Girth Only! Darren's opinion?

[FuriousGeorge85]

Question. I have a 6.5 inch long penis, and I am personally satisfied with that. However, I would like to increase my girth only, as my girl enjoys that. She is shorter, and since womens' vaginas are proportional to height, she would be unable to accomodate a lengthier penis. Yet she derives pleasure from girthier shafts, and so I am wondering if you have suggestions for increasing girth without increasing length as well. Do I need to keep jelquing, or can I simply perform only the girth excercises? Some say girth is hardest, some say easiest to gain, but either way I will stick with it. I would just like some feedback first. Thanks a lot!

[gmanEA]

Furious,
Please may I say that the womans vagina being proportioned to her height is as much a myth as the penis length being proportioned to a mans height. Vagina depths vary from woman to woman and there usually is not a correlation between her height and vagina depth that is noticed amongst them.

As for your girth, jelqing will help give you girth but some other techniques that are beneficial to your girth are exercises such as squeezes. When you have an erection squeeze firmly at your base, then with your otherhand squeeze towards your head. You should notice your penis feel an internal pressure and it should look like it is as fat as possible. Your veins should also protrude some what. This in time will slowly increase your girth. There are variations on this technique that may yield quicker results etc, but it could help that you add this to your routine.

[FuriousGeorge85]

Thanks for the input, I'll work on it. I guess I'll work on length as well if they aren't proportional afterall, I just remember a sexpert speaking in a health class telling us that women were proportional. I'm just worried that I'll gain too much in length and make it painful for her. Oh well, different positions give less or more penetration, right? I suppose I'll have to play it by ear. Thanks again.

[mpizzle]

This is a topic that I also have questions about. What is more useful?

Until fairly recently, I have alway thought girth was much more important than length. It is often said that the majority of nerve endings in the vagina are located in the first 1/3. Hence, girth being more important than length.

However, from recent reading, I now think they are both equally as useful as each other. The reasons for this are the discussions I have read relating to the cul-de-sac.

The cul-de-sac is the blind ending pouch at the very back of a women's vagina, past the cervix.

Past the cervix...but then how do you reach it? From what I have read, some manuvouring is required. In intercourse, the cervix lifts slightly, allowing the penis to slide slightly underneath and/or to the side (I don't really know if this is the case) and strike the cul-de-sac. This can produce extreme orgasms for women, or so I've read.

Obviously, increased girth will also put greater pressure on this sensitive spot, if the penis is long enough to reach it.

To reach the cul-de-sac, it seems like you need to be in the 7.5 to 9in category, which is pretty long.

Another benefit of increased length is that many different positions can be tried that may not be possible with a shorter penis.

Obviously, the optimal length and girth will vary from women to women and potentially, time of menstral cycle. What I am suggesting, is that PE'ers shouldn't become too obsessed with just chasing either length or girth, as they are both beneifical. In addition, excessive girth or length training may in fact impede results. (See my post in response to the "No gains" thread)

Another thing - apparently women need to be very aroused and thus receptive to have their cul-de-sac's toyed with, otherwise deep penetration will be painful.

Any comments or discussion from people of experience would be helpful.

As a side note, I think there is some merit in the idea that jelqing at lower than 50% erection levels leads mainly to length gains, since it allows you to pull quite effectively on the ligaments. In contrast, jelqing at 80-90% erection seems to encourage girth gains. Once again, comments from experienced PE'ers would be useful.

[KingD]

If your looking to increase girth, than checkout my 'Tips, Tricks, and Supplements ' thread that I revived. It has some extreme girth workouts in it, plus I will be updating it very soon, so be on tha lookout.

[tabasco]

When mpizzle is talking about anatomy of the vagina, I think we need to remember some of the basics of size and compatability. From my experience, my wife had a difficult time taking me at the beginning (as a virgin, very understandable). Not that I was that large at the time, just over 6", but it was great for both of us. She would have vaginal orgasms fairly frequently. Later, she adjusted to my size and they came less frequently, we added more oral sex and she is a very happy lady.

Lately, with my new size I have felt myself "bottoming out", at the back of what mpizzle calls the cul-de-sac. It has been great for both of us:cool: This seems to work most effectively (but not exclusively) with the female superior position (one of my favorites;) ). I notice that after I got to the 7.5 + we had more luck with this experience. So, a lot has to do with with lengthening of the vagina with regular relations with the penis. Since we are in a long-term monogamous relationship , it makes a lot of sense to me that she has increased the size of her vagina over the years due to regular sexual exercise and 2 kids. The new size is simply bringing more sexual joy and pleasure to both of us.

The reason for all of this is to say, take your time with your partner and simply try to insert your penis in as deeply as possible. We have enjoyed several positions with good luck, it just seems that when she is on top she has a bit more control of where to move my friend around for the most pleasure for her--and when she is happy, I am VERY happy:D

Hope this helps and inspires a bit. Let me know what you think.

tabasco

[mpizzle]

Hey Tabasco thanks for the reply.

I just wanted to ask you: Do you notice a big change in your lover when you hit the Cul-de-sac. On other forums they mention that their lovers usually react significantly and writhe in extreme ectasy. Supposedly, this cul-de-sac orgasm is different and/or superior to the average vaginal orgasm. This means length could be very useful.

By the way, have you ever tried that thing when you're in the missionary position and then pushed below the cervix into the cul-de-sac?

Once again thanks for the response.

Anybody else hit this cul-de-sac or had comments from women about whether they distinctly like length or girth?

Oh, and any thoughts on the jelqing at different erection levels for girth vs length gains?

[Central]

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