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snownsurf
01-30-2011, 09:12 PM
I'm wondering about how long a session should be. I know we aim for it to be 15-30 mins of actual work out time, but does that include girth and length? I am only focusing on length and my work out it about 20-25 mins consisting of bundled tunica for 8-10 mins and stretching in all 5 directions for 12-15 mins. But I feel that I might be overworking my penis, it gets kinda swollen around the head and puffy. What are signs of overtraining? and how long would a good length work out be? Maybe a reply from one of the vets like Anth, Turtle or Metalman would be nice. :)

alexander027481
01-31-2011, 01:56 AM
I dont think you, re overtraining. I get swollen half of the glans but that is caused by the strength of my stretches
And it disappears after the warmdown. Generally I would say the tougher your tunica seems the harder you have to train,
Therefore I train harder, tougher tunica means less risk of injury. I also do mainly length work in about 80 percent of my workout time.

metalman
01-31-2011, 10:35 PM
It doesn't sound like you're overtraining,like alexander said you may be getting a little sore from gripping.A dull ache in the ligs or tunica is a good sign of a good length workout.If you start to notice weaker erections than maybe back off a bit.Pain is always bad of course.


We're all a little different so it's more important to just pay attention to what you're penis is telling you.Your penis should feel a little tired after a good workout.It's not so much of a time thing.Big Al once suggested more intense stretches at less seconds a rep.So if you were doing a 30 second stretch at your normal intensity you might want to try doing a more intense stretch for 15 seconds per stretch.

Instead of working out for 30 minutes you decrease your actual workout time but with more intensity so you can still achieve a great workout.I prefer a less intense stretch for 30 seconds a stretch.That's just what i felt worked for me.Sometimes those variations in a routine will stimulate growth by not letting your penis adapt over time.

Of course if your getting results don't rock the boat by changing up every month.I'm not suggesting that you can work out for an hour or more just because you don't "feel tired." Just use common sense.

alexander027481
02-01-2011, 03:06 AM
I have an opposite problem, like today no matter how hard I stretch my member never seems to get tired. I need a length excercise when I come close to solid soreness. I can,t believe how hard I can stretch other newbies would end up with an injury. Today I was close to feel pain in my shoulder. I
Seriously think of hanging. I might be a superhardgainer. It,s been over 4 months and I,m not able to tell whether I have gained at least a little or nothing. I had started with a bigger size almost 7 inches nbpel, but this is also my potential in smooth muscle. Now I understand why some guys resort to the stuff like Andractim, DMSO or other stuff for making tissues more elastic. I have some tips too. My routine for this month is: 8 minute warmup, 200 jelqs( 50- 60 percent erection) 40 reps of Long Schlong Heli( each for 8- 10 seconds) increasing the number of reps by 2 in every other workout, 10 reps of Power Stretch( 10- 15s intense stretches in all 5 directions) 8 minute warmdown. I use IR lamp for both warmup and warmdown.
This is what I did today. I would like to implement another length excercise acording to TGC theory, therefore I want to focus on length to see if this theory works or it is meaningless for guys with 3 tunica layers like me.

metalman
02-01-2011, 10:27 PM
What's TGC theory?

I'm not the most informed person when it comes to penis anatomy but how do you know how many layers you have without opening it up and counting? :scratchchin: I seriously have no idea how many layers i have and havn't read anything about multiple layers or how that attributes to gains.

I havn't scoured the entire internet for info on PE.There's a lot of information on the internet but there's also a lot of misinformation out there.Lot's of theorys but i still think it comes down to the basics.

alexander027481
02-02-2011, 12:26 AM
TGC theory in fact doesn,t say anything about layers. It says if the difference between your. BPEL and BPFSL is less than 0.5 inches and your EQ is 9-10, in this case the tunica is your limitating factor and you have to focus mostly on length excercises, or hanging. If your EQ is less than 9 and difference between. BPEL and BPFSL is over 0.5 inches, in this case smooth muscle is your limitating factor and needs to be expanded by girth excercises. This theory looks promising. I,m testing it this month to see if it,s real worth or a piece of crap. Currently I,m trying to do 20percent of girth work and 80 percent of length according to type A

anth1225
02-02-2011, 07:37 PM
Sounds real interesting let us know how it goes

snownsurf
02-04-2011, 06:13 PM
Well I do my stretches at 30 seconds but intense, and its not really soreness but more just swells up. I'm not too impressed with the gains which is why I'm asking maybe I'm lacking something else I dunno... oh and whats EQ? Also my flacid length stretched is over 0.5 inch bigger then my BPEL so whats the smooth muscle mean?

alexander027481
02-05-2011, 12:40 AM
Ok, it seems like many of you are interested. I,m going to open up a new thread on TGC theory. It looks to be a very solid theory, however results are inportant. And. I,m not sure if this theory works for me. I found some good stuff that can help with elasticity of collageneous tissue. For people like me pe is all about finding what works for me. I started with a better size so now it really seems like, I already had achieved my maximum potential in smooth muscle before pe. So my focus is placed on tunica. But for some people manual stretches dont work. I did gain in flaccid little bit. But no erect gains yet.
My intension was to wait with my results and then to post about this theory. But the tougher your tunica is the harder you have to train, however snownsurf if you,re saying that your difference is over 0.5 inches it says that smooth muscle is your limiting factor and you should do heavy girth work according to the theory. Mine is under 0.5 and when I,m boosted with testosterone my EQ is close to 10
But again said if you find what works for you any theory is meaningless in that case.:D

snownsurf
02-05-2011, 01:53 PM
But I'm not focused on girth, I want more length currently. What is EQ?

metalman
02-05-2011, 04:24 PM
EQ=erection quality

A 10 means you're busting out of your skin.A full on raging boner!

7-8 a good stiffy but not maxed out to it's full potential.You get the point.

vanness
02-08-2011, 06:15 PM
We're all a little different so it's more important to just pay attention to what you're penis is telling you.Your penis should feel a little tired after a good workout.It's not so much of a time thing.Big Al once suggested more intense stretches at less seconds a rep.So if you were doing a 30 second stretch at your normal intensity you might want to try doing a more intense stretch for 15 seconds per stretch.

metalman
02-08-2011, 09:48 PM
We're all a little different so it's more important to just pay attention to what you're penis is telling you.Your penis should feel a little tired after a good workout.It's not so much of a time thing.Big Al once suggested more intense stretches at less seconds a rep.So if you were doing a 30 second stretch at your normal intensity you might want to try doing a more intense stretch for 15 seconds per stretch.

:rotfl: Someone reposting my very exact post from above.

alexander027481
02-09-2011, 04:39 PM
We're all a little different so it's more important to just pay attention to what you're penis is telling you.Your penis should feel a little tired after a good workout.It's not so much of a time thing.Big Al once suggested more intense stretches at less seconds a rep.So if you were doing a 30 second stretch at your normal intensity you might want to try doing a more intense stretch for 15 seconds per stretch.

It may or may not be good. I did harder very intense stretches and they didnīt bring me the gains. I would be an adherent of longer stretches with lower intensity, it is the same like when hanging, you canīt move weights too fast otherwise your unit gets contitioned to stress and thatīs bad. For some people manual stretches donīt work at all.

alexander027481
02-09-2011, 04:44 PM
:rotfl: Someone reposting my very exact post from above.

Iīve never seen that here before. :D

anth1225
02-10-2011, 04:57 PM
It must of been a real good post ;)

metalman
02-10-2011, 09:35 PM
It doesn't sound like you're overtraining,like alexander said you may be getting a little sore from gripping.A dull ache in the ligs or tunica is a good sign of a good length workout.If you start to notice weaker erections than maybe back off a bit.Pain is always bad of course.


We're all a little different so it's more important to just pay attention to what you're penis is telling you.Your penis should feel a little tired after a good workout.It's not so much of a time thing.Big Al once suggested more intense stretches at less seconds a rep.So if you were doing a 30 second stretch at your normal intensity you might want to try doing a more intense stretch for 15 seconds per stretch.

Instead of working out for 30 minutes you decrease your actual workout time but with more intensity so you can still achieve a great workout.I prefer a less intense stretch for 30 seconds a stretch.That's just what i felt worked for me.Sometimes those variations in a routine will stimulate growth by not letting your penis adapt over time.

Of course if your getting results don't rock the boat by changing up every month.I'm not suggesting that you can work out for an hour or more just because you don't "feel tired." Just use common sense.

Third time is a charm!


:dancyboy:

anth1225
02-12-2011, 04:39 PM
:dizzy: :rotfl: