Cumming after Jelquing

[5 and counting]

Can i jerk off after i do like 250 jelqs ? normally when i get blood flowing afterwards i want to will i lose any possible corpus caverna gains id i do?

[Bobcat_748]

I don't speak with any authority on this, but I ran across something a few days ago that you might want to read. From Wikipedia:

A 2001 study[2] examined the effect of a 3-week period of sexual abstinence followed by masturbation-induced orgasm. It found that abstinence over such periods "does not change the neuroendocrine response to orgasm but does produce elevated levels of testosterone in males."
A 2003 study[3] showed that serum testosterone levels reach a peak seven days after abstaining from ejaculation.

To read this entire article go here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosteron

The reason I mentioned this is because I have been doing some reading about different hormones and how they effect penile growth. To my surprise, I found that testosterone is the primary hormone responsible for penile growth during adolescence (I thought it was a growth hormone), so, depending upon your age, you may want to keep that in mind.

[FullKontact]

depending upon your age, you may want to keep that in mind.

As in his body hasn't finished growing (it's at 21 you stop growing, right?) or that if he's older he doesen't recover as fast as if he was younger?

[Bobcat_748]

FullKontact Quote:
"As in his body hasn't finished growing (it's at 21 you stop growing, right?) or that if he's older he doesen't recover as fast as if he was younger? "

I was thinking more along the lines of it's effect on potential growth. I was a late finisher (I started at around the normal time, but didn't finish until into my early 20s). I wish I had known about this at that time :(

Regardless, I would still try to abstain from excessive masturbation during PE. We now know that it decreases testosterone levels, which might be beneficial to what we are trying to accomplish.

[Bobcat_748]

We now know that it decreases testosterone levels, which might be beneficial to what we are trying to accomplish.

The higher levels, that is.

[5 and counting]

yeah k so ill try not to jerk off after doing jelqing and stretching thanks

[jade_permenda]

Hi, you might want to search the forum for 3 hour rule for more information about this, and there is a good article about this in the articles forum- hope this helps:spin:

[NeedHalfAnInch]

I'll be 22 next month. It's pretty safe to say that my growing days(down there) are over, right?

I was always under the impression that your genitals stop growing at 18.

[Bobcat_748]

I'll be 22 next month. It's pretty safe to say that my growing days(down there) are over, right?

I was always under the impression that your genitals stop growing at 18.

Yeah, that would be a pretty safe bet. I still think the higher testosterone levels may be beneficial to the process, however.

[turtle]

Pretty good discussion but the bottom line is still to avoid masturbation in the +/- window of three hours. It's not that goddamn hard. Granted I am an old man, but hell, I still rememember what it was like to be young. Control your physical emotions! It's psychological, but do it. You want to have the best chance for gains, or do you want to do it half ass. Your choice, my suggestion is to become a man, and make a decision. Quit playing games, give yourself the best chance of solid real gains. OK, enough speech making on my part.
turtle

[Bobcat_748]

Pretty good discussion but the bottom line is still to avoid masturbation in the +/- window of three hours. It's not that goddamn hard. Granted I am an old man, but hell, I still rememember what it was like to be young. Control your physical emotions! It's psychological, but do it. You want to have the best chance for gains, or do you want to do it half ass. Your choice, my suggestion is to become a man, and make a decision. Quit playing games, give yourself the best chance of solid real gains. OK, enough speech making on my part.
turtle


Well said! I think if I was PEing at a younger age I would have used it as a good reason NOT to masturbate, regardless of how bad the urge. Once you're in your twenties, you should be able to control yourself, for the most part, if you really try. Just as I used PE as a reason to quit using tobacco, the same would apply to masturbation.

And I'm not sure about the benefits of higher test levels when doing PE, but regardless, masturbation has been said to be detrimental to the process when done within the time window.

[Powerdude]

FullKontact Quote:
"As in his body hasn't finished growing (it's at 21 you stop growing, right?) or that if he's older he doesen't recover as fast as if he was younger? "

I was thinking more along the lines of it's effect on potential growth. I was a late finisher (I started at around the normal time, but didn't finish until into my early 20s). I wish I had known about this at that time :(

Regardless, I would still try to abstain from excessive masturbation during PE. We now know that it decreases testosterone levels, which might be beneficial to what we are trying to accomplish.


execissive?!... is once or twice a day excessiv?

[theCUlt]

A good suppliment to take is a magnesium mineral tablet that has zinc in it, i use Spring valley Natural Magnesium, it has Magnesium (As magnesium Oxide) 400mg 100% daily value and it also has Zinc (As zinc gluconate) 15mg 100% daily value, i take three of them a day. Taken together help the reproductive organs develop normally.

this page talks about Chlorophyll : http://www.bluechineseherbs.com/catalog/articles.php?tPath=10


" Chlorophyll has also been proven to build blood, renew tissue growth, "

" The carbohydrate structure of cereal grasses has special value. It contains large quantities of mucopolysacchirides (MPS). These MPS strengthen all body tissues, especially the connective tissues (tendons, ligaments and cartilage) making them more elastic and resilient. They are also strongly anti-inflammatory and strengthen the heart and guard against deterioration of arteries.

Green foods, especially the cereal grasses are also important in the maintenance of healthy liver function, Liver congestion and stagnation result in conditions ranging from muscular tension and cramping to the inflammations of arthritis, sciatica, and acid reflux as well as blood sugar instability, mood disorders and depression. "


Good stuff. I have a mild mitro valve prolapse and cannot take all the pills that help out on penis enlargment , so i researched and researched and found a wide assortment of herbs that do very well. Taking allt hese herbal suppliments have helped me to gain a half inch in length in two weeks. Also in that time, I did NOT have an orgasm. I didn't tell my girlfriend that i had gain that much in the two weeks time, and after we had sex, the first thing she said was it was logner, and she was dazed saying how her whole body tingled. I also eat the unsulfurized version of Crystalized ginger root, that really helps out on good blood flow through the entire body. In taht two weeks time i also started getting into clamping. I did three sessions of clamping in the two week period. I do Just like they say here on the forum, i do my warm ups, stretches, Jelq's and then administer the clamp, im slowly working into the clamp session ,ever so mildly,dry jelqs(DO NOT use extreme pressure like you do in a normal jelq session, just a mild , MILD amount of pressure, and make sure you are conditioned for a good few months, beggingers i DO NOT advise doing this!) as i am clamped off. The whole time i am clamped i massage the shaft of my penis to help smaller blood vessels to enlarge, and also the penis head. I can tell the clamping is helping alot on makign the shaft longer and penis head larger and plumper. CHEROKEE NATION! ;P Peace!