is no changing hands, unless yours gets tired after a while.

Hmmmm. Thanks mossman. I guess I should copy and paste the exercise you have described hear into a word document and just start keeping my own list. There are certainly some major inconsistancies with the instructions sometimes vs. the way that we should actually be doing them :sm17 :sm17 :sm17 It sometimes makes me question how they can say you "must follow the instructions at penishealth to the letter" when they often do not even put the right description with the right exercise :sm17 :sm17 :sm17 Not that it has caused me any serious problems yet, but it did take me a long time to see any measurable gains when following the instructions "to the letter"--or, at least, what I think they meant :rolleyes:

[mossman8235]

Hmmmm. Thanks mossman. I guess I should copy and paste the exercise you have described hear into a word document and just start keeping my own list. There are certainly some major inconsistancies with the instructions sometimes vs. the way that we should actually be doing them :sm17 :sm17 :sm17 It sometimes makes me question how they can say you "must follow the instructions at penishealth to the letter" when they often do not even put the right description with the right exercise :sm17 :sm17 :sm17 Not that it has caused me any serious problems yet, but it did take me a long time to see any measurable gains when following the instructions "to the letter"--or, at least, what I think they meant :rolleyes:

youre welcome. well, the description im giving might be for a 'different' exercise than they list. theres might be correct for the exercise theyre describing, but for this instance you would want to change it up a bit. plus, mot say jelqing at anything over 90% isnt safe, and id have to agree. yes, for beginners you should follow their instructions, however there are variations that might be better. change this around a bit and you should lose some of that extra skin down there. i actually need to start doing these myself because ive noticed the same thing lol.

[Bobcat_748]

youre welcome. well, the description im giving might be for a 'different' exercise than they list. theres might be correct for the exercise theyre describing, but for this instance you would want to change it up a bit. plus, mot say jelqing at anything over 90% isnt safe, and id have to agree. yes, for beginners you should follow their instructions, however there are variations that might be better. change this around a bit and you should lose some of that extra skin down there. i actually need to start doing these myself because ive noticed the same thing lol.

It does sound like a really effective way to jelq, as far as the extra skin thing goes (mine happens to be at midshaft). The only problem I have noticed with this is, that I can't jelq the entire penis, and may be contributing to the baseball bat effect. LMAO, it's like, you just can't win! If you correct one problem, you then create another one lol.

But to clarify what I was talking about in the previous post:

According to penishealth.com

The One-Handed Jelq Summary

1. As per usual, warm up thoroughly
2. Stroke yourself to a 90-100% erection
3. Sit or stand with your back straight
4. Place right hand on penis in ok sign
5. Slowly milk towards head
6. With left hand come up from base
7. Right hand reaches head and starts again from base
8. Massage to restore circulation


"...This exercise is for advanced users only...ensure you are fully lubricated before commencing this exercise. This exercise is different to the standard Jelq as you are performing the Jelq whilst fully erect.

With a 90-100% erection, form an 'OK' grip at the base of your penis with your right hand. Now firmly milk towards the penis head. When you reach the head, repeat the same procedure with your other hand. Do this for the required time/reps and then massage the penis to restore circulation..."


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According to Mens-Network forum:

The One-Handed Jelq Summary

1. As per usual, warm up thoroughly
2. Achieve a semi erection
3. Sit or stand with your back straight
4. Place right hand at base of penis in ok sign
5. Slowly milk towards head with left hand
7. Left hand reaches head and starts again from base
6. Switch hands after a certain number of Jelqs
8. Massage to restore circulation

“You use no lube and with one hand you hold back the skin while with the other you jelq.”


“I suggest doing a few jelqs with one hand, then switch to the other hand for the same corresponding number of jelqs that the preceding hand just did, and switch again, and so on, and on for your entire jelq session. Meanwhile, while the one hand jelqs, the other hand holds back any loose skin, i.e. "turkey neck", if you so have some.”


“If you hold the skin back at the base correctly with the free hand, you will also be able to exert a litle pressure at the base of the dorsal vein, which will be similar to non stop milking motion of both hands to a certain extent by not allowing blood to escape as you go the next jelq.”


LOL, it looks like we could try using different names, perhaps, for the exercises, especially so that newbies will know which ones we are referring to...

[Bobcat_748]

...To further clarify, I think what everyone is talking about here would be called something like "Jelq & Squeeze", as opposed to "One-Handed Jelq"--afterall, you use two hands when you do it, right?

[mossman8235]

hmm, that descriptions are strange from penis-health. idk why you would jelq with a 90-100% erection. too dangerous for that exercise IMO. as far as the baseball bat effect goes, you need to balance your routine with something that works the mid shaft and base. i used squeezes to help balance out my baseball bat effect. also, try not going all the way to the head during your jelqs. it will lessen that effect a bit. another good exercise for midshaf tnad base girth is the reverse trap jelq. eother of those are fairly easy. or you could do the ferrari mega pump. thats a little more advanced though. i agree, we do need to set up different names for different exercises. we can call the one i described the "turkey neck jelq" lol.

[mossman8235]

...To further clarify, I think what everyone is talking about here would be called something like "Jelq & Squeeze", as opposed to "One-Handed Jelq"--afterall, you use two hands when you do it, right?

well, there already is a jelq and hold type of thing, so that might get confusing.

[Bobcat_748]

hmm, that descriptions are strange from penis-health. idk why you would jelq with a 90-100% erection. too dangerous for that exercise IMO.

An example of what I was saying about following the instructions "to the letter", although there are certainly more examples than just this one, but I won't try to go into all of that now, lol :rolleyes:


as far as the baseball bat effect goes, you need to balance your routine with something that works the mid shaft and base. i used squeezes to help balance out my baseball bat effect. also, try not going all the way to the head during your jelqs. it will lessen that effect a bit. another good exercise for midshaf tnad base girth is the reverse trap jelq. eother of those are fairly easy. or you could do the ferrari mega pump. thats a little more advanced though.

Yeah, I've been doing a variation of the Squeeze, thus far, to try to help keep from developing a Louisville Slugger, LOL. I also plan on looking into the farrari mega pump and reverse jelqs in the future.

i agree, we do need to set up different names for different exercises. we can call the one i described the "turkey neck jelq" lol.

LOL! There you go!

[mossman8235]

An example of what I was saying about following the instructions "to the letter", although there are certainly more examples than just this one, but I won't try to go into all of that now, lol :rolleyes:


yea, well according to everyone here, and common sense, thats a little too dangerous. but i know what youre saying

Yeah, I've been doing a variation of the Squeeze, thus far, to try to help keep from developing a Louisville Slugger, LOL. I also plan on looking into the farrari mega pump and reverse jelqs in the future.

good, that should help. haha, louisville slugger, thats a good one. those are two good exercises though. the ferrari trio is the way to go though.

LOL! There you go!

i should get a copyright on that thing lol.



happy new years eve (had to use 10 characters lol)

[Dazzlingdaz3]

Hmmmm. Thanks mossman. I guess I should copy and paste the exercise you have described hear into a word document and just start keeping my own list. There are certainly some major inconsistancies with the instructions sometimes vs. the way that we should actually be doing them :sm17 :sm17 :sm17 It sometimes makes me question how they can say you "must follow the instructions at penishealth to the letter" when they often do not even put the right description with the right exercise :sm17 :sm17 :sm17 Not that it has caused me any serious problems yet, but it did take me a long time to see any measurable gains when following the instructions "to the letter"--or, at least, what I think they meant :rolleyes:

Hi mate,

The PH recommendations are VERY clear!
Where the difference comes from is us guys that tend to adapt our own variations to the PH exercise for our own reasons, comfort, practicality etc, then list them on the forum, after awhile, one tends to forget the correct PH way to explain an exercises and we explain our variation instead which is what leads to the confusion. Basically, its not hard, When in doubt ALWAYS refer back the PH recommendation ;)

One really has to remember that there are 2 main exercises, stretching and jelq. All the other fancy named advanced exercises are just variations of the basic exercises or require the use of apparatus. The most important thing that applies to ALL the exercises is to do them correctly and with the right amount of intensity ;)

I would even go so far as to suggest that the pH routines you followed are indeed responsible for your gains and you were on the verge of getting them anyway, before you changed the routine. That is the danger with chopping and changing routines too much in the early days, you will never know what was ultimately responsible for the gains


Cheers
Dazz