When will the results for the clinical trial be in?

[boroboy4u]

I will be very interested to see these results and then Ill probably make my mind up from there.

[Paul_Permenda]

They are quite a while off yet boroboy.

It has taken far longer than we expected so far, mainly because there has been so little done on penis enlargement officially in the past and so a lot of research has been needed. Additionally neither of the companies we are working with have done anything too similar to this so there is a lot of paperwork to sort out and so on.

It is probably still another 12 months or so away I am afraid. Why not give the program a try anyway? There are plenty of guys on here reporting some fantastic gains and if it doesnt work for you we do have a 6 month money back guarantee :)

[boroboy4u]

Could you give me an update of when you expect the clinical trial results to be in please? I posted back in May originally so hopefully now in October you will have been given some dates.

[boroboy4u]

Hi moderators you able to help?

[anth1225]

No we aren't employed by the company and aren't involved in the research.

anth

[boroboy4u]

Well Im sure someone off here must have a rough idea of when the results can be expected Im not asking for a specific date? I am only interested in seeing factual results because with all due respect there are too many companies out there misleading people about their products! Its hard to expect people however genuine it may be to fully have confidence in a product or techniques without proper proof in your case an independent trial which I think along with alot of other people is a fantastic idea at last!

If we can be given a rough results date which Im sure if your the subject of this trial you will have at least some idea of this will be very much appreciated!

[CanuckMan]

Well, not to be rude or anything. But, there are alot of drug companies that will release something saying it's been tested safe. Then, years later, "oh, by the way, it causes exploding spleens! ...sorry". Of course, that's an exaggeration (Right? eep), but maybe you know what I mean. No matter what, whether some "study" says it is legit, or thousands of members on this forum say it is, how do YOU know for sure that it is? After all, aren't both of those things meaning you are basically taking someone else's "word" for something? The answer is, you don't know until you try it. But, before you do, you can try to do research on it, discuss it with others who have done it, then you make the best educated decision you can. That's not just PE, that is everything in life of course. :)

I will say if you put the time in, and stay motivated, PE will provide results. If you wait until the study comes out, and it "proves" PE works (which it will...because it does), and you join. You'll be angry at the gains you could have had all this time. But...don't take my "word" for it, browse the forum, research the company online, even try some of the free exercises. After you gain that first little bit, you'll know the truth..."the proof is in the ruler" as I say :P. Hope that was what you were looking for. :)

[boroboy4u]

Hi thanks for your reply I understand what you are saying I have done many months research on this product and have been very tempted to buy the size genetics extender device! I've spoken to people on and off the forums but really there is only one question I would like to know the answer to and thats when roughly can we expect the trial results to be in?

If someone please can give me an idea when these results can be expected then I wont have to keep going on about it and believe me I dont want to! Its just the lack of an answer here is beginning to make me feel less sure of the whole thing and I am trying to be polite as possible. I have been asking this question for a while now I hope you can understand my point of view.

[turtle]

I don't really know the answer since I am not controlling the research study, but I recall an earlier comment that the study was going to take a long time. For all the obvious reasons considering that Penis Enlargement takes a long time, the control factors of the study, and time it takes to evaluate the results. My guess, is that you are probably looking at another nine months to a year before the study is complete. If you don't want to spend the money on an extender until you see the results, then focus on manual PE. You can cause a very serious result, growth, in nine months time, or you can sit back and do nothing waiting for the results of a study. PE works and the sooner that you get started the sooner that you will achieve some results.
turtle

[Paul_Permenda]

Hi guys,

Turtle is right, unfortunately we are still some way from getting any results in for you.

It has been a process that has taken much longer than we expected and there have been numerous problems to overcome since we started. The fact that very little has been done in this area before means there is a lot to consider and we will not rush this and end up with results that are perceived as unfair or influenced in any way.

Just to clarify it is PenisHealth which is under clinical trial. SizeGenetics has already been clinically proven in several trials (there is a new one underway too), details of which can be found here: http://www.sizegenetics.com/medically_backed.html

[boroboy4u]

Ok back after 2 years and was interested to find out how this clinical trial went. I see that they say that there was an increase of upto 30%. Can someone please tell me the company that undertook the clinical research?

[Big Al]

Ok back after 2 years and was interested to find out how this clinical trial went. I see that they say that there was an increase of upto 30%. Can someone please tell me the company that undertook the clinical research?

In the two years that you've been researching and waiting- have you done any PE yourself? It's likely that you could have achieved your goals by now.

[boroboy4u]

Yeh it was a decision I took not to undertake any excercises untill I was sure and I did have my doubts with the amount of emails, websites telling you it was all possible. The clinical research was a great oppurtunity to see clear scientific evidence of peoples progress. The one thing I dont want to come across is negative because Im asking these kind of questions but its because I dont want to mess with my willy and fork out the money untill I know a bit more about the clinical research.

I hope you dont mind me asking the question again?

[anth1225]

Well they're the ones saying they were conducting a clinical trial so I think they should answer for themselves.
My clinical trial so far has been affirmative lol.

Yes, don't mind the asking but please don't clutter the threads with continuing to ask the same question again and again.

anth

[Big Al]

Yeh it was a decision I took not to undertake any excercises untill I was sure and I did have my doubts with the amount of emails, websites telling you it was all possible. The clinical research was a great oppurtunity to see clear scientific evidence of peoples progress. The one thing I dont want to come across is negative because Im asking these kind of questions but its because I dont want to mess with my willy and fork out the money untill I know a bit more about the clinical research.

I hope you dont mind me asking the question again?

The only difference between a clinical trial and the anecdotes from the many thousands of men that have successfully done PE is that the trial is conducted by a third party.

Waiting on one company to conduct a trial in order to proceed with PE just strikes me as odd (no offesnse intended). Surely the staggering amount of anecdotal evidence available on the internet as well as the numerous studies done of different methods of penis enlargement and documented in medical journals would be enough for you to make a decision.

[boroboy4u]

But surely surely you understand where Im coming from. If I where to invest in anything then if there is scientific evidence by a reputable company available then you'd want to be able to freely look at this information surely? Guys I dont understand why I am getting replies but no answer, why am I being judged so harshly for asking a perfectly simple, non-offensive honest question?

[anth1225]

No one is judging you. You simply asked a question that no one on the boards, mods included cannot answer, but they gave you good advice.

Anyway I sure hope this thread does not disintergrate into a flame or negative griping ect ect.

Let's not make this personal.

So you asked your question it hasn't been answered yet. Leave it at that for now.

But you should know clinical trials for approval by the government can easily take millions of dollars and over 10 years.

[metalman]

Even if PE were to get government approval by the FDA here in the US or approval in another country i still don't think that means you should take that as gold.The FDA has approved drugs that have since been taken off the shelves for causing harm many years after the clinical trials have been done.It's a business and goverment officials have been bought off by drug companies for years through political contributions and such.With that in mind i don't put a whole lot of trust in goverment approval of anything.There's all sorts of miracle pills out there being advertised to enlarge the penis but it's only temporary.They can help you achieve gains but you don't need them.They will increase your blood pressure so if you have high blood pressure it's best to avoid pills.I've been doing manual exercises for close to 2 years and yes it does work.I've gained 1 1/16 in length and 1/4 in girth.Penis health offers a free newbie routine and there's advanced exercise tutorials posted here in the forums.You don't need to spend a dime on anything but you have to be willing to take the chance for yourself.There's risk in everything you do but if you take your time and take the advice of the folks here on the forums i think you'll be suprised when you see some initial results for yourself.It's your decision.

[Big Al]

But surely surely you understand where Im coming from. If I where to invest in anything then if there is scientific evidence by a reputable company available then you'd want to be able to freely look at this information surely? Guys I dont understand why I am getting replies but no answer, why am I being judged so harshly for asking a perfectly simple, non-offensive honest question?

Ah, but that's what I'm talking about right there. You don't have to invest in anything- at least not initially. Gadgets and devices have their place if you're looking for training variety or you're an advanced trainee looking to break a plateau, but you can do manual PE for free, and it often yields superior results. There's enough free information on this forum for you to get you started.

I don't think anyone here is being harsh towards you, but as some of the other posters have noted, the trials for this particular device hasn't been completed yet. Again, it strikes me as odd that you haven't done anyt further research and that your doing PE is being put on hold due to the delays of one particular product's trials.

BTW, there have been studies and reports done on similar products-

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16750

http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16683

[CanuckMan]

Honestly, you guys hit the nail on the head after the question was asked again that's why I didn't really want to bother responding to add to the redundancy. If you don't want to buy the device first before the study which will probably take a long time, but are still obviously interested in PE, there's no reason to not do manual PE in the meantime. There's a greater picture here that hasn't been mentioned yet, so that's why I decided to post. You see, there's a lot of people that exploit men's size insecurities out there, many doctors even, as well as 94% of the spam in my email inbox. How happy do you think any of those people would be if this study comes out and shows all of those scam artists as what they are?! Think about it...so this study has to be AIRTIGHT BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, making it as hard as possible to try to nitpick anything about it to try to get it thrown out, so there's quite a lot to be done in order to pave the way for this study so men have someone legitimate to turn to instead of a doctor ripping open his penis irresponsibly causing massive damage, or some pills he buys from some spam email that either do nothing or just get his credit card number stolen, it breaks my heart to think of all those men out there with nowhere to turn and think they have no chance to improve their situation!

Honestly, if you would have given manual PE a try before you wouldn't even NEED the device by now you'd probably have all the increases in size you'd want and then some so it would be moot. Like I said two years ago, just because a company does a study to say something's safe, even then it's not 100%. I said before that so many times now a company years later will pull a drug from the market saying "oh, it causes incurable blah, or interacts badly with medication of blah" etc. So it's not like a study is a blanket catch-all 100% proven to be perfect scenario. The best way to achieve that is to research, speak to individuals with experience in that area, gain as much knowledge from them as possible, then make an informed decision. This is basically the same post I made two years ago. Since you came back after all this time you must be very interested in PE and quite frankly, you should be, because it works...we would love nothing more than to help you! Start with manual PE, it's free, and it's all you really need to get some nice gains going! I hope you decide to give it a shot with us.

[anth1225]

canuckman makes an excellent point. Just because a doctor says something is safe doesn't always necessarily make it so.
There was an old saying that held the day before America became fodder for sue happy ambulance chasing lawyers.
It was: Buyer Beware
The onus or burden was put upon the consumer to make sure something was safe or right for him/her.
This made for a smarter, self reliant consumer rather than the dolts who now sue if the coffee is too hot at McDonald's.
Whatever happened to self responsibility?
The Government can't "Baby-proof" the world and the sooner people remember that the better off everyone will be.