Tutorial - Measuring Correctly

[iron5]

Does anyone else ever seem to have this problem. I never seem to come up with the exact same measurement for my erect penis? Though I seem to always be the same level of hardness, I can vary in size by as much as 1/2

[iron5]

Actually, I see that part of my question posed was eliminated. What I actually said was:

When I measure my erect penis, I usually come up with different measurements as much as 1/2" -despite being, what I believe to be fully erect - I can measure as small as 4.5" and as high as 5" when fully erect and when measuring the same way.

I asked my wife to be my "official" measurer yesterday, and she measured my erect penis to be 5.25" long which surprised me as I have never exceeded 5". This is important as I want to establish a baseline size as I get ready to start this program today. HAve any of you other guys allowed someone else (like a wife, girlfriend, significant other) to measure your penis and seen where their measurement of you has differed from what you get?

Do any of you other guys vary in size for your erect penis? And if so, what baseline size do you decided to start at as a result?

Thanks,

Iron5

[gman]

iron5, I dont vary in size as you describe. Perhaps you are not as fully erect at times as you believe. When you measure make sure you are standing up, point it directly outwards (not at an angle, this could even be the reason you are getting different measurements, by having different angles) and then measure from base to the tip, to get true measurement do not press into your pelvic area. Oh yeh, dont ever get your wife to measure it, there are a few reasons why you should never get your woman to measure it.
She may try to get biggest measurement possible, maybe pushing in a bit , or lying to you, this would be to make you feel better. Also I doubt a woman could measure it properly, ive heard stories of women bragging about their bf's 8'' @#%$ etc, when it actually like 6'' (however they believed what they bragged about). Anyhow, i hope i have helped answer your question.
l8rz

[iron5]

Thanks Gman. Actually though, I am glad that my wife is very supportive of me in trying to enlarge my penis, and I think that her measurements were accurate -as I verified them today. Is anyone else here married or have a significant other that is aware of there enlargement program? And if so, what do they think about it?

Thanks,

Iron5

[Elisha]

Im married but I am a women, I got my husband to do PE and always measure is penis for him.

I found this site for you:

members.tripod.com/italianguyy/ (http://members.tripod.com/italianguyy/)

[iron5]

Elisha,

Thanks for the site, and support. If I had a penis the size of that guys though, I wouldn't need penis enlargement!! :)

Iron5

[BigHarry]

So what are you hoping to gain Iron?

[ohgoodygoody]

iron I'm no expert but i would say the size variations are normal.

[Darren PH Support]

Yeah when measureing its often quite possible to see size differences of between 0.2 inches

[iron5]

I started the PE program right after the first of the year (Jan 2), and have only missed a day or two since that time. I have noticed improvement in both my length and girth. The other night, as my wife and I were getting ready for sex, the light was off, and she took my penis in her hand, and she said, "You're thick" -that was such a tremendous boost to my confidence. I have never before been told that I was long or thick, so that one comment was such a turn on to me.

When I first started this program, I measured 5.25" long and exactly 5.25" around. The question I have is, how often do you measure your penis to verify increases? Weekly, bi-weekly, monthly or ???

My ultimate goal? Hmmm, I would love to say 8 inches, but realistically, I would be more than satisfied with a thick 6" penis.

Iron5+

[sammy]

I agree that it's better not to involve the woman in the process and that it is the man who must do this on his own, it also gives you a better feeling to be able to say i gave myself this penis not, you and your wife giave yourself that penis

[Stanley03]

What am I supposed to use to measure so I can check the before and after resulst?? Im new to the program but excited about gaining some lenght and girth.

Thanks and good luck to all !!!

Stan

[bigdick]

I always use a bit of string to measure the penis then cut it at appropiate length and then measure with a tape measure.

Works a treat - i have gained 1.5 inches and still have all the string !!!

also there is a messge on this forum about measuring

[quik123]

I'm not too clear on how everyone measure girth. Darren or somebody tell me how to measure girth because I am clueless.

[jearl35]

to measure girth, simply take a soft plastic tape measurer and wrap it around the thickest part of the erect penis, this gives you the circumference of it.

[steve0]

If you have curvature what is the correct way for measuring? Is it along the inside curve or the outside curve?

[ajrferrari]

Hey,

The correct way to measure the penis is along the top with one end of the ruler pressed into your pubic bone.

Unfortunetely, this does not change when you have a curvature, it just means that you may be missing out on half an inch or so. Just hold it out straight and take a measurement - that is how a doctor would do it anyway.

If you went along the outside of the curve, your measurement can be up to 1 or 2 inches greater than if you did it along the inside of the curve!! Thats a massive difference so its best to stick with bone pressed measurements only - called BPEL (bone pressed erect length).

Regards

[steveo]

I was looking back at some of the past strings and one came up on which elisa posted this website www.members.tripod.com/italianguyy/
This site said to use string to measure the dick along its curve. What do you think? Are they wrong or right?

[ajrferrari]

Hey Steve,

Defienetely Wrong - the correct medical way to do it is bone pressed with a solid ruler.

If you went to a doctors and he measured it, he would hold it out at right angles to your body, press the ruler into your pubic bone and take a measurement like that.

The famous durex penis size survey was conducted in this manner - go check out the site. If everyone was measured along the curve, the fluctuations would be severe, causing a less than accurate survey.

Regards

[gmanEA]

Yes, the best method is to use a hard ruler which will not bend. You want to measure the actual usable length dont you ? Think of it as measuring the amount of displacment.

[steve0]

thanks guys

[royaljaguar]

Ok guys... I am completely new to this forum. I guess like all men, I want to be bigger....

Now, this may sound odd but how does one measure his size? Do you measure from the tip to the base which is closest to the stomach, or the tip to the base somewhere near your ass.

I would guess I am somewhere around 6 inches, but for some odd reason the women I have been with have told me I am bigger than average, and that I have a good size *shrug*. In any case, I feel I should be alot bigger. I guess watching all those studs in pornos makes me wish I could easily compete with them.

I just joined, figuring I had nothing to lose... and to get started right, I would like to know how to measure myself, so I can take a before program measurement.

Thank you in advance for your help. I really hope this program works. What guy doesn't want to feel like a complete stud?

Royal

[Tranceology]

Royal,

To get a correct length measurement (Bone Pressed Erect Length or BPEL), measure pressed up against your bone on top of your shaft to the tip.

For girth, wrap a string (or measuring tape) around mid-shaft, and then measure the length.

Hope this helps. Good Luck!

Tranceology

**Stay Active, Stay Healthy, Stay Pumped!**

[royaljaguar]

I understand girth but for the length where you say "measure pressed up against your bone on top of your shaft to the tip", I am still clueless. Pardon my ignorance, I just want a true measure.

I think what you mean is to measure the very base from the side which faces the belly button "naval", which would hit the bone which is closest to your body all the way up to the tip. This would give the smallest length reading, correct?

[Tranceology]

You got it. Basically you press a ruler against the bone on the top side (toward your belly button) and measure out to the tip.

Tranceology

[Jearl]

Hey,

Basically, you put the ruler on top of the erection and press into your flab (for me at least) until it hits the bone or whatever at which point it can go no deeper, it should give a more accurate reading cause it always is on the same spot, at least thats the theory.

[ajrferrari]

Its simple, stand up and hold your penis out so it is at right angles to your body. Take a ruler and lay it along the TOP of your penis then press the end nearest your body into the pubic bone that sits right at the base of your penis - you will feel when u hit it bcos you cant press the ruler in any further. Then simply take a reading off the other end.

This is the only correct way to measure your penis. DO NOT measure along the side or along the bottom, both of these ways increase the figure by a half inch or more.

[lilsamson]

i was just wondering whether the 'end' of a measurement was to the end of the shaft, or to the peepee hole.

[royaljaguar]

Time to go measure.

[powmow]

hey guys i was just wondering from what point do you start to measure penis length and where to measure girth from. thanks heaps

[kiwi7777]

You measure with a ruler from the pubic bone across the top on the penis. You measure the girth around the middle of the penis. Some people use a string to measure, especially with the girth. This is how doctors measure the penis.

[Xolotl]

With the measurement I an uncertain as well. I am pretty acurate but I established my baseline by pushing the ruler against me. On;y because I know penetration wise it was a more acurate measurement. Also I think it is easier to be more consistant this way instead of maybe measureing at different times with varying amounts of pressure.

One this though. I can't find a ruler that starts flush with the end of the ruler. there is always some blank space before the 0 mark. so I guess I'll just have to cut this excess portion off.

-X

[tigerbartlett]

Go to any fabric store and purchase a sewer's measuring tape. They are relatively cheap. They're made of a flexible soft plastic and you have the added bonus of being able to measure in inches or millimeters.

Try measuring yourself with a straigh ruler, as usual, and put this sewing tape on top of the ruler, flush with the end of the ruler near your base, and take a measurement reading off the measuring tape.

And see what you come up with!

[pearce6]

good advice.

[KingD]

Might I suggest you try the LENGTH TUBE post in my TIPS,TRICKS, And SUPPLEMENTS forum. Will help you alot!!!;)

[Wazzup]

Hi guys,

Hey I've got a question about measuring my penis. Well I am a bit overweighted (30-40pounds) and so I have some fat around the base of my penis. So it looks smaller than it is. I'm actually losing weight and if I keep the same pace, I will be at my perfect 210 at the end of august! :D But what I wanted to ask was do you, slim guys, have some fat at this particular area or not? When you measure your bone pressed erect lenght, is it the same lenght that what you penis looks? If you BPEL is 6 inches does you penis look like 6 inches? If yes fat guys are cursed! Cause my BPEL is 6 but my buddy looks like 5.

Thanks for your help. I know it sounds like a silly question but I have never personaly touched a guy there (and I hope I will never!!)

Wazzup

[andrei_RLTu1]

I got no fat around my penis but still there is always a little fat and of course skin in the way.

Bpel I measure 6.4 while the "effective lenght is just over 6".
I have under 12% body fat. I guess measuring Bpel you always lose a bit...

[Wazzup]

Thanks for your answer man.

[NELSON]

I have some fat in that area but not much to affect measurement. I think that what matters here is that you stick to one method of measurement so that you can monitor your gains correctly. Appart from that if your penis looks good to you my friend you're fine. If not just keep going till it does. In the end it's looks that matters.

[beast]

Hello all,

I started PE about a month ago, although I havn't been as consistent as I would like. When I was doing it consistently, however, I did notice some gains. I'm anxious to get back to it but I want to restart with a more accurate starting point. The video shows the model measuring his erect penis with a ruler. The problem I'm having is while erect, my penis curves to the left. This makes it difficult to get an accurate measurement. If anyone has any suggestions it would be appreciated. Thank you

[Jeremy]

Hi bro, this problem is easily solved. Instead of using a straight ruler like in the video, try using a tape measurer. Since tape measurer's are made to be flimsy, it can easily measure along the bend to the left.

[beast]

Jeremy,

Thanks for the reply. That is so simple I should've figured it out on my own. Oh well, if you don't know something I guess you should ask.

[Jeremy]

Yep, that's how you find stuff out, ask questions. I've found out that this is a place where you can ask anything and everything, and you'll always get a straight answer, so don't hold back on the questions.

[cyclops1978]

I know this is a pretty trivial question but I'm curious if most had measured against the bone or at the very base. I didn't think the bone was the right place so I went with the base, its obviously a bit shorter this way but will I still get accurate measurements from now on if I continue to measure from this point?

[ebon00]

Bone-pressed is better. That way you always have the same starting point. If you measure at the base there's always the chance that you won't put the ruler at the same place you did last time. The pubic bone doesn't move so it's a reliable place to measure. So in my opinion you should measure bone-pressed, directly over the penis (not to the side) and with your penis at a right angle to your body. That's pretty much the standard in all the sex surveys that have been done on penis length.

[cyclops1978]

Thanks Ebon. I guess I'll have to remeasure just to get a semi starting point, admittedly it may not be as accurate as it was before I started but better than nothing.

I've always measured from the base and came out around 6", so from the bone I guess it would be a bit longer.

[mobeydick]

Just making sure I am measuring correctly.

[pearce6]

www.penis-health.com

[mobeydick]

Cheers!

[bleujay]

I have a question I hope someone can help me with. The correct measuring technique states to put the ruler on the side of your erect penis, lightly touching the pelvic bone. I don't understand this. Does that mean lightly touching the skin covering the pelvic bone or pressing into the skin until you feel the pelvic bone stopping the ruler? If anyone can describe itno detail the correct measuring system, I would appreciate it. Also, I am fifty and have been diabetic for ten years. Will this hinder the progress? Thanks.

[ebon00]

Originally posted by bleujay
Does that mean lightly touching the skin covering the pelvic bone or pressing into the skin until you feel the pelvic bone stopping the ruler?

It means that the pubic bone should the the starting point. YOu should press until it stops the ruler. Place the ruler just off-center on your erect penis (so that you can see the very tip) but have it on top. Then, make sure your penis is at a 90 degree angle to your body and press the ruler into the pubic bone. That's your Bone Pressed Erect Length measurement.

[Auron]

if I measure do I have to use a ruler or can I use a measuring tape for length and push the metal aginst my skin?should I only measure once a month to see if I got any gains?

[ngt2000]

use a ruler for length...and only measure once per month

[cyclops1978]

I've measured more often but typically gains take time so you won't notice them if you do them on a regular basis, doing them on a monthly basis the gains will be more noticable.

I use a wood ruler, press against the bone and go with it, works well for me but whatever works for you that gives you thes ame result is fine.

[Auron]

what do you use for girth and where do you get do they sell them anywhere?

[cyclops1978]

I got a flexible ruler from the Crafts section at Wal-Mart. Its meant for sowing but it works great as you can just wrap it around the shaft.

[falcon]

Another cheap way to measure girth is to cut a piece of paper 8" long by 1/4" wide. Wrap it around you dick, mark it with a fine tip pin and then measure with your wood ruler :)

Works for me!

[Auron]

I wanna make sure I'm measuring right it says to press against the pubic bone where exactly is it?

[K_9]

just trace ur hand across the top of ur penis and keep pressing right into that little valley right above until u push past the skin and hit bone

[Yves]

Hi Auron

At Penis Health it is advice to measure the penis at the side. This is a standardized method used by researcher.
It is also much easier to find your pubic bone at the side. On top of the penis you have to press hard to reach the bone.

Yves

[hello]

i've heard ur supposed to press ur ruler or whatever kinda into ur skin a little bit, is this true??

i really need to get on this PE thing..

right now, if i'm measuring right i'm,
about 7.7 erect length
5.25 erect girth.

i'm 19 and still wouldn't say i'm fully through puberty.. is this big/small what, will i still grow? i always feel small for some reason

[mowinman]

The proper method is the (BPEL) Bone Pressed Erect Length. For this place a ruluer on top of your shaft and press it into the pelvic bone record you measurement, For girth, (EG) usually taken with a measuring tape, placed mid-shaft or use a string. The reason that you use th BPEL method is that by using the pelvis bon as an anchor., no false readings can be taken by placement of the ruler. There are other measurements such as (NBPEL) Non-Bone pressed Erect Length. (FG) Flaccid Girth, (NBPFL) Non-Bone pressed Flaccid Length.

[Anon]

7.7 is big!! Average is between 5.8 and 6.3 IMO.. so you've got a great starting point! :)

[______]

The instructions for measuring say to hold your penis up and then measure...but what if you have a slight downward curve which does not show your entire length when measuring unless you straigten it out? Do you measure the way the instructions say, or do you correct the curve first...

[Edward]

:) Hello line - If you can straighten the curve and measure, that would be best...however, if it is a problem, you can either use a cloth tape measure to flex with the bend or just do a guesstimate.

Whichever method you choose, just make sure that your consistant with that method every time you measure.

Does anyone else have some good advice for our friend?
;)

[ebon00]

Measure the way the instructions say. The thing about the measurement isn't that it should be exact or allow you to compare yourself to others. It's for you to compare to yourself so that you can see if and when your work pays off. Ignore the curvature of your penis for the time being and just measure straight.

[faust]

Don't worry about that is normal ,a curvature in the penis looking downward, i have this shape and women like it if you measure the penis with the curvature on the top you will see that measure more than when you straighten it .:)

[Royal]

I have a question about measuring

Should you start by the one or the verry begining? Those little lines?

Thanks

[mowinman]

Originally posted by Royal
I have a question about measuring

Should you start by the one or the verry begining? Those little lines?

Thanks The best thing you could do if your ruler marks do not start at the edge is to go bu a new one. Look until you find one that does start with the marks at the edge. Using one that doesen't, you will have to guess the difference. If you have not read the correct method of measuring here is the ling. It addresses the ruler and needed modifications to it.

Click Here (http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3158)

[Royal]

oh, cool thanks i'll check it out

[mowinman]

Your welcome Royal.

[Royal]

can you please tell me what epel and eg mean?

[mowinman]

Check the PE glossary in the Newbiw forum. There is a complete post on all the abbreviations and terms used in PE.

Here is the link to it.

Click Here (http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3147)

[Royal]

Thank you

[haha]

i bought a see through ruler and instead of measuring it from the side, I use more of a overhead approach because I noticed that measuring it from the side gives me too many different results. I can also be more accurate by seeing through the ruler and seeing where my penis ends.

[Royal]

that seems interesting..i might try that

thanks

[Paradox]

I hear guy's saying how big they are, but how are they measuring there penis? Some guy's have some body fat and that creates this little fat pad around the pelvic area which covers some of the lower part of the penis shaft. So I would assume when guy's measure they press down against this fat pad and slightly press against the pelvic bone since this is where the penis shaft begins. Is this the correct way of measuring? If so I'm 6.5 inches long erect but I still feel small...I mean guys in porno's always look bigger. The other thing is I always thought my girth erect (5.75 inches) was above average size since the average is said to be 5 inches, but I see some guy's who look just as big as me and so I feel average in that area now. Anyway, I really want to know how to measure properly, so if anyone knows please let me know.

[ngt2000]

measure with a ruler along the top of the penis and press into the pubic bone and record the measurement...for girth...use a measuring tape around midshaft

[Supra]

My best advice for measuring is fine one place that you like the best, use that spot everytime without fail to track your gains, you will never be wrong or be in doubt if you do that

[turtle]

Paradox
I agree with Supra. Measure the same way everytime and that is the correct way for you to measure gains. Penis Health has pictures and descriptions of measuring from the side with the ruler at the midpoint of the penis. Of course, PH says that this is the proper way to measure. Mowinman in a sticky in the Newbie section has the ruler on the side but higher, near the top, than the PH suggestions. Ebon has always stressed that the old penis studies had you lay the ruler on top of the penis, and that this is the correct way to measure.
Who's Right!
Who cares, it doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters is that you measure in a consistent manner so that you will be able to determine if your workout has resulted in some gain. One consistent thing is that the measurement should be bone pressed erect length. Mowinman's sticky provides a very good description and explanation of the bone pressed concept.
Turtle

[ebon00]

Originally posted by turtle
Who's Right!
Who cares, it doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters is that you measure in a consistent manner so that you will be able to determine if your workout has resulted in some gain.

Although I agree that using measurement mostly as a comparison against yourself so that you have something to judge your progress by is the main thing, that's not what this thread is about. (Read the first post.) This is about absolute measurements as compared to the average penis size. Then there's only one measurement that really works unless the person in question wants to delude himself:

1) Penis fully erect
2) Standing position
3) Penis held at a 90 degree angle to the body
4) Measure along the top
5) Push the ruler into the pubic bone

I've noticed something interesting about the whole "average penis size" thing lately. Whenever the question appears in sex advice columns (which it does with alarming regularity) the length is always stated as an absolute number, say 5". But girth tends to be stated as an interval. In the latest case I saw the "average" girth was claimed to be 6-10 cm (2.4-3.9"). (Which sounds really small...)

[turtle]

Ebon
I have no intention of arguing PE with you because I'm an amateur compared to you, but, "absolute measurements compared to average penis size." Your reference to the study showing 6-10 cm girth is a case in point. We don't know what average penis size is. All of these studies are an academic joke in terms of statistical validity, research methodology, i.e., control groups versus experimental groups, and measurement errors of the subjects. If we had an unbiased, statistically valid, estimate of penis size then I would completely agree with you that we need one, and only one correct way to measure. But all that we have for average penis size is a very rough estimate. Accordingly, consistency in method for determining personal changes in size is by far the most important consideration.
Turtle

[Anon]

turtle - if you look at all the studies that have been done (and ebon can probably provide links for them :)), they generally agree that length is between 5.75" and 6.25", and girth is between 4.75" and 5.25".

I think this is also widely accepted in the PE community, and if we're going to have any idea of what's big and what's not, we should be consistent in our measuring. Size is all about relativity, and if we're all measuring differently the numbers mean nothing. The method ebon described is the correct method, and should be used by everyone, IMO.

[turtle]

Anon
I have never done this but we are only talking about three different ways of measuring, Penis Health's, Mowinman's, and Ebon's. Perhap's if several of us measured in each of the three ways and then reported on the difference, then we would have a better idea. The studies that you mention have a variation of 1/2 inch in the "average size." Will these three ways of measuring have 1/2 inch difference in results? I have no idea. Next time I measure, I'll try all three ways and report on what I find. I've always measured the PH way and just for mental reference I will be consistent and continue that, but I am curious about what the difference of the methods would be. I assume that the difference would have some variability among individuals because of things like fat pad variability. I think that if enough of us reported on the measurement differences we would have some interesting results. That 1/2 inch difference in these studies is a variation of about 8%. In my mind that is a rough estimate.
Turtle

[Anon]

Yes, different measuring will produce different results, at least with length anyway. I've always measured as ebon described since that's how the medical world does it. Let us know your results.

[mowinman]

The only difference in my posting on measurement of the BPEL is that it is much more consitant with actual bone pressed. Because of the fat pad thickness that varies between individuals, a notable difference is found between those that are thin and overweight. Some having a 2" or more fat pad. No matter how hard you press in the ruler in, measurement over the fat pad will sway the measurement number for most individuals any way you look at it unless you are very thin. Other methods do not reflect the acurately of a bone pressed measurement.

When using the method I posted, the fat pad is taken out of the measurement process. It actually measures true bone press. The skin of the sac is the only thing that is between the pubic bone and the ruler. Most individuals sac's do not vary any more thickness than 1-2 cm in skin thickness thus giving a true BPEL measurement by eliminating the fat pad variable. What really counts is a controlled accurate method, and with this method for me, with a fat pad present, it makes a 1/2 difference over the hardest pressed in measurement I have taken using other methods. I can accurately measure gain consistantly. It is very easy to do and there is no varience in method what so ever.

Besides, the fat pad is uncomfortable to push in on hard, density of fat varies from month to month with everyone, and pressure used is not consistant from measurement to measurement taken using other methods. There is no need to push in hard using the method I posted, it wouldn't make a difference by pushing in hard a gain of 1cm at best. True bone pressed measurement.

[l2y4n]

ive seen many people use different ways of measuring the penis, but which one do most people refer to?. with BPEL do you push on hard or lightly? Do you measure down the size of your penis? from the quar ( crease at the bottom of the penis) to the head?

[Craven]

I use the BPEL measurement because it is the only true way to get an exact measurement. Also the best way to see results when they happen. I also push firmly so the ruler hits the pubic bone so I have the most consistant measurements when I take them. Make sure no matter where you measure from that you measure in the same spot every time.

[thebobo9]

I do both BPEL and NBPEL. NBPEL just to measure what the eye can see. BPEL is the progress indicator, and let's you know how deep you can go. You press against the pubic bone, that's it. If you have to push hard to get to the pubic bone, so be it, but it's bone. You're not going to force your way down further than that.

Bobo

[l2y4n]

so i just push as hard as i can then against the Pubic Bone. Ive been doing these exercises now for nearly 3 solid months and seen very little gains :( ( 8 months mostly on, but not consistantly) would someone be able to help create a new workout routine if they have time? I dont mmind how long each work out is, any help would be appricated, Ryan

[turtle]

Originally posted by l2y4n
so i just push as hard as i can then against the Pubic Bone. Ive been doing these exercises now for nearly 3 solid months and seen very little gains :( ( 8 months mostly on, but not consistantly) would someone be able to help create a new workout routine if they have time? I dont mmind how long each work out is, any help would be appricated, Ryan

Give us a specific post of what you are currently doing, reps, time, and days. It is kind of hard to recommend a routine if we don't know what you are doing at the moment. Provide some details and I think you will be pleased with the amount of help and advice that you will receive.
turtle

[falcon]

l2y4n, you also need to look at the intensity of your workout. If you have a 30 minute workout and at the end of it you don't feel the fatigue then you didn't have enough intensity.

The formula for gains is = Time plus Intensity.

The correct balance will give you the gains.

[tabasco]

Right on, falcon. Good comment that has given me some good results. Also, the intensity is important, you want to feel some results after the workout just short of pain.

tabasco

[Edward]

:mad: l2y4n - I have recieved several recent notices from our forum members that they have been spammed by you through Private Message's within the Mens-Network Forum.
l2y4n wrote on 06-23-2004 02:11 AM:
i am a moderator from another PE site, please have a look as we have also a shop inwhich you can exchange points from posting, for videos, porn and other items
cheers Ryan The URL was edited out for obvious reasons.

Your attempt to recruit members from this forum to another forum will not be tolerated by the Administrator of the Mens-Network Forum and you are hereby banned from this forum due to violations of the Mens-Network Forum's Rules and Regulations.

Sincerely,
Edward :cool:

[KingD]

Ok! Now you want to measure your gains in PE, but now PE has expanded to the world of BE(ball enlargement)too. Now there are your typical ways of measuring and there are a more entertaining and fun ways of measuring your gains. The typical ways are rulers and measuring tape, but if you have alittle more imagination you can find almost anything to measure your gains with. Here is an example: You can use a book to measure your length by placing the spine of a hardcover book to you pubic bone and marking the top of your penis on the spine in the book with a little notch. It will just look like the book is alittle beat up. Now to measure girth and width you can take a sheet of paper and cut a strip out of it(from one side to the next side)near the top or bottom of the paper. Now you should have 1 strip of paper and 1 almost whole sheet. You are only going to use the small ring. Now lay that strip of paper flat out and try to get an erection without lube. Place your erection on the srtip and with a pen or pencil make a line on the paper on both sides of your penis. You have just taken your first width stats. Now, you can take that same strip of paper that has you width marks and use it for girth too! While having an erection you can take the end of the strip and place it on top of your penis and hold that end down with your thumb. Begin to wrap the strip around your penis until it begins to overlap the end you are holding down with your thumb. Now with a pencil or pen mark on the strip where the two ends meet. Now you have both girth and width stats on one small strip of paper. I will post later to tell you how to measure ball gains, so stay posted PEers!!;)

[KingD]

OK PEers! I'm back with a way you can keep a discreet track of you ball gains(if your into BE). You can take a strip of paper and place one end of it against your balls as they hang. Now,holding that end down with a finger, wrap the strip of paper around your balls, until they are both comfortably "cuffed" inside the strip. Now take a pen or pencil and mark where the two ends meet than remove. Now take the strip and make a circle with it until the two marks touch. You now have a visual circumfrence of you balls. Now all you have to do is keep up with your BE and re-use that same strip to see if the circle gradually gets bigger and bigger. I still have some more ways of measuring and one that is extremly fun for couples to do together.Holla!:D

[KingD]

Ok PEers! The best way to physically see, reord, and have fun with your gains, is to get a kit from www.cloneyourbone.com or www.makeyourowndildo.com and make an exact replica of it now and than make one 2-4 months later. You and your may=te just might have some fun with it.:D

[Cockmeat]

Also If you dont have a measuring tape you can always take a piece of string wrap it around the thickest part of youre penis (erect or flacid) and than hold the piece of string up to a regular ruler. I recomend taking measurements both flacid and erect so you can compare later measurements.

[HonorMan]

Because I feel kinda lucky if it is, because I am 7" BPEL before even starting the program. That makes me feel a little bit better at least. And to measure BPEL, you just tkae the ruler and press it down into your flesh/fat next to the penis until you can go no further down due to the pubic bone right?

[HonorMan]

I always thought that when people said "my dick is 8" long" etc. that they were talking about the length of the visible penis itself.And mine was like 6-6.5" like that so I thought I had alot of work to do :(

[turtle]

Honorman
Visible length is Non Bone Pressed with the ruler on top. The reason of BPEL is to actually measure the change in the length of the penis. For most people NBPEL runs about a 1/2 inch less than BPEL. The thickness of the fat pad is a confounding factor that is eliminated, for the most part, with BPEL. If your starting with a BPEL of seven inches, your definitely way ahead of most people. Get to 8 1/2 BPEL and you'll have that eight inch visual.
turtle

[ronk49]

hey guys how ya doin. well to make this as short as possible, my question that is. i just came off of a break from pe cuz of excesive hours at work. well 2 weeks into it work shceduled more hours again. i'm trying to tuff it out but not doing real well . not too consistent. well after 5 weeks there was maybe 1/16 in length,thats maybe. my question is when to measure? i measured near the end of workout prepairing to do some edging. is this a bad time? would the penis be in too fatigued a state to get an acurate measurment? it really didn't seem to be one of my best erections. i also was out of ps pills for like 3 weeks. so what do you all think is a better time.


This thread has been moved to the appropriate forum ;)

[turtle]

I've always measured on one of the off days from PE. That way you don't confound the results with any kind of a pump from the recent PE routine.
turtle

[Tommy241168]

Its simple, stand up and hold your penis out so it is at right angles to your body. Take a ruler and lay it along the TOP of your penis then press the end nearest your body into the pubic bone that sits right at the base of your penis - you will feel when u hit it bcos you cant press the ruler in any further. Then simply take a reading off the other end.

This is the only correct way to measure your penis. DO NOT measure along the side or along the bottom, both of these ways increase the figure by a half inch or more.


hello, wat do I do if I have a curvature ? ( pointing upward to my belly button)

tha curvature is still there when I hold the penis out.


best regards from Tommy

[buddy43610]

ok, here's how i understand it. you should be standing and errect...very errect. hold your penis at a right angle to the rest of your body and use a TAPE MEASURE. press one end against your pubis and allow the tape to touch the penis all the way to the place on your glans that you consider the tip. this method allows for any curves/bends. do not pull the tape too tightly or it will stretch and you will not get an accurate measurement. that's my take on it anyway. best to you all, buddy p.s. since you are still so errect, you might as well play with it! ;-O

[dricke]

I just checked the "newbie forum" and it has a section on "How to Measure". It says for BPEL, bone pressed erect length, the standard is to measure on the side from the bone at the base to the tip of the penis. Somewhere else in these forums they even had pictures to help you get it right. Check it out.
dricke

[NEEDMORESIZE]

DONT MEASURE UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH.
I know its hard when you really want to see if youve gained anything per week. but patience will yeild more results obviously.
I keep getting dissapointed my first month on my girth measuring because I wasnt seeing anything for girth and thats all the work out was towards but anyways IT CAN ONLY BRING ABOUT DISSAPPOINTEMENT MOST THE TIME. Im only 1.25 months in the program and I want to measure girth but I know when I really look at it Ill probably be dissappointed again and discouragment is something we dont need. SO ill wait to the end of the month. DONT BE HASTY WITH THE MEASURING TAPE BECAUSE THE GAINS WILL PROBABLY NOT BE HASTY.

[Kingston]

Thanks for the advice, I'm into my third week as of tomorrow and have so far resisted the temptation of measuring, because for one thing I know that the excerise s at the start are mainly to get your penis used to PE'ing, and so not alot of gain will be seen anyway.

I'm in for the long haul until I get what I want :P

[x00stalkr00x]

I see people putting BPEL and this kind of thing in there profiles and I dont know what that means.

Here is how I took my starting measurements:

I used a measuring tape and started at the bottom of my penis, right above where my pubic hair ends, and measure all the way to the head. 5.1 inches. :(

Then I measure the cirumfrence by wrappnig the tape around the base of my penis. 4.25 inches. :(

What is the correct term for the circumfrence? Is that my girth?

My last girlfriend made mention of me having a small penis, so I've been encouraged to do something about it now. Is this not the smallest penis you have ever read about? lol...my confidence is shot.

Should I just start the beginner exercices on PE.com? I would like a recommended, tweaked version that maybe some of you have created that might help me see quicker gains. All help is appreciated.

[mirwalk]

I'll do the best I can to explain.

NBPL: non bone pressed length. This is the measurement from you pubic hair to the end of your cock
If you see E or F before most measurements it means erect for flaccid.

BPL: bone pressed length. means you pressed the tape down against your pubic bone and measured to the end of your cock.

most people prefer to use the BPL. If you are like me and are overweight then you build up fat around your pubic area and this can cover up a one to two (or more) inches of cock. So most use BPL because NBPL can can change as you gain or lose weight.

Girth is usually the measurement around you dick while erect.
You dick is not the smallest I have heard of. Of course this forum is all about fixes those sort of things ;)

most people would recommend you start with the exercises on penishealth.com there might need a to be a - in there but I can't remember. The key to gains is a good workout for a long period of time. You can't get good gains in a few weeks. However several of the guys on this forum have been at it for 2 or 3 years. They have gained 2 inches or so on both directions. So good luck to you!

Hope this helps

edited for spelling

[vradav]

Im on my third week of PE and using the proenhance patch my question is about my first measurement after starting PE. Is the best time to measure on a day off? Is this how I know how much I have REALLY gained? I got one more week until my month is up im am pretty sure I have gained in girth I kind of measure with my fingers around the shaft and it feels wider than before I do this on my off days. Just cant wait til I can prove my gains with numbers.

[turtle]

Measure on a day off, and measure once a month.
turtle

[Intrepid]

Hello.
I was wondering if anyone had any advice on the proper time to measure any possible gains while using the SizeGenetics device. Specifically, how long after taking the device off can you consider a measurement to be "true"...in other words, the penis relaxing back to it's normal state after being stretched out?

The reason I ask, I measured my flaccid length this evening, and I'm finding it a bit hard to believe the difference in only three weeks. According to the tape, I've gained almost 3/4" of an inch in flaccid length, and this measurement was taken over two hours since taking the device off after getting home from work. No cheating in the measurement, just one tug to "uncoil" the penis, then the measurement. I have, however, been noticing in recent days a slight difference inside my briefs with the feel of my penis in it's flaccid state.

Any opinions/ideas?

[ScottMN]

You're right that the device will affect your gains in subsequent hours. Instead of measuring after you use it, measure before

[JLH]

ive been reading some different threads and am getting confused, so can some one just clear this up for me, when measuring erect length do you measure the length from the side or from the top???

cheers
JLH

[turtle]

If your interested in comparing your size with previous penis studies, the doctors measured from the top. Penis Health suggests measuring from the side. When you measure from the side it adds somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 inch to your length. The difference depends on the curvature of the pelvic bone in your body. Personally, I think the more important concern is to select a method and then use that method consistently over your PE adventure. As long as your consistent, you will be able to measure the change in size which in my opinion is the whole point of PE. If your primary concern is "how big am I compared to the rest of the world" then you should measure from the top. Out of curiousity, I have tried it both ways and I gain 1/4 inch from the side. My ruler, has about 1/4 inch of plastic before the measures actually start so I measure from the side and it gives me an accurate measure of the top. You can sand your ruler and measure from the top, or you can figure things out and adjust your point of measure. The bottom line though is that from the top is considered the true method for male comparison.
turtle

[JLH]

thanks for the advice turtle

JLH

[NEEDMORESIZE]

thats about how much time it took me to gain my first 1/4 inch in girth. Looks like were both in the same boat. The girth blues my friend. I feel your pain. But hey stick with it PE works. :sm34 the proof is there. Are you using pills or ROP or anything to help the process? But GREAT GAINS EITHER WAY THATS FANTASTIC KEEP IT UP!!!

to measure length measure fromt he top and push into the pelvic bone(not hard, just to where you can feel it touch)
for girth I wouldnt use a string. I find using that fabric measuring tape that you can get at any fabric store is very accurate and measure midshaft( but then again mine is pretty much the same thickness throughout so for me it doesnt matter. Just find a place to measure from and keep measuring from there as you move along that way you can have an accurate reading of your gains.

[JLH]

lol yeah the girth is moving up frustratingly slowly but its comin so ill keep at it, thanks for the advice. at the moment im using the ROP and just finishing PSP

JLH

[Bigbutts]

hey JLH what is your routine if you don't mind me asking, because i started around the same time you did.

[NEEDMORESIZE]

Hint for measuring girth.. PLAIN AND SIMPLE: use one of those fabric tape measurers that seemstress' use and stuff. U can get one for 88 cents at the fabric department in walrmart. Using a string and other materials leaves a lot of room for error. FOr exampl when I first started using a string I ended up giving myself .25 inch in girth that I actually didnt have. My best friend who just started did the same thing then I told him to use one of those fabric tape measurers and it turns out he ended up giving himself .25" of girth by using the string. Girth we didnt actually have. Not saying its wrong to use the string but Its a lot more accurate to use one of those tape measurers..
YA KNOW!!!! :sm35

[didher]

you can also take a piece of string, wrap it around and then measure the string :sm24

[damonhill]

yes but in his post he said ''Using a string and other materials leaves a lot of room for error. '' if you read it

[NEEDMORESIZE]

I tried that string thing and thats what I mean I ended up giving myself in inaccuarte extra 1/4" in girth that way

[turtle]

Using a string is about the silliest thing I have ever heard of. You can buy a tailor's measuring tape for less than one dollar in most places. If you live in a part of the world where you simply can't find this tape, then the string is an alternative that makes sense, but for anyone who can buy a cloth measuring tape it's insane not to buy one. This is the cheapest PE tool that you can own.
turtle

[Beat_the_Myth]

If you live in a part of the world where you simply can't find this tape, then the string is an alternative that makes sense
turtle

I think if you live in a place where you can't find any sort of tape, PE is the least of your worries...

[turtle]

I think if you live in a place where you can't find any sort of tape, PE is the least of your worries...

Cloth measuring tapes designed for measuring clothes are not available everywhere. Slacks, shirts, dress jackets the kind of clothes that need an accurate tape measure are really not a universal clothing standard. I'm sure there are a lot of places in this world, that are quite pleasant places, where this type of clothing is not the norm.
turtle

[Beat_the_Myth]

I was just trying to make a joke...no harm intended.

[turtle]

Totally understand, I'm just trying to keep things perfectly neutral.
turtle

[Beat_the_Myth]

That's no fun but I guess it's your prerogative. :D

[jojo69]

The seemstree tape is good, but I use masking tape. About 8 inches. start wrapping around. when the tape reaches the start mark with a pencil. The measure on your ruler. Then attach tape to the back of ruler. After a while you will see the different pencil marks

[trinifella1]

I tried using the string but its too much of a hassle.

[hiccupu]

try Jo Ann Fabric or other craft stores.

[cloudthinker]

any store that sells sewing supplies has them. You can even get one at wal-mart in their fabric department.

[damonhill]

or even ebay

[Neongene]

Yeah, their super cheap. I tried to take my moms but I got caught. i wouldn't tell her why I wanted it. So i bought my own.

[Cobra4.6]

How Accurate is measuring with a ruler? I measure from the base the the top tip is that good? I think I might be a bit bigger because I have a curve the points up to the left. And the way I measured my girth I got a string rapped it around the middle and then measured on a ruler. Is that right? My measurements where 6 inches in lenth and it with was 4.75. By the way im measuring could I be a bit bigger or smaller?

Also a bit of topic but I feel for my height im a bit small even though im average overall im 6' 1" or am i just crazy?

[Dazzlingdaz3]

How Accurate is measuring with a ruler? I measure from the base the the top tip is that good? I think I might be a bit bigger because I have a curve the points up to the left. And the way I measured my girth I got a string rapped it around the middle and then measured on a ruler. Is that right? My measurements where 6 inches in lenth and it with was 4.75. By the way im measuring could I be a bit bigger or smaller?

Also a bit of topic but I feel for my height im a bit small even though im average overall im 6' 1" or am i just crazy?

Hey Cobra,
bone pressed measurement is the way to go, push the ruler to the pubic bone, from the side or the top doesnt matter as long as you use the same place each time. Get a dressmaker tape from any haberdashery store and use that for your girth measurements.

This link will take you to my thread that will show photos on correct measuring, do it right the first time and you will never have to second guess

http://mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7571

As for your height vs penis size, the two are in no way related....... At 6 inches length and 4.75 girth you fall into the average category, possibly need a bit of work in the girth dept.

Cheers
Daz

[ISraDick]

i want to know how to measure right my penis length and i am now sure i am doing it right.

bpel - bone press all the way? should i take the ruler and realy put pressure until i can't go no more? ,the point is abover my penis
nbpel - from where to start?

[damonhill]

bpel is pretty much how you described it but no need to overdue pressure.

nbpel is where u can see the penis base start to come out from your veiw from above to the tip of your penis.

The main thing when measuring is just to be consistant and always measure the same way so you can clearly identify gains.

Hope this helps.

[freddyk70]

Just starting the program and I need some help measuring myself. The info I've read on the P/H site says "The ruler should be slightly pressing against your pubic bone", however I can easily pick-up a half-inch if I press the ruler hard against the pubic bone. I'm not really overweight(could stand to lose 10 lbs, but other than that I'm in pretty good shape around the middle) - but lets face it, there is a barrier of skin between the bone and the first part of your dick that is exposed.

Any suggestions?

freddyk70
(no measurements yet)

[turtle]

Basically It's your choice, but Bone Pressed means exactly that. It is trying to get the effect of the fat pad out of the equation. 1/2 inch is pretty normal. The whole idea is to select a method and stick with it so you will actually know what your gains have been. A lot of the penis studies over the years have not used bone pressed, so figure BPEL is about 1/4 to 1/2 inch longer than the average from these studies. Also PH says to measure from the side, but a lot of guys prefer to measure from the top. Again that's what the various studies usually do. Top to side is about a 1/4 inch less because of the curvature of the bone. I still say the most important thing is to pick one method and stick with it so that you know what your gains actually are.
turtle

[Int]

Ok, so I read the instructions on measuring ... but i'm still not sure that I am doing it right. I get myself really hard, and then do the measurements using the bone pressed method. Am I supposed to press it hard against the bone? Cause there's like 1.5 inches difference when I did the BPL and NBPL. Also, when I press it in against the bone, it's sort of under my dick, rather that right next to it. Is this the right place or should I get it higher? I really want an accurate measurement of my length.

On a little side note, I'm 6'5 and 185lbs, so not overweight by any means. Is there any way to eliminate the 'fat pouch' that is hiding my cock?

Thanks in advance for the answers!

[Earendil]

I measure BP erect length by taking a ruler, putting it on top of my dick and pressing it against the bone. I don't measure under the penis.

[Int]

Hmm, another question I had (and I ask because accuracy is very important to me) is whether measuring before/after PEing makes a difference. Also, what do you do to keep a solid erection while your measuring? Thanks again!

[longhoped]

before pe...after as well if you'd like....do it watching porn

[turtle]

Good Lord, this isn't rocket science. If you want to measure the way that most of the prior penis studies have done measure from the top and use Bone pressed. If you would rather have a visual measure of size then measure nonbone pressed. If you want to follow PH suggestions then measure from the side. Which is correct? Frankly, I don't give a damn. Pick one method and stick with that method so that you have a sense of growth measurement. The advantage of bonepressed is that if you lose a bunch of weight your gains will not be as influenced by the fat pad reduction as if you were doing nonbone pressed. General consensus is that top measures are probably the best because that allows you to compare to medical studies as far as typical size. However, anything works fine for growth, just be consistent. If your trying to lose weight then use bone pressed.
turtle

[mmilosav]

Go to a fitness gym they will provide a tape measure

[HaGa11aZ]

hello ima NEWBIE here :P

was wondering if the more experienced folks can advise me on the best methods of measuring my penis length/girth. What are the standards for comparison?

Thanx!

- A

[biggerandbetter]

Hey man,

This should sort you out :sm23

http://mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3290

Good luck with your gains mate!

[rob_S_83]

What is the best way to measure the penis? I use a tape measure and for length I Go from the side of the penis to the tip. Kinda have to because its a pain to measure it points upward and is curved so I have to follows the curve. Also I think it's pretty even on girth all the way around so i measure the upper middle portion for girth.

When I started using size genetics, pro solution and jelqs 3 months ago i think i was 3-3.5 soft lenth, and 5.5 length hard with 4.5 girth. But not sure if i was consistantly measuring accurately and the same way.

Now it is winter so maybe thats why it dont hang too long, but at first it increased to like 4-4.5 sometime length, i guess girth like 4.0 while soft but it doesnt seem to hang that long or thick at the moment at all besides the fact I have been doing this for 3 months. Right now for erection I think is around 6-6.5 so i'm gonna say 6.3" length, and 4.5 girth.

But it doesn't really look any bigger and i dunno if i have consistanly measured the same but doesn't seem like its growing longer or thicker!!!!! Sorry for the long post just wanted to know the correct way to measure so I can be sure if I'm getting results.

Although it is hard to measure from the top because when hard it is curved and points upwards so its difficult to straighten it and pull it down to measure.

Any info? Thank you.

[Big Al]

Charting Your Progress


Length- To measure the length of your penis in the erect state properly, simply take a tape measure and press the end as far back as it will go against your pubic bone on top of your penis (some men prefer to measure from the bottom, but results will be more accurate with measuring from the top.)

Run the tape along the curve of your penis all the way to the end of the glans. Record measurement. Measure every 2 weeks.

Within the first few months, you will progress rapidly. As with all forms of exercise, progress will start to taper somewhat after this. To keep progressing as stated before, you must keep increasing the intensity of the exercises.

For recording purposes, measuring while the penis is erect is the best way of recording progress. Although you will notice a dramatic increase in the size of your penis while it's unerect, unerect lengths vary too much to be an accurate method of gauging progress.

Girth- With your penis fully erect, wrap the measuring tape around your penis directly behind the glans. Record your girth progress as you do your length progress.

Stamina- Record your kegels and super kegels daily as listed in the kegels and super kegels section of this manual.

With your stop and starts, Note how long it takes for you to ejaculate the first time you try this. Try to aim at improving your stamina by at least 3 minutes every time.

When you have reached 25-30 minutes without ejaculating, premature ejaculation should no longer be a problem.

[rob_S_83]

Thanks for the reply. You know what I found out the other day. The top of the shaft is slightly wider than middle. If I can remember it was like 4.75 I think top, 4.5 mid, and at the base was like 5.0, or 5.1 thats crazy I just found out my new widest part of the shaft and never knew it. Is it okay to use the widest part for growth summary or only the top like you say?

And as for premature ejactualtion, just wonderin why you posted that, because it is funny you should. I have noticed my stamina was good before, I'd say 25-30 min before ejaculation, sometime 45 min or more, and sometimes 10 or 15 min just depending on when was the last sexual encounter. But I'd say average 25-30 min.

NOW after all this jelqing, all the prosolution pills, and using the traction device, I find that I am hornier much more often. All 3 methods CLAIM to make you last LONGER, BUUUT I have noticed that I ejaculate much quicker than ever before due to all the extra sensitivity and what not. But they CLAIM to make you last LONGER not SHORTER. SO whats up with that?????? If I go from start to finish now without stopping I guess it would take 5-10 min to finish. Thats crap!!!!! SO I have to always take a lil cooldown break to be able to keep going. Wonder why this is?

Do you know why they claim to make you last longer but I am lasting so much shorter?

[biggerandbetter]

Rob... jelqing, pills, devices, or any PE won't help you with making your lasting time longer. There's one thing that can though, PC flexes! They're so important it's not funny.

Give them a go, start fairly easy... and increase each week till you get good enough for the "PC killer". Don't overdo it, have rest days, cos an overworked, tired PC muscle = serious premature ejaculation!

[rob_S_83]

Thanks I will check em out.

[biggerandbetter]

No worries man :sm29

[big222]

Anyone knows to measure a bend or curved penis? esp. the length. I haved used a piece of string to this but I think it is less accurate as I have diffulties in making a same erect strengths for my penis. Should I make average readings?

[longhoped]

You have the right idea! Using a string is the suggested method...It all depends how much of a curve your working with! Mine curves left some, but I just measure regular. Like I said I guess its all how much it leans!

[whouwith]

My question is, if you have a curve in your penis do you straighten out the penis to measure the penis while it is straight or do you just measure from base to tip without the straightening. Which would make more sense? I have also heard of measuring length with a ruler and measuring with the bend. ANY responses are welcomed.

[whouwith]

I would love to hear from some of the vets too, this question has me a little worried. big al, turtle, daz, ....what do you think about this

[bULL]

If you have a bend then you certainly cannot measure with a ruler. You need a measuring tape that is used for fabrics and such. All you need to do is to touch it to the top side of the penis all the way from the base to the end of the head. This way you will get the full length measurement.

[BigTymer]

I had another question about measuring... It doesn't have to do with curves, but it seems like Bone pressing is sort of ridiculous because it gives you an extra .5 inch. Personally, I think measuring how much is actually going in the girl is what counts.

[whouwith]

I am still skeptical about this because if you measure along the curve you are measuring the side of the penis that is longer which does not give a true measurement. However if you measure the penis with a ruler and do not straighten the penis it seems as if you are cheating yourself out of some length because the ruler only measures in a straight line.

Different Methods:

Along Curve- 7.75 inches NBPEL
With ruler and not bending penis- 7 NBPEL
With ruler and bending the penis to where it is straight- 7.25 NBPEL

This is issue is driving me crazy...I know in the kinsey report, the men marked against a card but it doesnt say if they straightened the penis or not. Any more comments are welcomed!

[Dazzlingdaz3]

I am still skeptical about this because if you measure along the curve you are measuring the side of the penis that is longer which does not give a true measurement. However if you measure the penis with a ruler and do not straighten the penis it seems as if you are cheating yourself out of some length because the ruler only measures in a straight line.

Different Methods:

Along Curve- 7.75 inches NBPEL
With ruler and not bending penis- 7 NBPEL
With ruler and bending the penis to where it is straight- 7.25 NBPEL

This is issue is driving me crazy...I know in the kinsey report, the men marked against a card but it doesnt say if they straightened the penis or not. Any more comments are welcomed!

Hey mate,
Don't get too hung up on the measuring side of things. Bone pressed measurements are taken so that gains through PE can be readily identified. The important thing is to be consistent on how and where you measure. As for comparing yourself against the average, all the measuremnts you have taken are in excess of 7" therefore you are in the larger category compared to the average size. Hopefully that bit of info can make you rest easy. As for the other observation by bigtymer The BPEL measure is used to discount the variables of the fat pad which varies from person to person. If you see this as pointless, simply list your stats as NBPEL - non bone pressed erect length, this is the amount of penis visible to the beholder and not hidden by the fat pad.As for how much a girl gets? She gets my full 7+" when I pound her as I can push past my fat pad, even though nearly an inch is hidden here. my NBPEL is 6+" for the record ;) Oh, and take this into consideration. If you are standing next to guy that has a BPEL 7" penis and no fat pad so the full 7" is visible and you also have a BPEL of 7" but 0.5" - 1" is lost to your fat pad and only 6"-6.5" is visible, dont you want it to be recognised that essentailly you both have the same sized dick? I know that I do!!! ;)

Cheers
Daz

[whouwith]

Thanks Daz,

I can always count on you for a response. I am a math major and the whole principle is just killing me. I feel since the penis is 3D and we establish "size" in volume and that compared to other guys, a penis which is curved can be straightened out to the shape of a cyliner. This is where the volume calculations are satisfied and besides what amount of the penis goes inside the vagina (length), we can get a 'true' volume of a penis by calculating the volume of a cylinder.

Clarification: Despite the actual length that inserts into a vagina, the volume of the penis can be calculated by finding the radius and length of the penis (length and girth) and in this method the penis should resemble a cylinder in order to compare with others.

Having said all that, there is one more thing that I am pondering.... does the vagina walls cause the penis to straighten inside the vagina since it is a one way canal or does the penis stay curved inside the vagina?

All of these are the many questions i have about life. I am always thinking.

By the way Daz, you are right its not that big of a deal since i am above average in length but I still wonder.....

[Dazzlingdaz3]

Hey mate,

Penis volume and cylinder measurement, Yep!! good to know,as you will see, I have it in my stats. Penis bending in wall of vagina or vice versa? I reckon a bit of both as both are flexible. Extra stimulation with a slight bend I suspect :)

Questions about life and always thinking? Join the club mate ;)

Cheers
Daz

[BigTymer]

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. (Picked myself up off of the ground...) It just seems like I was looking at it in a negative way. Thanks for keeping me with positive attitude. This will also help other people with their mental blocks as well.

[Momo]

I personally don't get hung up on stats, either. When you get to a "good size", you'll know it, and that''s all that matters. And as long as you keep working at it, well, you're doing your part, so why worry? Though, I will admit, it is exhilarating when you actually bother to break out the ruler as see that you've exceeded another inch/cm-mark on the ruler/tape. "Holy crap! -I never though I'd get this far!" -you say. But yep, it's possible.

[claytonmoore]

Be sure to measure correctly using bone press for length and measuring the three places on the shaft and then averaging the measurements for girth. Using measurement that I thought was right, I was off on length by half an inch and off on girth by almost a whole inch!:sm24

[w0ngster]

Hey, ok i just started this program and am about a week into it. I am alittle chubby,. My dilema is that when i pull out my penis (not circumsized btw) i notice that the fat around my pubic area covers the base of my penis. Its not until i push the meat back that my penis looks bigger. I was wondering do i measure my penis by pushing all the meat back so that the ruler hits my pubic bone or just measure it regularly without pushing the meat back.

[turtle]

Two schools of thought on this one. There is BPEL, Bone Pressed Erect Length, and NBPEL, obviously none. The bone pressed erect method limits the effect of the fat pad. Theoretically, this is a more consistent measure since it is not confounded by weight gain or loss. However NBPEL is what it looks like, in other words the visible portion. Many people prefer this because visual effect of what she sees. Other variations are measuring choices of either the top or the side. You'll gain about 1/2 inch measuring from the side. The so-called penis studies usually used BPEL measured from the top. In my opinion the main thing is to pick an approach and be consistent. I would say that BPEL measured on top gives you that consistency and allows you to have a sense of comparison with prior studies.
turtle

[w0ngster]

thx turtle
btw bytheway what are your gains as of now and the time you have been on this system?
and if you have your progress charted what is the gains you have made within a week to 1 or 2 months gains

[turtle]

Look at my signiture, and there is a stickie in the Newbie section called my first six months. Check it out.
turtle

[toniskiboot]

i have seen several tests and surveys about the "average" penis size. do they use the bone pressed method that you guys use? another supposedly good method i read is to get 100% erect and fully bend your penis downwards pointing to the ground and measure from base to tip. will this method be consistent with the non-bone pressed measurements?

[Maximo]

I think that if one got a curve penis the measurement should be done from the side, otherwise if it's done from the top there would be some lose.

[Chris DX]

I have little curvature, and what I do is pushing it a little against the ruler. Anyways the difference isn´t too much, less than 3mm, I haven´t do the math but of course if the curve is bigger the difference should be noticeable.

[illnana06]

Can someone explain to me the point of measuring bone pressed because personnally I don't think it gives you the true measurements. Why am I pushing the ruler into myself. Just want to know the reasons of measuing BP vs. NBP

[chazster]

The reason is because if you change weight than then the fat pad between your penis and pubic bone may also change. This way you will track your gains better and it will not be effected by gaining or losing weight. Thats the just of it.

[bobbear]

I wondered that myself at first but the more I read the more I felt that was the best way to measure.

It is not effected by the fat pad as already stated, you always have the same reference point when measuring so there is no guess work, and for me personally I have a lot of scrotum. Meaning I even have skin that rolls over on the top at the base, It begins quite a ways down my shaft, and I hang fairly low in that department.

For me bone pressed was the easiest. Some without these issues my be able to find a good refernce point. I wanted to be as consistant as possible so I went BP.

[Vine]

The standard is to measure along the top.

Big Vine

[Unprecedent3d]

i measure along the top and the side. but my goals are for the top bpel. i think the top bpel is what the ladies really feel.

[Vine]

Which reminds me...

Whatever way one chooses to measure, it ought to be consistent and remain that way. Otherwise you risk short-changing yourself or even over-estimating your PE gains.

Still, for the sake of having a reasonable basis for comparison to the gains of other men on the forum, the 'along the top' form of measurement is ideal.

Big Vine

[Vine]

Both.

Big Vine

[Big Al]

Measure bone pressed along the top and along the curve. Use a flexible tape or some string if you have to.

[biolex]

measuring your size is filled with many different variables such as:

when should I measure - morning, afternoon, before bed etc.
should I use bone preasure or no-bone preasure
what should I use to measure

and I'm sure there are a number of other questions and a lot of the answers to these questions come down to personal preference. One thing that I have found that might also give some people that are not seeing any gains a little more encouragement is to take a break from PEing before you take your measurements.

I find that if I completely stop PEing for at least 2 days I get more accurate and consistent results when checking my progress. Whereas, if I if I take measurements on days that I do PE my results go up and down. So for me personally I would recommend that before you take your measurements to check your progress give yourself a break for a couple days to give your penis time to fully recover.

This is just my 2 cents

[Big Al]

If you're measuring for your records, it's best if you try to measure under the same conditions each time. For a lot of men, measuring first thing in the morning gives the most consistent readings.

[Kawika Boy]

ok im an idiot!! i know there must be a thread discussing how to "correctly" measure and what all the letters stand for in peoples post....can someone point me in the right direction?

[BetterWhiteMeat]

YOur not an idiot
but you can find measuring techniques on penishealth.com
or you can do a forum search which should find the answers your looking fo the defs. of the abreveatins should be in newbie section futher down the main index page
HOpe this helps

[Unprecedent3d]

Just a question for **l the p/e'ers out there. I know theres no one train of thought on this. I just wanted to know how most of you guys measured. From the top or the side? I'm sure some of you measure from both, but which one do you re**ly regard as the re** measurement?

Moved to appropriate forum ;)

[Dazzlingdaz3]

Hi mate,

I have **ways measured Side Bone Pressed, I can see the measurements and take good photos this way. For seeing your gains, it doesnt matter where you measure as long as it is the same way and spot every time.

For comparison against the "average" I believe that Top Bone Pressed is the correct method.

Cheers
Dazz

[blahblah11]

sorry for this stupid question but i couldnt find a specific answer i was looking for using the search engine. OK so when measuring BPEL ((Bone Pressed Erection Length) do i have to push the ruler as far as it will go? and for NPEL (Non bone pressed erection length) do i just touch the ruler on my skin? thank you

This thread has been moved to the appropriate forum to which it belongs.
Big Vine

[Vine]

Yes, and make sure that the ruler is positioned along the top side of your penis while you are measuring.

Big Vine

[Vine]

For "official" scientific purposes, etc., I'm really not sure at all.

However, I've always thought that measuring mid-shaft girth (taking the thickest part of your shaft...omitting the base...and measuring its circumference) is the best indication of penis girth. When most people list their girth measurement, I believe that they are listing a measurement according to the method that I just described for mid-shaft girth.

I could be wrong about that though.

Still, one could take base girth, which is often-times thicker than mid-shaft girth, or head girth---which, as you mentioned, is sometimes thicker than shaft girth.

I feel that the best policy is to define "girth" as meaning the circumference of the thickest point along one's shaft---between (but not including) the base and the glans.

Any other form of girth ought to be listed separately (in one's signature/stats, for example) under the heading "base girth" or "head/glans girth."

Maybe everyone has been doing it differently. Beats the hell out of me. This is just my opinion on things.

Big Vine

[TheGuv]

I suppose just as long as you always measure the same point, then it doesn't matter, does it?

[turtle]

Some people like to take three measurements; the base, midpoint, behind the glan. I'm just not that anal. I just take one at the midpoint. I agree the main point is to take it at the same point every time so you know what is happening.
turtle

[dickoder]

hello turtle, regarding the pubic fat, i'm not used to be fat or overweight, but i'm a bodybuilder and have some good shape, unfortunatly i dont do any of legs or abdo exercised since i dont have that big fat in stomach, i'm 171 cm height and 75 kg weight, but eventhough i realized that i have a 1 inch under the pubic coushion, and some scruntum wrinkles arround the down base, all of these made the flaccid length looks smaller, i decided finally to complete my traning exercise and exepend it to cover legs and abdo if this help, and if any cream or product name can hel please let me know, need the help badly.

just to be sure, when we measure the BPEL, wich is bone press, u press the ruler on the side of the penis to hit the bone, and measure to the top, usually the rulers start by
1 cm far from the base, should this 1 cm be calculated too in the lenght or not?

dickoder,
These questions have already been posted and responded to in another section of the forum. Please, in the interests of keeping the forum as clutter-free as possible, refrain from posting duplicate threads/posts in the future.
Big Vine

[timmy86]

Ok guys, I have a big measurement issue that's tormenting me!! Lsn carefully:

It seems that when my penis is fully erect I get a measurement that is smaller than when the penis undergos the state from fully erect to flaccid!!

If I measure my penis right after masterbation, I measure 18.5cm but when I'm fully erect 17.5cm!!

I need help

[ebon00]

This really needs a very long explanation on the properties of the tunica but you can find that elsewhere on this site (I've posted about it numerous times). "Bone up" on the anatomy and don't worry about it. Think about it like this, now if you lose your erection just a little during sex, which one is wont to do, you'll probably be just a little bit larger. Nice thought, huh?

[timmy86]

I didnt really understand your point. I guess you meant I was right about measuring bigger when not fully erect anymore...

So which exactly is my erect length then!!???

Could you please passte the link where you explained this cause I tried searching and had no luck finding.

Thank you

[ebon00]

OK, the tunica consist of two layers; one with fibers running the length of the penis and one with the fibers running across the penis. The combined tensile strength of these is what gives the penis its hardness when erect (filled with blood). At maximum erection both layers are pretty much fighting each other, and the supensory ligament, so that everything is, in a word, very tight. Once you're not at full mast the pressure releases somewhat which allows the layers a bit of leeway. For some this will mean that the lengthwise layer can expand a little extra, for others it's the across layer (I don't know whether this has anyting to do which layer is the outer one or not but that makes sense mechanically speaking).

But, visual/conceptual aids are always a good thing so here's an example. Think of the two layers of the tunica as two baloons; one is the long and fairly narrow kind, the other the short and round kind. Blowing up the long baloon to its full length isn't overly hard, right? But now imagine that long baloon placed inside the short, round baloon. How much harder would it be to blow it up to its full length? That's the kind of interplay that occurs between the two layers, and is necessary to ensure the stiffness of the erection.

I have a feeling that the suspensory ligament, which attaches to the tunica, also has somehing to do with this but I don't really have a good, anatomically sounds theory on that. Anyway, the "correct" measurement is fully erect, measured at a 90 degree angle to your body (parallell to the floor) while standing. Why? Because it's consistent. If you measure the not-quite-fully-erect way how can you be sure that your measurements are comparable? Maybe your were 95% erect on the first and only 91% on the next. Could that change in erection level cause different measurements? Probably. So stick with the standard measurement.

[musclebod11]

I seem to think my penis does this also, but it might just be mental, my advice is to do a lot of tunica streches!

[timmy86]

So would you classify measuring your penis pointing downwards (not parallel to the floor) cheating? Cause it does measure a cm extra...

[Vine]

If you want to measure it downwards, then go right ahead.
Other folks may misinterpret your definition of "erect length" if you list your measurements after having measured this way, but who cares, right? I mean, only you will know that you have "cheated" (measured differently) to get that extra centimeter.

But, if you wanna stick with what most people are doing as far as more "official" measurements go, then do as Ebon just described.

It is only "cheating" in the sense that you would be cheating yourself.

Big Vine

[ebon00]

So would you classify measuring your penis pointing downwards (not parallel to the floor) cheating? Cause it does measure a cm extra...

I'm with Big Vine, knock yourself out. If it's more important to you to have that "extra" centimeter now then by all means.

[timmy86]

If you want to measure it downwards, then go right ahead.
Other folks may misinterpret your definition of "erect length" if you list your measurements after having measured this way, but who cares, right? I mean, only you will know that you have "cheated" (measured differently) to get that extra centimeter.

But, if you wanna stick with what most people are doing as far as more "official" measurements go, then do as Ebon just described.

It is only "cheating" in the sense that you would be cheating yourself.

Big Vine

Yeah, I obviously meant I'd be cheating myself, not others... I wanna have a big penis for the ladies not for virtual competitions. Was just trying to get a point through and see if someone understood it.

So I guess I'll have to work harder and be more patient cause I gained less than what I thought...

Timmy

[jade_permenda]

So I guess I'll have to work harder and be more patient cause I gained less than what I thought...
Not if that's how you measured the first time, because then the gains are consistent!;) :)

[TheFurBurgler]

Where does the pubic bone officially start that you measure from?

[gstandup]

you press the ruler against ur bone (fat pad)

[idontknow247]

so do u push until u feel the bone? or do u start at the skin? cuz it goes in depending on how much fat u got there.

[anth1225]

you have to push until you feel the bone so that the fat pad doesn't mess w/ the true results.
Just like in surveying you need a solid unmovable bench mark to gauge all your other measurements.

[Big Al]

Full details on measuring here: http://www.penishealth.com/members/measuring.html

[gotpepsi]

iron,
why do you think that gaining to 8 inch is impossible. dont you have faith that you can gain to that measure! dont doubt yourself!