girth and edemas, squeezes

[Cman420]

Hello.

So i have a couple of questions.

First, when doing girth exercises, such as squeeze, blasters and any exercise which involves movments with compression of the shaft, after about 10 or so i start to get edemas showing. First it was just on the right side now its on both sides. So am i doin these exercises wrong, I do them at the end of the workout because of this. When i do squeezes when is it best to do do them, 60% erect, 70% etc. Im not sure. and would the level of erectness contribute to the formation of the edemas??

Also, i know i have asked a few times about red dots.. so what about purple dots, they are still pin sized, some are pen tip sized but they go away after a day or two and are painless?? after i warmdown they went purple and the top half of johnson went slightly purple. i do lots of ulis and do a uli clamp thingy,, i think its similar to the ferrari pumps and such... so when do i have to worry about dots and such?? am i pushing to hard to see purple?? it doesnt hurt? so just want to make sure..

Thanks for time

[anth1225]

Hello.

So i have a couple of questions.

First, when doing girth exercises, such as squeeze, blasters and any exercise which involves movments with compression of the shaft, after about 10 or so i start to get edemas showing. First it was just on the right side now its on both sides. So am i doin these exercises wrong, I do them at the end of the workout because of this. When i do squeezes when is it best to do do them, 60% erect, 70% etc. Im not sure. and would the level of erectness contribute to the formation of the edemas??

Also, i know i have asked a few times about red dots.. so what about purple dots, they are still pin sized, some are pen tip sized but they go away after a day or two and are painless?? after i warmdown they went purple and the top half of johnson went slightly purple. i do lots of ulis and do a uli clamp thingy,, i think its similar to the ferrari pumps and such... so when do i have to worry about dots and such?? am i pushing to hard to see purple?? it doesnt hurt? so just want to make sure..

Thanks for time

With the Squeeze Big Al suggests 50% erection level

Red dots, purple dots all the same: no big deal. No pain is good. Small pin pricked size dots are normal and they do go away.

Re: edema. If it looks like a big bulge all by itself just under the glans that would be edema. You will always get a little edema especially if you've got alot of experience with compressions and the like.

I haven't done girth for a few months but when I do compression squeezes I'll get a bit of edema but I won't stop until it starts getting a little bit bigger than I like.

You'll have to learn the trick between too much and too little.

[Cman420]

Thank you.

Ya 50% makes sense, i do them a bit more which could cause an edema. good to hear that purple dots are alright? What about quantity? i do like 200 warm-up jelqs and like 50 of them are jelq hold/ squeeze thingy's, and i get lots of red dots, from where i clamp at bottom all the way to just under the glans. But i have a hard time gaining girth, its getting very veiny but the girth is only noticable when flaccid. How does girth increase or is formed?? engorging and holding trapped blood??

When doin Uli's, i hold for like 20 seconds, pump moe blood in, hold for 20 seconds , pump more blood in until i feel like doin squeezes. usually 2 min max, whats the limit for holdiing and clamping blood in shaft?? i heard some where in the forum 10 minutes, but that sounds crazy long?? is longer better or what??

My sessions are long.. 90+ min, this is my 6th month doin PE, 30 min length,, i rewrap lke 3 times during length to keep warm and an hour doin Girth.. does length of routine matter???

thanks for reading

[anth1225]

Thank you.

Ya 50% makes sense, i do them a bit more which could cause an edema. good to hear that purple dots are alright? What about quantity? i do like 200 warm-up jelqs and like 50 of them are jelq hold/ squeeze thingy's, and i get lots of red dots, from where i clamp at bottom all the way to just under the glans. But i have a hard time gaining girth, its getting very veiny but the girth is only noticable when flaccid. How does girth increase or is formed?? engorging and holding trapped blood??

When doin Uli's, i hold for like 20 seconds, pump moe blood in, hold for 20 seconds , pump more blood in until i feel like doin squeezes. usually 2 min max, whats the limit for holdiing and clamping blood in shaft?? i heard some where in the forum 10 minutes, but that sounds crazy long?? is longer better or what??

My sessions are long.. 90+ min, this is my 6th month doin PE, 30 min length,, i rewrap lke 3 times during length to keep warm and an hour doin Girth.. does length of routine matter???

thanks for reading

Yes the dots are a GOOD sign whether they are purple or red. They are an indicator of proper intensity. Now if you don't get the dots it's not a sign of not enough intensity so they can't be an overall gauge.
But just know that when you get them you're doing good.

Girth is hard to gain so it requires the time you're putting in plus patience.
You're expanding the blood cells making them larger to hold more blood plus expanding the tunica.
I think it took me 2 and 1 half years to gain 1/2 inch.

A clamping session suggested by turle is 10 minutes but I've never mechanically clamped. I've always used my hands.

You've got a good routine going but you might want to check out this thread.
http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16513

If you do 20 of these you should be majorly pumped.
The intensity is more than a 50% Squeeze because your erection level will be close to 100%
So as you do them don't think you need to apply major intensity with your hands. Just clamp good at the end of every Jelq for 1 second and for the full minute after 10 Jelq & mini holds.
I've gained from this exercise.

You may be doing too much adding the Uli's to the Jelq and Hold and the Squeezes. You can use the 200 Jelqs as a warm up but at this stage of the game and where you're at maybe just warm up with 100 Jelqs and then devote your workout time to the more intense girth work.
Too much can be counter productive to gains so you'll have to gauge for yourself.
Jelqs will only take you so far but they are perfect for warm ups and overall penis health.

A good way to gauge if you have a good girth workout is to measure it when you start, measure in the middle and measure at the end.
Somewhere in the middle you should be pumped up more than your official girth measurement and at the end you will probably be back to where you were when you started. If you are you're probably doing a bit too much but no biggie. If you're less then you are doing too much and need to augment your workout accordingly.
The exercise I gave you should be good enough as is.

[Cman420]

Again, Thanks for advice.

So the thread you gave me, a couple of questions. It looks slightly intense, so 20 reps total, thats like 200 mini jelq holds and 20 1 min squeezes, or 20 mini jelq squeezes and 2 1 min squeezes?? does this make sense? and would this exercise be the entire girth workout??

Thanks

[anth1225]

Right do a slow jelq then a quick 1 second hold. I like to kegel right before every hold.

Do 10. On the 10th one do a quick kegel, or pc flex and hold 1 minute.

Restimulate to full erection and do again. Aiming for 20 - 1 minute holds

comes out about 200 3 to 4 sec jelqs = 10 to 13 min
200 seconds of a jelq n hold = 3 min

Yes it's intense but give it a try and see if its for you or not

[Cman420]

Cool thanks,

So i tried the exercise, its kinda advanced, hard to get used to.

I got another question. Everyone seems to talk about girth, i got a good girth routine going, since doin squeezes at 50% the edemas are occuring slower so i can get like 5-8 more squeees in. Now what about Length, are there any of the exercises that are on penishealth that you would recommened. I just do long schlong, two-handed long schlong ang heli schlongs. seems to get a god length.

Also, edemas are a result of too much girth, are there any symtoms of overworking length??

Also are there any exercises that work girth and length at the same time, hit two birds with one stone kinda deal?? or is it important to focus on one at a time?? any suggestions?

thanks for time

[anth1225]

Cool thanks,

So i tried the exercise, its kinda advanced, hard to get used to.

I got another question. Everyone seems to talk about girth, i got a good girth routine going, since doin squeezes at 50% the edemas are occuring slower so i can get like 5-8 more squeees in. Now what about Length, are there any of the exercises that are on penishealth that you would recommened. I just do long schlong, two-handed long schlong ang heli schlongs. seems to get a good length.

Also, edemas are a result of too much girth, are there any symtoms of overworking length??

Also are there any exercises that work girth and length at the same time, hit two birds with one stone kinda deal?? or is it important to focus on one at a time?? any suggestions?

thanks for time

Basically when I stretch I use soreness as a guide. When it starts to feel uncomfortable that's the time to stop whether I hit my goals for that workout or not.

Also when you're doing length you will notice that you're hanging real good and stretching out farther than before. Then you will start noticing that it's gone away and you're looking back to normal. Then you will have a bit of a refractory (shrinkage) thing going on when your unit starts looking like it wants to go like a turtle back into its shell.
That's a good sign of overworking and that its time to stop.

When I started following those rules I noticed that I still get good wood in the morning despite a vigorous workout. When you're too sore to touch even the next day you've overdone it.

I'm a believer that you keep going with your routine as long as you're gaining. If gains stop you can tweak your routine by adjusting and experimenting with intensity, more reps, more time ect. Just go until you exhaust your gains and then change your routine to stretch different parts of the penis that you weren't before.
Research the exercises on the Penis Health website and learn them and then start to experiment when the time comes.

The Jelq has been said to increase length and girth but really it's not the most efficient.

Just keep doing what you're doing and use the Jelq as a warm up and overall health of the penis. I think its perfect for that.