Size Genetics device interefering with gains from PE??

[scoobydooo]

So recently I bought the size genetics device. I haven't really used it much since it is so uncomfortable. However, this discomfort can obviously be fixed. I want to start wearing it on a daily basis, but I am worried that I may over-train my penis if I use the device after or soon after PEing for 2+ hours. I find that the head of my penis gets cold when I use the device, due to bloodflow being blocked partially. I don't want this blockage or over-training to hinder my gains from PEing. Does anyone know if in fact the Size Genetics device will interfere with my gains from PE?

[scoobydooo]

Sorry, when I meant "2+ hours", I meant the time that I will wear the Size Genetics device, NOT the time it takes for me to PE which usually lasts for 45 minutes to an hour.

I wish the people who run this site would fix the "edit" button... it never works!

[turtle]

It shouldn't interfer, it should actually be a compliment because it is different form of stretch. The SG is a long slow stretch as opposed to PE's short and intense stretch.
turtle

[scoobydooo]

so what if the head of my penis gets cold when wearing the SG? Doesn't that mean that blood flow is blocked to that area therefore interfering with my gains? What do you suggest to remedy this?

[turtle]

Scooby
Think about it, the head is cold. Most PE has nothing to do with increasing the size of your head. Clearly, what you should be doing is removing the SG and massaging about once an hour to restore the blood flow. None of this will impair the potential gains from PE to any large extent. I am not saying that there couldn't be some negative effect, but I would say the positive effects of the SG would outweigh the negative effects of the blood constriction. Again the blood constriction is typically limited to the head, where the noose of the SG is acting as a restrictor. Granted, I never really used the SG. My comments are based on my familiarity with the process rather than personal experience, but I think that my comments are appropriate. Perhaps one of the mods that have a little more experience with the SG would like to join into this conversation.
turtle

[scoobydooo]

alright thanks for your input turtle! You've been very helpful. Btw I noticed that your "current" gains are listed as of 2005. Have you not been PEing this whole time, but have still kept those great gains? I'm still a little skeptical about whether or not the gains are actually permanent and whether or not you have to keep up a light training regimen throughout your life to keep those gains.

[turtle]

I haven't done anything except PC work for several years, and I haven't lost a thing.
turtle

[scoobydooo]

so let me get this straight... all youve done over the past several years is work your PC muscle with no PEing at all and you've still kept your gains??

[Earendil]

Why should you lose gains? The goal of PE is to softly tear tissue (right word?) apart so that it gets filled up with new cells; why should these new cells disappear all of a sudden?

[scoobydooo]

well, even though it is not a muscle, and is only made of tissue, I feel like if it's not being worked out constantly with some type of training regimen like a muscle, it will slowly revert back to it's original size, know what I mean? Or maybe that only happens in the beginning stages of PE for people who just give up after a few months? idk

[turtle]

Remember something, I did PE rather religiously for a period of two years. After my last measurement I did a solid three months of PE to cement my gains. My cement time was longer than many peoples serious PE time. Why would I lie to you, no one is paying me any money to be on this forum. I just do this because I like to help people. If you find that hard to believe that is your problem, not mine.
turtle

[scoobydooo]

Remember something, I did PE rather religiously for a period of two years. After my last measurement I did a solid three months of PE to cement my gains. My cement time was longer than many peoples serious PE time. Why would I lie to you, no one is paying me any money to be on this forum. I just do this because I like to help people. If you find that hard to believe that is your problem, not mine.
turtle

:sm39 I never said I didn't believe you... I just wanted some clarification. My question was whether or not you have to keep up a light training regimen to keep the gains over many years. You said you just do PC work and were able to keep your gains. I wasn't sure if PC was a typo and instead maybe you meant to write PE, thats why I wanted some clarification. Sorry if you took it the wrong way. I appreciate that you took the time to answer my question.

So finally, for clarification purposes... to keep your gains you:

1) Did a light (or was it heavy?) PE training session for 3 months to cement your gains.
2) Currently do PC work on a consistent basis

I just really want to know this so I can be sure what to do to keep my gains when I stop PEing.

[anth1225]

I know you have been talking to turtle regarding this but the questions you are asking about ie. how long exercising; light or heavy workouts to cement gains would answer themselves if you commit yourself to the workout and just do it.

No one can tell you intensity, light or heavy because they are all subjective to the individual.

As a rule it's considered wise to do maintenance routine which would be considered "light", based upon your experience, I mean, what would be a light workout for you.

Having said that there have been lots of testimony from folks who have not done any maintenance at all and maybe after a few years lost a 1/16 or a 1/8.

As Big Al has said that when his shoulder got dislocated he asked his doc if the ligs would shrink so it wouldn't happen again.
His doc answered that ligs don't shrink that much.

Remember that this is a self help forum and we don't mind helping out but we have answered questions like these thousands of times and it can wear thin.

Doing a simple word search for info is always a plus, doing your own legwork to find answers and then seeking answers for things unclear is always welcomed.

But when no effort is made or minimal effort is made by folks who don't do the work and basically expect us to walk them through every minor facet, well it's not going to happen.

As turtle said we are volunteers, fellow PE-ers and not employees.

We'll give a nudge in the right direction, we will expect others to study as we did.

I understand you want clarification but look over the thread and read it again. Put yourself in turtles shoes and see if it were you and someone was being a bit anal about things how you would respond?

Food for thought.

anth

[turtle]

I wouldn't call my 3 months of cementing, lite. It was a pretty solid work routine. When I said PC I meant PC. Fairly consistent, I ride the train one hour each way every day. Pretty easy to get in a good PC workout. Scooby, your a good member and I wasn't mad. I was just trying to make my point rather clearly.
turtle

[scoobydooo]

so anth, I wasn't looking for an easy way out, my workouts are always intense, I was just wondering what the method was for cementing my gains.

alright, thanks guys. I'll try to keep the search button in mind. Thanks again for the clarification turtle. :cool:

[anth1225]

Ok my bad, thks scooby