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Big Al
10-14-2008, 07:38 AM
Original post (http://www.lpsg.org/101710-non-believers-on-pe-forum.html)

I find it amusing that the word ‘medicine,’ is being linked with PE, when in fact medicine has nothing to do with PE. Medicines, or drugs are preparations for the treatment or prevention of disease and illness (check your dictionaries) and by and large produced under license. The pills and potions claimed to assist in developing a bigger cock are none of these and could be manufactured under the kitchen table as far as anyone’s concerned. The idea of PE is to increase the size of your cock, or put another way, a physical procedure to increase the matter, which is achieved by some form of tension being applied to the cock itself. Perhaps, it’s realisation of it being outside the realms of medicine that prevents pharmaceutical companies becoming involved?

As for the world of medicine, it’s a huge field. You develop a problem, you visit you GP, but he doesn’t know it all? Otherwise he would cure everything there and then in his surgery, but often he’ll refer you to a specialist. When it comes to PE however, there are no specialists; true there are surgeons willing to perform procedures with the hope of increasing your size, but they’re not specialists in PE as we know it. What we do know from contributions to these forums is that not everybody shares an interested in PE, or even believe it works. Therefore, why would we want to believe anything a medical professional says about PE that at best can only be an unbiased opinion? Not to mention the guys performing the surgery will tend to disagree with any doubters.

You're absolutely right. As an example, last week I read an article on WebMD from a urologist claiming that he didn't think PE techniques worked because "It is not like the penis is elastic and can be enlarged." Before we dissect this, let me point out that I was referred to that particular article from another WebMD article (http://men.webmd.com/features/male-enhancement-is-it-worth-try?page=2) discussing how "Male Enhancement" works.

A urologist stating that the penis isn't elastic is one of the most ridiculous things that I've ever heard! The penis is one of the most elastic structures in the human body, and every man that's had a penis go from a nubby flaccid to rock-hard erection can testify to this. The very function of the human penis relies on its balloon-like properties. This same urologist even stated that using a vacuum device would not affect the size of your penis. Though mostly temporary, pumping can increase the size of your penis well above its normal proportions (http://tigerpumping.com/galleries/erections/erections.html). As you can see on that site, not all of the increase is due to edema.

I point this out to show that not everything a doctor writes is correct- especially when the tone of the article is slanted to begin with. It's misinformation like this that causes confusion among men, and the worst part of it is that this information is coming from a supposed credible, reliable source.

Big Al
12-11-2008, 02:13 PM
People are finally coming around to PE on LPSG: http://www.lpsg.org/112699-big_al-appreciation-thread.html

Read about the PE gains in the PE subforum there too.

Big Al
12-14-2008, 11:57 AM
The latest...

Speaking as a skeptic... something is amiss...

I have to say that, given the level of interest... ANY company that could market an enlargement techniques that verifiably yielded significant results would be making money hand over fist.

Look at Pfizer... how many years were folks pushing herbal and other BS remedies for impotence... but ONE company Accidentally discovering ONE drug that can be PROVEN to work and BAM! Billions of dollars and a whole industry of competing products.

Testimonials aside... an enlargement treatment or regimen that showed SIGNIFICANT results that could be scientifically verified would sell billions worth.

Think of the asian market alone...

Pfizer did not ask the buying public to verify their findings... they KNEW they had an effective product and THEY funded the research that proved it.

Given the sums of money that stand to be made... any company with an EFFECTIVE penis enlargement product would be paying for the double blind scientific studies to prove their claims...

The fact that no company can point to such proof shows that they know full well their product is malarky, or that they have DONE the studies and found their product ineffectual.

Traction is the only proven method of penis enlargement... in terms of length... but for the vast majority, the gains will be marginal....

Trust me, when a truly efficacious product comes along that can show good results in MOST customers... you will see the major companies buying the rights and marketing it.

How do you explain the success of the many companies that have marketed ineffective enlargement procedures that have made money "hand over fist"? A product will often sell well more from marketing techniques and advertising budgets than because of its quality.

I'll sum this up because this same argument has already been made several times in some form or another on this forum. Your "everyone would be doing it" logic is flawed for the same reason that sound dietary and exercise advice isn't followed by the majority of fitness-conscious people- real PE requires work, dedication and education.

Doing PE exercises isn't like taking a pill or having a surgical procedure done. There's no glamour in having to having to learn how to do your exercises correctly, workout several times a week, closely log your sessions, wait weeks for measureable results, and months or even years to reach your goals. It's something that you have to do for yourself.

PE workouts will appeal to those of us that are already disciplined enough to recognize that it's not a shortcut. If you're the kind of person that's able to set goals for themselves and has the discipline to stick to a prescribed regimen, then PE exercises will be a natural fit. If you're not, then perhaps you should wait for a surefire, easy solution to come along to fulfill your needs.

I'm always amazed at the quantity of men that want a bigger penis but decry PE exercises because they're waiting for some "surefire" method to come along. These are the kinds of men that wish for good things in life but sit on the sidelines as other men go out and work hard for the good things they desire. Some of these men will even cry sour grapes so that they have an excuse for not succeeding.

I'm sure that if science were to come up with a way to give men the penises of their dreams with a very simple, convenient, and effective procedure, most men would jump at the chance to purchase just such a product. Until then, men that are truly serious about increasing their penis' size and fitness levels will do it using the most effective method found so far for improving penis size AND function: PE exercises.

One thing though- PE has taught me a lot about myself, and there's nothing like the feeling of knowing that I was able to change something so important (to me) as my penis size and sexual stamina through my own efforts. It was amazing to see the changes in my penis from week to week- all due to my tenacity! It gave me a sense of self-confidence and accomplishment that no pill or surgery could ever do.