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mtschust
12-03-2008, 08:57 AM
Okay, I am saving up the money and have decided to buy an extender. Does anyone have experience using a size genetics device with say a 2.5 inch flacid penis? The company says it will work with anything 2 inches or more but I would feel more comfortable hearing this from someone else.
Second of all, I thought sizegenetics was the best extender on the market but after reading around I have seen some negative posts about them. If I am going to drop 400 plus on an extender I want it to work. Do you think sizegenetics is a wise choice? I plan on getting the full package with the prosolution pills, and doing the exercise. I plan on wearing the device for 10 hours a day for 12 months.
Any input would be greatly received. I have also thought about an x4 extender but had heard that sizegenetics is the way to go. Plus you get all of that other stuff the dvd's etc.
Thanks alot
The Door Man
12-03-2008, 11:12 AM
Welcome to the forum!
I'm a newer member here, but I haven't spend ALOT of time reading posts on a great many topics....some of which were regading the SG Extender. I will say upfront that I likely wont go with the extender fortwo reasons :
1.) About half the people who posted about it have reported reasonably good results. The other half reported disappointing results....considering that it costs about $5 to maufacture and is being sold for $400, the thing better be bulletproof for that kind of money. I just don't see the value qotient and risk vs. reward....alot of risk, and from what I've read, not garaunteed reward. If it had 100% excellent reviews, I might spring for it.
2.) Even some who have reported good results have complained that it is uncomfortable to wear. Some have found ways to modify the device to be less uncomfortable, but for $400 I think it should come with those modifications. Not only that, but wearing something like that at work is going to draw some interesting looks from co-workers.
I saw this with the preface that while I want some additional length, I don't really need it. I am about 7" Non-bone-pressed EL, which is ok....another 1/2" wouldn't hurt, but that can come with excersises. Girth is what I'm after, and I don't know that the SG is going to help in that department.
Too much money for something that doesn't have a super-strong track record, IMO, given that there are soooo many other free or less expensive things out there that seem to be just as effective.
CanuckMan
12-03-2008, 01:57 PM
Hi there! They have two versions of the SG, so no matter what there is an extender tailored to your size. It's fantastic, and there's only 3 real problems I'm constantly asked which gets frustrating but it is what it is...here they are:
1) Adding too much length too soon results in slippage, not difficult to solve at all. Go at your own pace and try to wear the extender as much as you can each day and you'll be fine. Remember, PE is a marathon not a race! :)
2) Not adding length often enough or at all, resulting in no gains. Again, this problem is easily solved.
3) Complaints of comfort. Well, it's important to remember it's designed to pull the penis, not sit it down and feed it drinks :P. A slight pulling feeling is good, anything more is bad. I have the old version that I've slightly modified, I'm told the new version that was starting to be sold awhile ago is far better.
Regardless if you choose the SG or Exercises, PE itself takes effort, time and patience to get where you want to be. Welcome to the forum!
metalman
12-04-2008, 05:40 AM
i suggest that you learn some manual exercises first.take up the free newbie routine and give PE a try if you havn't already.see if you're able to stick with a consistent routine for a few months and go from there.take the time to read over all the SG threads here on the forums and then if you feel comfortable forking out the cash for the device you'll know you made the best desicion based on your needs/wants.i say this only cause i think a lot guys wanna buy the SG cause they think it'll be an easier way to gain without a lot of effort involved.PE is a slow marathon and gaining doesn't come overnite.no matter which route you decide to go this is a commitment & not realizing that you have to take breaks,massage for blood flow,frustrating issues of just learning how to keep it on,and setting all this time aside for PE can be a daunting task for some.it's not a case of just being able to strap it on & forget about it. another thing to mention is you can't wear it when you sleep! you'll cause injury to yourself.
mtschust
12-04-2008, 07:58 AM
I have been reading about Zygain and enhancerx extenders. They are top rated above SG on a mens network website. They claim you wear the extender for the amounts of time you want to see results. 4 hours a day for 4 months, or two hours a day for two months. Or wear it all night if you want. Sounds like a good deal. It's cheaper and comes with some capsules and gum to speed things along. They don't mention taking breaks or exercises or anything. What do you do just take the thing off massage your manhood for 5 minutes and then put it back on?
CanuckMan
12-04-2008, 04:15 PM
It's good to give it some time to restore proper circulation for a few minutes at least. Keeping it on for long periods of time, say over 2 hours at the most isn't a good thing. By that point likely the head turns blue and it becomes more and more difficult to keep the device from slipping off anyhow. I can only speak for the SG, I noticed you spoke of other cheaper devices I don't know them so I can't give you a good answer on those I'm afraid. I do know though that there are more beneficial and safer shortcuts in life than to take them with the penis.
mtschust
12-08-2008, 01:38 AM
i suggest that you learn some manual exercises first.take up the free newbie routine and give PE a try if you havn't already.see if you're able to stick with a consistent routine for a few months and go from there.take the time to read over all the SG threads here on the forums and then if you feel comfortable forking out the cash for the device you'll know you made the best desicion based on your needs/wants.i say this only cause i think a lot guys wanna buy the SG cause they think it'll be an easier way to gain without a lot of effort involved.PE is a slow marathon and gaining doesn't come overnite.no matter which route you decide to go this is a commitment & not realizing that you have to take breaks,massage for blood flow,frustrating issues of just learning how to keep it on,and setting all this time aside for PE can be a daunting task for some.it's not a case of just being able to strap it on & forget about it. another thing to mention is you can't wear it when you sleep! you'll cause injury to yourself.
I found these for free online and started to try to use them tonight but discovered it would be better to do it tomorrow after not having sexual activity for a while. Would these be ok? Also, When Jelqing, is it okay if some skin moves forward during the stroke?
mtschust
12-08-2008, 01:56 AM
I found these for free online and started to try to use them tonight but discovered it would be better to do it tomorrow after not having sexual activity for a while. Would these be ok? Also, When Jelqing, is it okay if some skin moves forward during the stroke?
Here is the workout
The Exercise Routine
Important! Start each session by applying heat to your penis for at least five
minutes. Using a cloth soaked in hot water or a microwave heating pad work well.
You should repeat applying heat every 10 to 15 minutes during your enlargement
workout. This will relax the tissues in your penis and increase blood flow.
The heat is very important and will help speed up your gains so don’t skip it!
Also you should be in a warm room while working out or at least have a space
heater to keep the area warm.
Exercise 1. Kegal: This exercise is designed to work the Pubococcygeal (PC)
muscles. Strengthening these muscles will help give you a stronger erection by
forcing more blood into your penis.
To locate the PC muscle is easy. While urinating, squeeze to cut off the flow of
urine. You have just flexed your PC’s! To find out what kind of shape your PC
muscles are in try this: Achieve an erection. Now clamp down on your PC muscle
as hard as you can. You should notice an immediate increase in penis size do to
more blood being forced in the penile chambers. If you don’t see this it’s time to
work those PC’s!
You will exercise these muscles in two ways. A quick hard repeated flex that is
only a second long or a long hard flex held for 30 seconds. Start with one set of
30 quick flexes followed by one set of a long flex. You should increase this every
time you work out and eventually work up to about 500 short squeezes and
between five and ten long squeezes three or four days a week.
You can perform these exercises just about anywhere even while driving your car
but it may be easiest to combine with manual stretching and will be described
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further in that section.
Exercise 2. Hand Stretch:
You don’t need surgery to lengthen the ligaments attaching the penis to the pubic
bone. The following simple stretching exercises will help you achieve a longer
penis without cutting and mutilating your penis!
a. Soft This exercise will help lengthen your penis and stretch the ligaments
attaching penis to pubic bone. You should be about half erect for this exercise as
a partially engorged penis is more pliable and easier to work. Encircle your penis
with thumb and first finger behind the head. Pull at a downward angle for a
count of 30. While pulling perform the PC quick flex exercise. After the 30 count
grab your penis at the base and shake quickly 20 or 30 times to relax it. Repeat
this sequence pulling to the right, left and then straight out. When pulling straight
out perform the PC long flex instead of the short. Repeat the sequence of pulls.
When first starting the amount of pulling pressure should be light. Increase
pressure as you advance so that by the fifth week you are straining with exertion
to get a good stretch (but not to the point of pain). A good way to get extra
leverage as you advance is to sit in a chair and grab your penis with thumb and
first finger. With the other three fingers grab the end of the chair and pull. You
can get a great stretch this way!
- Advanced variation: Ligament massage. While you have your penis pulled
straight out, use the thumb of your free hand to press down and out on the
ligaments at the very base of your penis. Be very careful not to apply too much
pressure and injure yourself.
This technique gives an incredible stretch to the ligaments that suspend the penis
from the pubic bone. After a few weeks you can use this technique in the shower.
The hot water will aid in achieving maximum stretching!
b. Hard The idea here is to directly stretch the ligaments attaching your penis to
the pubic bone. First you must achieve a full erection. Grasp your penis around
the shaft and push it down as far as possible. Next you want to pull it down with
force and release for about twenty reps. This is a quick pull-release, pull-release
type movement that is really a series of downward jerks. After twenty pulls apply
a constant pulling force with no release in pressure for a count of 30. Release the
pressure and shake your penis to release tension. Repeat this exercise to the left
and right sides. You will need to regain an erection first.
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Exercise 3. The Jelq: This exercise has been claimed as a “mystical Asian art”
by some or “an ancient Arabic tradition handed down father to son” by others.
Jelq works by forcing more blood into the penile chambers than they would
normally accept during an erection and by stretching the penile tissues.
When performed correctly this important exercise will work to increase both your
length and width. You will also see an increase in vascularity and erection
strength.
To perform Jelq, achieve an erection about 50%-60% erect. Apply a generous
amount of lubrication to your member (you can use hand lotion, baby oil, olive
oil, whatever works best for you). Grasp the penis at its base with your thumb
and first finger encircling it in an OK sign. Your hand position can be palm facing
up from underneath the penis with the thumb over the top or hand over the top
of the penis palm facing down with the thumb encircling under. Start with
whichever is most comfortable to you. Push your hand towards the head of your
penis applying enough pressure to force blood forward toward the head. Release
and immediately repeat with your other hand.
Continue to switch hands as you perform the exercise. Each Jelq stroke should
last about 3 seconds. This should be a slow, steady and powerful movement. You
should be able to see your penis expanding to its limits as you push blood up the
shaft. Don’t worry about counting strokes you will be milking for the time periods
described later. You will probably need to take short breaks while Jelqing to rest
your hands or regain a partial erection.
Exercise 4. The Squeeze: For most women girth is more important than length
for sexual satisfaction. The first two inches of the vaginal tract contain the most
nerve endings and it is greater girth that is required to stimulate. The squeeze is
a special exercise developed by Bigger Man to increase girth. Within weeks of
starting these you will start to notice a difference! To perform this exercise you
need to achieve a full erection (there is no need for lubrication with this one).
a. Long Squeeze Grasp your penis at the base with thumb and first finger as far
into your body as possible. Kegal hard and then squeeze so that blood is forced
up the shaft and your penis is fully engorged (the veins along your penis will be
bulging and the head will actually look glossy when done correctly). Hold this
position for a count of 30. You can move your hand forward up to an inch to
increase pressure while you count. After 30 seconds release your grip and shake
out your penis for a few seconds. Then achieve another full erection and repeat.
During each squeeze you should contract your PC muscles to get the maximum
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force of blood. This exercise gives you maximum pressure to your penis so you
must be careful. You want to force as much blood in as possible without doing
damage. Keep alert for any signs of pain or little red spots. The spots are tiny
burst capillaries and are harmless just stop the exercise until they disappear
(usually a couple of days). Then ease up on the pressure and start again slowly.
b. Short Squeeze Grasp your penis at the base with thumb and first finger as far
into your body as possible. Kegal hard and then squeeze and milk up the penis
shaft about an inch so that blood is forced up the shaft and your penis is fully
engorged. Release and encircle your penis around the base again immediately,
Kegal hard and repeat. This should be performed like a short Jelqing move.
Rotate using both the long and short squeeze methods in each workout at first.
Both are equally effective so if you find you prefer one method over go ahead and
use it but switch to the other method once in a while for variety.
Exercise Workout Schedule
Exercise three sessions a week, skipping a day between each workout. So a good
schedule would be Mon, Wed and Fri with the weekend off. Skipping a day
between each workout will give the tissues in your penis time to recover from the
new stresses being applied to them.
Perform the soft stretch for 5 minutes, the squeeze for 5 minutes and the Jelq for
15 min. Be careful there should be no pain at any time. Also if you see any tiny
red dots appear on your penis decrease the force you are using. The spots are
tiny burst capillaries that will go away but are signs to ease up.
You may be tempted to workout everyday but this is a mistake. You need
off days to recoup.
High intensity short workouts with adequate rest will give you the most gains with
the least amount of time out of your day. It is very important to keep using the
heat applying methods described earlier to maximize gains and prevent injury!
CanuckMan
12-08-2008, 07:55 AM
Those are a bunch of exercises wow. For starting, I would do the PC exercise, coupled with 1 exercise for length, and 1 for girth. It's important to go slow and learn how the body reacts. Then, when you think the intensity is waning from your workout, increase the intensity. The warm ups are essential as well. During Jelqs, try to keep the skin from moving up the shaft. That's another reason I like the Jelq Device.
metalman
12-09-2008, 05:29 AM
not sure what site you got these exercises from but i'd reccomend using the free newbie routine from this site(penis health).i say this only because every site is different and some promote advanced exercises in their newbie routines.i found this out first hand and strained a ligament when i started out.the exercise that says to pull out & push down with your thumb sounds a lot like the v-stretch and that's the one that caused me some pain.i was pretty sore for a week.it's an advanced exercise here on the forums.penis health and the mods promotes a more cautious approach to PE and in my opinion that speaks volumes over some of the other sites out there.go to very top of the page and click on the penis health link.you'll then see the tab for the free exercise routine.the pc flexes can be done anytime & throughout the day & don't really need to be included during your routine.you can also skip the horizontal movement.most of us here don't find them to be very beneficial.
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