Month passed and no results yet

[man82]

hi

I did PE 4 months ago for 1 month... then quit.... Now started again. First month has passed but no significant gains yet..only that erections are rock hard:D... so my routine was :
1-st week:
warmup,7 LS (5 directions, each 15 secs) , 2 PS, 150 jelq, 20 needle,warmdown
2-nd week:
warmup,10 LS (5 directions, each 15 secs) , 3 PS, 175 jelq, 30 needle,warmdown
3-rd week:
warmup,12 LS (5 directions, each 15 secs) , 4 PS, 200 jelq, 30 needle,warmdown
4-th week:
warmup,13 LS (5 directions, each 15 secs) , 5 PS, 250 jelq, 30 needle,warmdown

(LS-long schlong, PS-power strech)
Oh yeah and I did 5 days on 2 off... I have no possibility to do 3 on 1 off 2 on 1 off

Next month doin about the same routine but LS will be 20 secs each direction this time and i shall increase jelq number a bit. not giving up this time.

If you guys have some suggestions, feel free to tell me.

[koopa]

from my month of experience i would think your better off doing 2 on 1 off... 2 on 2 off...over doing it will not help you at all, 5 days in a row seems like over kill to me

[man82]

okay thanks, will try

[man82]

okay so another month has passed...

did 2 on 1 off 2 on 2 off

the second month's routine was:
week1: warmup 5mins,10 LS (5 directions, each 20 secs) , 200 jelq (4 sec each), warmdown 5mins
week2: warmup 5mins,10 LS (5 directions, each 20 secs) , 250 jelq (4 sec each), warmdown 5mins
week3: warmup 5mins,11 LS (5 directions, each 20 secs) , 300 jelq (4 sec each), warmdown 5mins
week4: warmup 5mins,11 LS (5 directions, each 20 secs) , 350 jelq (4 sec each), warmdown 5mins

Lately I discovered Dry Jelq...I think it's much more intense and effective than Jelq, becaz during the dry jelqs i thought my schlong would xplode and another plus is that you don't need to use babyoil ;) So this next month ill be usin it

I read alot of Threads and saw that some guys had to go for 5 months and even after that the gains werent that big...they have heart - respect to them (Y)...you just need so much dedication to it... thats crazy willpower. Makes me kinda feel sad for all of this PE. So much time and effort becaz you didnt have the long schlong genes and it wasnt your fault becaz you cant really choose the schlong size when you get born... so thats kinda depressing\unfair...

About my gains...I kinda measured it and MAYBE I gained 0,236 inch (length) but mybe not... just the measure mistake....With my eye I dont really make the difference. So im pretty sure it's the measurement mistake.

But I will not give up.... gonna bust my ballz and try to go on for another 4 months or so... If by then i dont get total gain of 1 inch then ill quit probobly :D or not...

Thought this next month will repeat the 2nd month routine, the only thing is that the streches would be 25 sec each this time and dry jelqs instead of jelqs...

Suggestions are still welcome.

Also, I have a Q about breaks... Whats the thing about taking a week off after you have PE-d for 1 month...is it ok to do it or it gonna slow things down ?

[adsss]

I suggest that you keep on trying with the dry jelq. it works perfectly and in my opinion works the best and has the best results because you have a better grip of your blood and where it's going. Im glad that you haven't given up!

For the jelq, i kinda do it differently with the time/reps also.
I do every jelq rep 15 seconds each for 8 min (im in the beginner 20-25) but i may switch to the 3 sec to see how effective it is.

good luck!

[anth1225]

Regarding the 1 week break after 4 weeks of exercising it's like a mini deconditioning break.

Your body has a tendency to adjust to stress, that's how it grows stronger. So after awhile you're not getting the same benefits from the exercises.

It's a way of getting your body to not adapt too quickly to your routine.

[man82]

Took the break anyway because i got injured.
Be careful everyone... The back of ur dicks head which connects to the shaft...Theres this so called bridge... Firstly it started to hurt after some hard workouts but I thought ah what the hell... a little pain wont do harm
So i was doin my LS-ing and felt kinda wet, looked down.. there was some blood pooring out... but it stopped pretty quickly... got scared shitless lol... so I took a break

[anth1225]

Discomfort is to be expected but pain is always bad.

Reduce your intensity when you resume your workouts.

When you're a newbie intensity is less of an issue as is doing the exercises properly and consistently.

[garry537757]

Regarding the 1 week break after 4 weeks of exercising it's like a mini deconditioning break.

Your body has a tendency to adjust to stress, that's how it grows stronger. So after awhile you're not getting the same benefits from the exercises.

It's a way of getting your body to not adapt too quickly to your routine.

I know this is for the jelqs but is it the same for the Penis Stretchers? Are you supposed to take a break for a day?

Gaz

[adsss]

Took the break anyway because i got injured.
Be careful everyone... The back of ur dicks head which connects to the shaft...Theres this so called bridge... Firstly it started to hurt after some hard workouts but I thought ah what the hell... a little pain wont do harm
So i was doin my LS-ing and felt kinda wet, looked down.. there was some blood pooring out... but it stopped pretty quickly... got scared shitless lol... so I took a break

Jesus how hard were you pulling?! and how long?

[man82]

how hard? i wouldnt say it was that hard... i think i accedentally pulled the "bridge's" skin instead of the shaft. And i was doin 20 sec LS-es while it happend. If your "bridge" doesnt hurt i think it wont happen to u , so dun worry

Oh yeah and anth1225. You are saying:
"When you're a newbie intensity is less of an issue as is doing the exercises properly and consistently."

"doing exercises properly and consistently" - but properly is intense IMO... u cant just jelq or LS with no intensity at all...there will not be any effect =)...
Hmm well i could drop from my 100% intensity to 75% intensity... Mybe that would be better.

[anth1225]

I know this is for the jelqs but is it the same for the Penis Stretchers? Are you supposed to take a break for a day?

Gaz

I don't know if breaks work with stretchers because they apply less intensity over long periods. Perhaps those using the stretcher could comment...

[ddasilva]

you should give more than 1 month before you evaluate your results.... give it a little more time

[Stanko]

how hard? i wouldnt say it was that hard... i think i accedentally pulled the "bridge's" skin instead of the shaft. And i was doin 20 sec LS-es while it happend. If your "bridge" doesnt hurt i think it wont happen to u , so dun worry

Oh yeah and anth1225. You are saying:
"When you're a newbie intensity is less of an issue as is doing the exercises properly and consistently."

"doing exercises properly and consistently" - but properly is intense IMO... u cant just jelq or LS with no intensity at all...there will not be any effect =)...
Hmm well i could drop from my 100% intensity to 75% intensity... Mybe that would be better.

Boss...

You need to seriously calm down and take a break. I exhausted myself in the first three months to the point where I couldn't even have an erection. You're doing too much, you have to allow the muscles to recuperate. You can't do pectorals five times a week can you? Of course not, so why do it with a delicate and small muscle?

Take it easy and do only the minimum.


Stanko

[man82]

Third month passed...
The routine was:
week1: warmup 5mins,10 LS (5 directions, each 25 secs) , 220 dryjelq (4 sec each), 50 squeeze (4 sec each), warmdown 5mins
week2: warmup 5mins,10 LS (5 directions, each 25 secs) , 250 dryjelq (4 sec each), 50 squeeze (4 sec each), warmdown 5mins
week3: warmup 5mins,10 LS (5 directions, each 25 secs) , 270 dryjelq (4 sec each), 50 squeeze (4 sec each), warmdown 5mins
week4: warmup 5mins,10 LS (5 directions, each 25 secs) , 290 dryjelq (4 sec each), 50 squeeze (4 sec each), warmdown 5mins

3 on 1 off 1 on 2 off

Since started, I gained 0,324 inch in length, and 0,118 inch in grith...Feels I deserve more with that time but o well... guess not that fast of a gainer
Taking a week off...After that ill try to make a new routine and come back again after a month, and comment how it went.

If you have suggestions feel free...

Stanko, what do you mean by doing the minimum. What do you suggest?

[anth1225]

You say you do 10 sets of LS with each set going 5 directions each set? Is each set 25 secs or 125 secs?
If you went 25 secs for each pull that would make your length workout about 21 minutes.
If you went 25 secs each set would make your length routine 4 minutes which would be way too short.

[garry537757]

you should give more than 1 month before you evaluate your results.... give it a little more time

I've tried everything. All the exersises I've got an SG which I wear 4 to 6 hours a day and got some vigrx tabs which I have used for a month but nothing seems to work. Been doing this since the begining of October but not seen any gains at all. Not sure what else to do. I am begining to loose faith please does anyone know any way I can get a little sign that my efforts are not waisted?

[Big Al]

I've tried everything. All the exersises I've got an SG which I wear 4 to 6 hours a day and got some vigrx tabs which I have used for a month but nothing seems to work. Been doing this since the begining of October but not seen any gains at all. Not sure what else to do. I am begining to loose faith please does anyone know any way I can get a little sign that my efforts are not waisted?

Please post a detailed account of the routine(s) you've been following.

[man82]

You say you do 10 sets of LS with each set going 5 directions each set? Is each set 25 secs or 125 secs?
If you went 25 secs for each pull that would make your length workout about 21 minutes.
If you went 25 secs each set would make your length routine 4 minutes which would be way too short.

length workout is 21 minutes yes. In real time that takes like 45-50 minutes

[metalman]

I've tried everything. All the exersises I've got an SG which I wear 4 to 6 hours a day and got some vigrx tabs which I have used for a month but nothing seems to work. Been doing this since the begining of October but not seen any gains at all. Not sure what else to do. I am begining to loose faith please does anyone know any way I can get a little sign that my efforts are not waisted?

don't loose faith just yet.i didn't see my first gain til my fourth month.just keep a consistent routine & it'll come.don't judge your gains by how others progress cause we all gain differently & some of us are just hard gainers.

[garry537757]

Thanks I'll just keep plodding on and hope to see results soon.

[Stanko]

Third month passed...
The routine was:
week1: warmup 5mins,10 LS (5 directions, each 25 secs) , 220 dryjelq (4 sec each), 50 squeeze (4 sec each), warmdown 5mins
week2: warmup 5mins,10 LS (5 directions, each 25 secs) , 250 dryjelq (4 sec each), 50 squeeze (4 sec each), warmdown 5mins
week3: warmup 5mins,10 LS (5 directions, each 25 secs) , 270 dryjelq (4 sec each), 50 squeeze (4 sec each), warmdown 5mins
week4: warmup 5mins,10 LS (5 directions, each 25 secs) , 290 dryjelq (4 sec each), 50 squeeze (4 sec each), warmdown 5mins

3 on 1 off 1 on 2 off

Since started, I gained 0,324 inch in length, and 0,118 inch in grith...Feels I deserve more with that time but o well... guess not that fast of a gainer
Taking a week off...After that ill try to make a new routine and come back again after a month, and comment how it went.

If you have suggestions feel free...

Stanko, what do you mean by doing the minimum. What do you suggest?

If this doesn't work, you may not be warming up properly. I noticed better workouts when my bhoy was completely limp. Though if this isn't it, then try different exercises.

For instance, the LS Heli is one some like while some say is ineffective. For me I noticed a huge difference once I incorporated the squeeze into my routine. I found doing too many jelqs exhausted everything, where as the squeeze went to the heart of the matter so to speak. Mix it up, and find the combo or exercise that works best. I can't tell you what to do, only not to give up.

If there's one trick I do know of that worked wonders for me was hanging then streching. BEFORE DOING THIS once must warmup properly. Then hang for roughly 5-10 mins, if not a little longer. Weight depending on how far advanced you are on the hanging spectrum.

Now, after that go into a stretching routine for me I did my basic Long Schlongs, Helis, and Double Handed Schlongs. Now this was how I say....EFFECTIVE. I'm supposing, because I've no medical evidence to prove it, that the hanging loosened the ligs enough to allow true stretching whist manual pulling. I believe that the ligs were pulled to the point of almost tearing, then while pulling, and I did this in a controlled, or as I might say 'pull as feel' basis where I could feel the ligs almost loosening or stretching to new lengths, BUT NOT TO THE POINT OF PAIN. You'll know when/if you get there if you try, but if you do be cautious and it should only be done after about a six months of PE.

I didn't do this with every length exercise, but once a week and I only did a length exercise 3 times weekly. With maybe a girth here and there to help.

About doing the minimum, I meant that I noticed the 3121 formula was simply too much stress on the ligs. It led to a serious problem, because I did everything as ordered by PenisHealth website, and believe me when I follow a training regimen I do it perfectly.

I therefore did more research and followed the advice of Big Al, and I realized that the ligs in your penis aren't much different from other parts of your body, meaning your pecs can't workout with a 3121 regimen so how could a smaller body part?

So, I did the same exercises per exercise but less frequently. No more than 3 per week, and even sometimes 2 per week. It's counter intuitive at first, and I felt it might not work but after a couple of months of hanging like that and incorporating exercises more that worked for me rather than just following the standard, I noticed significant recovery between days of PE training. A few more months of that and lo and behold I gained an inch in a year in L and half in girth in a year.

So, I hope you can take this to heart and apply what you can.

But the only advice you should follow is to NEVER QUIT. If it takes a year to find something that works, believe me you'll never feel better. Keep evolving your plans, workouts and exercises. Keep trying, keep learning and keep going. Do not give up.

PE is a lifestyle not a quick fix. The sooner I think we can ingrain that into the new guys' minds the better.

Good Luck

Stanko

[anth1225]

length workout is 21 minutes yes. In real time that takes like 45-50 minutes

Well that's more than sufficient enough time on length.

I would suggest a change since you've been doing this for 3 months.

Could you possibly do your routines at different times of the day?
Do girth or length in the morning and the other in the evening?

Try LS Heli's and do 20 of these at 30 sec/rep
Then do 10 Downwords at 30/rep
10 DLD Bundled tunica stretch 30/rep
Experiment with the Btc's doing 10 minutes of these: either 20 30 sec/reps or 10 1 minute reps.

This will give you a 30 minute workout for length.

Sometimes when you only focus on one area as you have been with the LS it becomes counter productive. Changing up the routine a bit can have a great effect.

[man82]

to Stanko:
wow, now thats alot of text :D. Thanks for your suggestion and motivation not to quit!
I shall try to workout less frequently. Mybe ur right, that the penis cant recover that fast and I have one of those.

to anth1225:
Thanks for the suggestion also :)
one Q about the workouts. You said:

...
Do girth or length in the morning and the other in the evening?

Try LS Heli's and do 20 of these at 30 sec/rep
Then do 10 Downwords at 30/rep
10 DLD Bundled tunica stretch 30/rep
Experiment with the Btc's doing 10 minutes of these: either 20 30 sec/reps or 10 1 minute reps.
...

Do you mean I should do girth (squeezes, dryjelqs in the morning) and your routine, the 30 minute length workout, in evening?

Yea I can do that :)


One more itsy bitsy problem. I kinda injured myself, again. Don't know wether anyone had this but. I think it happened when I was doin my LS and something happened. Got scared shitless again. But nothing hurt or something.
3 days passed...
Now, if i try to pull the skin on the penis DOWN,towards the earth, just the skin...
The skin thats on the base of my penis which is on the surface starts to hurt like hell.
There is no pain if I just do LS. (pull the shaft). It's been like this for 6 days...Doesn't want to go away.
Is it some sort of a stretch injury ? and heals like month or two? or I gotta go c a doc, what I don't really want to do.

Thanks
man82

[anth1225]

to Stanko:
wow, now thats alot of text :D. Thanks for your suggestion and motivation not to quit!
I shall try to workout less frequently. Mybe ur right, that the penis cant recover that fast and I have one of those.

to anth1225:
Thanks for the suggestion also :)
one Q about the workouts. You said:

...
Do girth or length in the morning and the other in the evening?

Try LS Heli's and do 20 of these at 30 sec/rep
Then do 10 Downwords at 30/rep
10 DLD Bundled tunica stretch 30/rep
Experiment with the Btc's doing 10 minutes of these: either 20 30 sec/reps or 10 1 minute reps.
...

Do you mean I should do girth (squeezes, dryjelqs in the morning) and your routine, the 30 minute length workout, in evening?

Yea I can do that :)


One more itsy bitsy problem. I kinda injured myself, again. Don't know wether anyone had this but. I think it happened when I was doin my LS and something happened. Got scared shitless again. But nothing hurt or something.
3 days passed...
Now, if i try to pull the skin on the penis DOWN,towards the earth, just the skin...
The skin thats on the base of my penis which is on the surface starts to hurt like hell.
There is no pain if I just do LS. (pull the shaft). It's been like this for 6 days...Doesn't want to go away.
Is it some sort of a stretch injury ? and heals like month or two? or I gotta go c a doc, what I don't really want to do.

Thanks
man82

Is it a sharp unbearable pain that makes you let go quickly or is it just uncomfortable?

If it's a sharp pain take time off PE until it goes away. It doesn't sound like anything you need to see a doctor about.

Yes you can split your routine any way you want as long as each workout has sufficient enough of workout time (15 to 30 min).

Hope you get better

[man82]

Well it's quite unbearable... but it doesn't effect my PE, so I will continue PE-ing without trying to avoid the skin pulling.

Will report back in 4-5 weeks.

Thanks for worry!
man82

[man82]

4th month
Didn't do the exercises very often. like 3, MAX 4 times per week

all 4 weeks: warmup 5mins, 200 dryjelq (4 sec each), 50 squeeze (4 sec each),
20 LS heli 30sec/rep , 15 Downward 30sec/rep, 10 DLD Bundled tunica stretch 30sec/rep, warmdown 5mins.
and every week added 30 dryjelqs ..

I think the best one was the Downward for me. I felt a really good strech.

plans: Won't do intensive PE for 1 month... can't find the time ( maybe ill do 1-2 times per week and not very solid workouts ). After 1 month going to try make a jelqumania fest.

I estimate 500 dryjelqs (4 sec each), 50 squeezes (4 sec each), 10 Frontwards 20sec/rep, 10 Downwards 20sec/rep.

So... since started I've gained 0,118 in girth and 0,43 in length...
Althou I think im measuring it wrong but still, this PE stuff may even work.
The thing that ppl get gains in 3 months up to 1-2 inches, thats just so not believable for me.
In my case ill get an inch in a year maybe, so no quick fixes for me. I Agree with Stanko on that one :).

If this topic bugs you, you should move it to the Enlargment Tracking topic. It should be more proper there.

[Stanko]

Those aren't bad gains at all.

I reckon after a proper rest and you incorporate more PE later on in the year you'll be praising the whole regimen.

Just remember you're not losing any ground by resting only, gaining ground; and gaining girth and length.

Congratulations!

[CanuckMan]

To be fair, you haven't been giving PE your full attention at 3-4 times a week, so it isn't a surprise to me you haven't had "big" gains. The men that did gain so much so soon almost invariably worked extremely hard and stayed dedicated throughout. With PE you need to stay vigilant, people that say they don't have time w/e I question their drive. If you want to do something, you'll make time. Keeping your body guessing by changing your routine every couple of months is a good piece of advice, our bodies can adapt quite quickly so it's important to vary your routine. If the gains you posted were in inches, then you've made excellent progress and they should be proof PE works to you. Hopefully that will increase your motivation.

[Stanko]

To be fair, you haven't been giving PE your full attention at 3-4 times a week, so it isn't a surprise to me you haven't had "big" gains. The men that did gain so much so soon almost invariably worked extremely hard and stayed dedicated throughout. With PE you need to stay vigilant, people that say they don't have time w/e I question their drive. If you want to do something, you'll make time. Keeping your body guessing by changing your routine every couple of months is a good piece of advice, our bodies can adapt quite quickly so it's important to vary your routine. If the gains you posted were in inches, then you've made excellent progress and they should be proof PE works to you. Hopefully that will increase your motivation.

Are you serious?

You're expecting him to make gains by inches in such a short time?

And 3-4 times per week is fine...the standard by PE Health is 5 so he's one day off the system that they have and you say it's not enough, I have no clue what your rationale is.

He'll either injure or exhaust himself before he even gives his ligs a breather, and proper time to recup if he goes by what you're saying.

Telling him he needs to make gains by inches is the only thing that will deter him from PE.

[CanuckMan]

Don't bother arguing with me...and I didn't say gain inches in a few seconds type of thing I was talking about his part time off and on again work ethic which won't give realistic gains over the long term. Don't really appreciate that ignorant tone either, so cool off...

[metalman]

i reread through this post from the beginning again and i honestly think man82 probably should take a month or two off and take the time to do some research and plan out a good solid routine that he is willing to adhere to religiously.he's been PEing for 4 months but injured himself twice now.once when he pulled and ripped skin and bled and another time experienced pain.maybe he just started out a little too gung ho but with the injuries it has been off and on and just not being very consistent.we've all given him some good advice but now it's up to him to learn from his experiences and how his body responded to the exercises.now he should set up a routine that works for him.i suggest to start out light from the newbie routine and build from there.the fact that he has seen some gains is great so that should serve for motivation.take a break.rethink how your gonna progress from here and when you're ready to start back up we'll be here to help.also when posting gains it helps to clarify whether it's 1/8 , 1/16 etc. if measuring in inches or by centemeters.posting 0,118 and 0,43 is confusing.i don't know whether you're using millimeters or a digital ruler in inches but keeping it simple will only help us be able to help you better.

[CanuckMan]

It's really necessary to follow the beginner routine, learn the ropes, and then slowly increase the intensity over time. Your body is telling you it's too much too soon. And doing *every* single workout, not sporadic workouts, that won't result in any lasting gains and lower motivation even further. You'll get to where you want to be, but you need to take the time to follow all the advice given here, it's worth it's weight in gold. Sorry but I answer stuff like this constantly so sometimes it can get on your nerves a little bit due to the redundancy of it. I mean in the first 2-3 pages of each separate area of the forum, there are probably 3 or more threads like this that's all. Go slow, nobody is Peter North over night, learn your body, follow the excellent workout plans from beginner up, don't let yourself slip and start missing workouts, and you'll get your "ideal" size and maybe even beyond. :)

[Stanko]

Don't bother arguing with me...and I didn't say gain inches in a few seconds type of thing I was talking about his part time off and on again work ethic which won't give realistic gains over the long term. Don't really appreciate that ignorant tone either, so cool off...

Be more specific. My tone derived from what you wrote.

You know full well on message boards it's hard to decipher what you're trying to convey otherwise.

[CanuckMan]

I have to write the same thing about the same issues being asked over and over 500 times try doing that word for word every time and not getting exhausted. I'd hardly say something that, and nobody else misconstrued it. Let's leave this man's progress thread for him and not for irrelevant minutiae.