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madmanandmystic
06-20-2005, 03:46 PM
Hey all,
I have an emotional and psychological problem due to size. I'd like to hear your stories as well to see if I am the only one out there feeling this way. Here goes.
I'm 25 years old and have grown up watching porn like all of us and I guess from a very young age it was deeply imlanted in my psyche that I would grow up to be hung like a horse like the guys in the porn flicks. Time went by and now I'm 25 and only about 5.75 hard and much smaller when not erect. I was very disappointed and hurt and still am to be honest. I have such a HUGE hang up regarding my size that when I go out I don't approach girls because I'm afraid something WILL happen and I will have to have sex but the girl will be disappointed if she sees me naked, and also I think that she has been with guys that are much bigger and that she won't feel anything by me being inside of her. Here is a sick story to see how much this affected me growning. I'm only 5'7 but I was a GREAT basketball player growing up and had potential to possibly go pro, but the biggest fear that held me back was the fact that I would be sharing a locker room with guys that are 6'5 and hung like horses and I could just picture myself being the laughing stock of the locker room not to mention the media. Isn't that SICK? Isn't it sick how we are conditioned from a young age? The sad thing is it STILL hurts me a lot... My girlfriend for three years is friends with her exboyfriend, who she dumped to be with me, and she told me that he had avery big dick and this KILLS ME!!! I have even told her about my hangup... I just can't seem to shake this HUGE insecurity...What do I do??? What did you do?
Seriously, I need to know...Any and all comments would be GREATLY appreciated.
Oh, here is the funny thing, I have never had anything but complaments from girls I've been with, and I allow my insecurity to take me back to those moments and invalidate them thinking that they were lying to me... help please!!!

MadmanAndMystic

shadow1
06-20-2005, 04:15 PM
you're not alone ,i had and still have somewhat of a hangup with my size ,as you can see i started at the same length you are,i'm 31 and married .before i was married i had the same thing with talking to women and thinking they would say stuff, but they never did, i went for it and figured if they didn't like it i would and that was good enough for me. you have to try and put it in the back of your mind,it'll always be there, but you can move on and eventually you won't think about it as much .slowly but surely you'll power over it and it won't control that part of your life as much. hope that helps lol

falcon
06-20-2005, 05:29 PM
That's right Madman,

All of us guys walk around thinking we aren't big enough. Especially when you are short like me 5'5" standing next to a guy that is 6'4" with forearms as big as my legs! :eek:

I look at this guy and can't imagine I could actually have a bigger dick than him. Ever. Hell, he’s bigger in every way. How could I possibly compete in the penis size arena?

But from everything I read it's a very good possibility that I'm packing bigger meat than him. Even so, when he's standing there all the logic in the world doesn't help.

You have good size and should never be ashamed of it. PE will help enhance what you naturally have and wearing a ROP will defiantly help in giving you a much better hang for those special “Look what I’m packing” locker room moments. If you haven't tried the ROP I suggest you look into it. Do searches on the Ring of Power on this site for more information. The ROP has really worked well for me.

Falcon

Hardywerker
06-21-2005, 04:32 AM
hey man im going through the same depression like thing...but the good news is ur penile lenght is actually in the average range...i verified with a doctor and my penile lenght of 5 bpel is actually in normal range(i guessed its an asian thingy)....but i looks small in my body thats why its bringging me down....i was depressed though...then i talked it out wit my father and he told me that its reali not a thing to have low self esteem about.......no human should ever feel inferior to another human....the penis is just an organ...it doesnt make u who u are!!! he told me that his is small too but that didnt stop him from doing his best...maybe ur just too hard on urself comparing wit pornstars?!?!? anyway if penis size shows the man u are then i guessed people would check ur penile lenght in their job interviews? i know of a guy who is one of the most successful advertising agent around..hes taller and heavier but have a smaller penis than mine...but it didnt stop him from doin what he wants? so feel better go on wit ur basketball...heck what everyone thinks...its just an organ...and another good news....its possible to make it bigger so....yeah!!!! hell yeah!!!!PE!!

malcolm
06-23-2005, 03:40 AM
Madman, I'm from Africa and you should see what they got going here. I had the same locker room hangups as you. I mean I used to see guys with dicks flaccid longer and fatter than mine erect. I used to be 4.75inch erect an about 4 inch girth. (Now 5.75 and 4.5)

Yeah it used to affect me big time. But you know what. If you hit on the fast bitches that jump from guy to guy, then you probably gonna get burnt. i found out that if you go after the more decent girls then they don't have hangups about penis size. Sometimes girls end up dumping guys because their dick is too big and they can't handle it. Especially if they haven't been having lots of sex. (Yes you can still find those around). Maybe your partner is more comfortable with your size.

So if youre in a good relationship then don't stress out about it. Rather work on your lovemaking technique and PE until you start getting the compliments about your dick size. I don't have many hangups, although I still cover up slightly in the gym. But in my relationship I'm a free man. But sometime soon I will be walking but naked through the friggin locker room and daring all to take a look. Oh Yeah... :cool:

NEEDMORESIZE
06-30-2005, 06:29 PM
I think a lot of us really understand where your coming from. WIth a starting girth of 4" and 6" length. I felt the same way. But we can change that and you have to remember if we went to Korea...we'd be the big guys.. HEhehehe just kidding..but not really.

The guys are right just put it in the back of your mind and dont let it effect your PE. SO many times in just my 2 months today of doing this I wanted to quite cause I didnt think it was going to do anygood and I still have moments like that. But it will take time and dedication to grow.I rarely had any trouble pleasing girls. In fact I usually got a wow after I made them pop like a balloon. so remeber skills has a lot to do with it as well. But still the insecurity haunts me now and then.

Its rough and I feel your pain.

ChronDick
06-30-2005, 08:42 PM
Madman, have no worries my friend, why do you think we are all here?

This is exactly what this forum is for, encouragment not only in PE but life as well.

We all came here with the same mind state as yourself, why am I so small i would ask myself, I bet that last girl I was with told all of her friends that I was small so now I can't even face them. Sound familiar? We have all been there friend, but remember, for every guy that is larger than you, there is still one smaller than you.

You have come to the right place, and the path has been put ahead of you to success, you only need to take the steps now my friend.

Good Luck

Chron

Psychologist
07-01-2005, 05:24 AM
I don't like to admit but am afraid I have the same mental complexes as you have.Even though at 5'',3 length am completely normal it just makes feel adequate.I had a girlfriend last year for couple of days and I never managed to be 'aggresive' enough to mount her and I am sure she wanted it .Have always felt shy because of my penis although nowdays I have improved.The mental blocks have taken the best outta me and am a bit frustrated :( .
Even though I feel ridiculed that I have to spend so much energy on my penis I decided to face the hell with it and settle the matter once and forever.Just wanna get out of the fives :rolleyes:

wohoo19m
07-01-2005, 11:33 AM
I had a girlfriend last year for couple of days

Hehe, sorry but what happenned that it only lasted this long? And by the way people, keep your enthusiasm up, PE is a long hard road. It may take years to achieve what you want. But nothing in life that's worth having is easy to get. You don't need to have a size complexe now, you've found the solution. Now you just have to work for it.

Psychologist
07-01-2005, 12:17 PM
I went to her place to see her and we were sitting on the bed talking.I was so stressed that I couldn't even make the first move to kiss her.Not to mention that she was HOT.The main reason I had stress is because I felt inadequate quite a lot.Even though when I was kissing her i was as hard as a penis can get, when we were getting closer to an area that has the potential of accomodating us for sex I was getting serious mental blocks.After a week we broke up for silly reasons.Am not sure what was it but am sure I could of mounted her. It seems to me that the porno movies fucked my brain up and thus I feel that I lack as a male :mad:. Am very pissed off about all these :(

hhh
07-01-2005, 04:20 PM
Madman-

I know where you're coming from and many here can relate. I am 39 but it wasn't really till the advent of internet porn and seeing what was out there that I became depressed about that aspect of my life. Although I am just starting out w/ PE, I am much happier about the outlook of my size. Before I discovered PE, I just assumed the only remedy was surgery, which I would never do.

Just get started like everyone else has done here and you'll start feeling betterimmediately by just knowing that you are headed in the right direction... :)

kdogg101
07-01-2005, 05:56 PM
Hey I'd like to throw my opinion of this thread also. I also feel like I have the hang-up on size also. I am a 19 year old asian guy that I believe is suffering from that size stereotype. I haven't had a gf and when I did try and approach them I got rejected. Even at my current length I feel inferior to other guys. Also I am also scared that my first gf or sexual encounter will have the girl saying " thats it" and barrading me with her girl friends. It seems that girls are cruel people that are all about "size" even with those decent ones. Also with all those feelings of inadequacy(SP) I lost my sex drive and havent regained it for 3 months. Also I worry about that first encounter with a girl I like finding out she can't ride me because I have a problem with one of the chambers.

That thought of having that girl laughing at me because she can't ride me unless its being held has been something thats burned into my head. I am seriously scared to approach girls with that aspect. Also I am the guy that gets the comments of "hey good looking" but I can't get a date to save my life.

Anyway thats the start of my opinon on this thread :(

mirwalk
07-01-2005, 08:19 PM
Hey all. big ditto on this thread. I am 21, but I think I don't so much have a problem with my size as my overall appearance (overweight). I also have a hangup about my size but my appearance really keeps me from going for the tail.

I just started my program and hope to get some gains soon. I know it will be a long haulm but the sooner I see results the more motivated I will be.

Hardywerker
07-02-2005, 12:33 AM
hey man u got nothin to reali worry bout...k i went into serious depression (and still recovering from it) because of this size inferiority complex.....im a 5"bpel and 4" girth.....kinda short and skinny....seriously was depressed and all....but then i decided i want to live my life and be strong....im starting to embrace it as it is what god have given me..its part of who i am...nobody is perfect...i am someone who gets compliments bout my looks and bodybuild....more pressure to have the grrr.....but thats who i am...a handsome guys with.... well small dick...embrace it...yes people laugh...so be it...then recently i got a girlfriend...we started making out and all then she proceed to give me a handjob....i told her straight....sorry if my dick is too small for yah....she smiled and yanked it harder and faster...kheheheh....well she took a good look at it and said it looks fine...i said its my flaw and she sut me up and kissed me and said...well its not a flaw to me...i then vowed to her that ill perform better than bigger counterparts...welll maybe im lucky but the point is....u have a so called flaw and it involves natural pride for men...but are u gonnna be hunted by it forever?....for me ill just try my best with whatever i got....anyway the more people know i have a small dick ...the lesser the pressure for me?.....i refuse to be hunted by it ever again....im a warrior soul maybe in a not so perfect body.....Anyway theres also PE!!!!.... i try my best to improve it by pe while i embace what i am.....this is who i am....DONT mess wit my little DICKY!!!!!! kehehehehe stay positive people....PE go!!!!!

Psychologist
07-02-2005, 09:48 AM
There is a industry behind the brainwash we receive on the net about our penises.There are certain people out there who earn money by playing psychological games with naive souls and by exploiting that we have today what we call PE etc.SIZE MATTERS is a well known psychological trick to get our money.
If you have a normal you can please your wife and yourself perfectly.Nonetheless they have pass into us the notion that if we have smaller dicks we oughta be ashamed.People have taken up the big lie which says that our value as human beings is on how much stuff we have. The TRUTH based on several studies from established doctors is that the average size is from 5.3'' to 6''.Studies were the objects were allowed to measure themselves had always shown exaggerated results over 6''.When the doctors measure is different and the average has been most of the times below 6''.If your dick is within the length I stated you are average and you have NOTHING to be scared of.Also being shorter than someone else doesn't mean a god damn thing about your value as a man.In my opibion how valuable and worthy you are isn't something dependent on your dick but rather dependent on how much love you can deliver to the girls and to all humans.If you feel that your dick is where your value relies then what you really saying is that I lack as a human and in order for me to be happy i need something outside me to change.That something is mainly peoples opinion about your dick rather than how big it is.As long as they don't change i'll continue to be unhappy.I make my happiness dependent upon what other people say and be aware that if you wait for them to change you might wait forever.For those with tiny dicks of course PE is necessary but for most of us its because of low self esteem. In ancient Greece having a big dick was considered bad.Have you noticed the Greek statues? ;).If today we had a society which preaches that we oughta be short(in the 5'') we would all feel ashamed for being bigger.
For a girl to dump you because you are 'short' means that shes definitely a slut and am ashamed of her.She shouldn't even even think about it.It's like saying to a girl that you have small tits therefore i don't want you :confused: ....it's sick.All normal creatures would never treat you as a sex toy and if they do its a sing that you are with the wrong person.

turtle
07-02-2005, 11:27 AM
A lot of what pyschologist says is right on the mark. I started PE because I was trying to effect my ability to get an erection. I thought that the increase in size was total marketing bullshit. Understand I am not complaining about my new size, but I can honestly say I was never ashamed of my original size. I had a lot of fun with it, and there were a number of young ladies who didn't seem to have any problems with it. Now I'm and old man but I still have fun with it. Guys, you are what you are, it isn't worth a mental breakdown. If you can change things, via PE, then just say thankyou and enjoy yourself. Self pity accomplishes nothing. Enjoy yourself, enjoy your life, be proud of yourself, and if some woman gives you grief, then Fuck Her! she's not worth the hassle.
turtle

ttzofutah
07-02-2005, 11:53 AM
In a Way all of us have been there, and that is why we are here...

I feel that i am small also, I am 6.5" EL and 4.5" EG, so long and skinny.
I have been told that by many girls.. And yes most girls say that they prefure Girth over Length. So how do ya think that has made me feel?

Now i am only 25, and have slept with many many Women, Yes i get that thought in the back of my head, of "what is she going to think?"
But i just shut it out and know what I can work my shit. I have never had trouble getting a girl to Orgasm... Wiether i had to do lots of Oral first, Or just pace myself and keep slowing down, so that i don't Cum before her. I try to always get the job done...

But i am here to work on Girth and Stamina...

So brother welcome to the forum and Good luck to us all....

Psychologist
07-02-2005, 12:34 PM
Although at 5,3'' am normal I would prefer something bigger.It is my impression that certain positions are more comfortable if you have a bigger sausage.

The bottom line is if you are normal and you know it and you had the bad luck to drive yourself to a girl which she ended up to be a bitch then try to contain yourself and send her to hell.Try to make happiness something that you create it inside you regardless of the circumstances or whatever anybody thinks about you.I know easily said that done..... :rolleyes:

BIGDICKJ
07-02-2005, 05:06 PM
I've been reading you guys post and thought I might add my own. Im a black male and grew up in a family among men hung like horses. My current size is 6.25 X 5.25 erect. Growing up I would get comments like "yo, why is your dick so tiny" Also Im a big porn fan so watching those guys with hulk dicks didnt help either.

I am now over 30 and had gotten over that complex until my girlfriend of 5 years and I seperated and I met this new chick and all she talked about was the depressing times she had with guys with small dicks, and how and nice big dick satisfies her so much. At that moment I became nervous. The very first time we had sex she stop me in the middle of it and said she felt uncomfortable. She never explained why, and to this day we never had a second experience. One day we were cracking jokes on each other on the phone and she said" you know you could use a couple more inches on that dick of yours" (OUCH!!!) I felt like I was 2 feet tall.

After I stop dating this woman I met another who would say she loves guys with big dicks also. I had sex with her and she came like 5 times and couldnt take anymore and her pussy was flamming red after. However sometimes during sex I would have my whole dick up in her and she would scream out "DEEPER, GIVE ME MORE"and I felt so horrible cuz I had nomor to giv her" and sometimes she wouldnt cum.

My point is that a "Big Dick" is different in many womans opinion. HOWEVER, there aren't to many woman out there that wouldn't pay to put a 8 X 6 erect penis in there hands. Ive seen and 8 x 6 and it looks massive. If you know how to work it im sure you can make any woman see the clouds.

Hands down in my opinion a Big Cock beats a small on anyday. Hey just think, if it didnt, this forum would have never been created. So I say to all PE PE and more PE....... WOMAN LOVE GUYS WITH BIG DICKS...... There no woman on the planet that would say they wouldnt feel better telling there friends they met a guy with an 8" dick than one with a 5"...

Don't believe all the hype about how dick size dont matter. Face it , it does. Run threw a lockerroom with a 5incher and see wut happens. Then come back and tell me if size matters. Most women have seen big dicks before wheather its tv or real life, and if you think your dick is small chances are it is. so wut ever she tells you, you better believe shes just trying not to hurt your feelings. Woman know how much this means to us and the ones who love you will avoid a "size conversation" at all cost. Hey would you tell the woman you love her tits are too small, her ass is flat or her pussy was not as wet as ur ex??? I dont think so....... SO in conclusion PE and dont stop PEING. and when you get your big dick , show it off. You deserve it....

Im not tryin to put any one down cuz mine is small also, thats why im here. but once we start accepting that size does matter will work harder to achive our goals!!!!

Psychologist
07-02-2005, 05:23 PM
6.25'' is small? :rolleyes:

Sorry dude but you don't know how to appreciate what you have.I wish I had over 6

BIGDICKJ
07-02-2005, 09:23 PM
6.25'' is small? :rolleyes:

Sorry dude but you don't know how to appreciate what you have.I wish I had over 6


Its small when you grow up in a household of 7.5 - 8 inchers...

mindless
07-06-2005, 11:43 AM
Hehe, sorry but what happenned that it only lasted this long? And by the way people, keep your enthusiasm up, PE is a long hard road. It may take years to achieve what you want. But nothing in life that's worth having is easy to get. You don't need to have a size complexe now, you've found the solution. Now you just have to work for it.

You're damn right! I agree!

falcon
07-06-2005, 10:09 PM
One of the reasons us men focus on our dicks so much is we all try to make other men think their dick's are smaller than ours. We continually say shit to show we have a big dick. It's all about competition and very normal.

I remember back before affirmative action and politically correct conduct was the norm and you could pretty much say anything you wanted in mixed company.

This happened to me. I was 24 years old, in engineering, at work and talking to a man that was about 45 along with a woman who was about 40 years old. Some how the subject shifted to sex. The older guy looked down at me (I'm 5'5") and said to me "Instead of stabbing a woman to death, you just tickle them to death!". This really got a good laugh out of the woman and made me feel about 1" tall. That was 28 years ago and I still remember it like it happened yesterday.

I would consider this emotional stress. Only if I knew then what I know now! I may have been packing bigger meat than that guy but no real data was available in those days about cock sizes verses size of man. Thank god I found PE!

When a guy starts talking biff to me in front of a woman now (out of the work environment of course) I simply ask if he would like compare while the lady watches.

I've done this a number of times. It kicks the guy back on his heals and shuts him up real quick. The reaction of the woman has is she stiffles a laugh looks at me with a look that says (Hmmm, this guy could actually be packing a hammer!)
So far I haven't had any takers with this challange but would it would be very interesting to actually do a comparison of this sort.

Falcon

sleazydiesel
07-07-2005, 04:32 PM
man i feel your pain dude,i made the mistake of asking my new g/f how i compared to her ex :mad: BIG MISTAKE!!! don't ever ask that question. i think i'm scarred for life cause of that one. and yes he was much bigger

cdima
07-07-2005, 04:51 PM
But if you don't know how to use it, you can't get a woman satisfied. I was with a girl last night. I banged her for about half an hour. When I was done she kept on telling me how great I was (I didn't ask once) and how amazing I made her feel. Apparently only 2 people have ever made her cum during sex, me included. Well Im only BPEL 6.5'' and EG 5.25''... Compared to some other people, thats nothing. But I still made her feel the way she needed to feel. So don't worry if you have a size youre not happy with because:

1) Girls can be pleased with any size dick (or tongue ;) )

and

2) You're PEing, which means eventually you'll be where you want to be.

On a side note, my current girlfriend has been with a guy that has had a bigger dick than me. (I asked her) And I too felt disappointed, but then I realized I shouldn't because I will be where I want to be eventually and she is with me right now. NOT him. :D

I don't think depression is a good thing mainly because it takes your focus off what is really important in your life. So don't get so depressed, stay on track, keep your goals in mind and you'll be where you want to be.

ChronDick
07-08-2005, 12:04 AM
Yeah, i've learned over time not to bring up ex-lovers, it really just shows insecurity. And an even bigger tip, never bring up YOUR ex-lovers, and if they ask, even if you have to lie, tell them they are the best. Because women take that shit to heart and if you still want to have great sex with the person your with, it should be concentrated on the connection between you two, no one else. (unless its about blowjobs, for some reason girls like to think they can 'out-blow' other women :) )

Chron

Sanatana
07-08-2005, 05:14 PM
I would like to mention that if you get depressed by watching porn to consider this. The porn industry normally gives bigger salaries to the women when compared to the men in the same industry. It's because most of the industry targets males.
There are many women in that industry with popular names but there are only a few males who have been able to be popular along with the women. ONLY a few. That industry has high standards for both sexes if you want to be a pornstar. So because of that high standard, many people, more males than females, are rejected. Only the best, i.e., the males have to be able to ejaculate on cue, keep an erection up even after ejaculating so the director can get another take, be good enough in bed so the female wouldn't have to fake and maybe ruin the scene, and be visually sexy.
Some guys think they are small because they've seen other dicks (in porno) and those are bigger than their own. They don't realize that male pornstars HAVE to be bigger to get paid.

I know this information wont help all of you. But nevertheless, we're here to help each other out.
I personally hate depression.

Need2nches
07-11-2005, 09:13 PM
very good thread.. im currently 5.9" and bout 4.5 girth... but im 6-4" tall so its like.. i almost feel inadequate... and like u all said its from the porn industry.. seeing dudes with massive tools skewering girls.. etc... that has hurt me as well and im sure a lot of males... so thats why im here.. reading this post is just awesome to know that a lot of ppl feel as i do.. and are all working at it like i am... my goal is 8X6... so... hopefully someday.. btw though... if you know how to treat a lady and make her feel right.. and know what shes into... you could have a 3 inch penis and satisfy her.. its all about what attitude u approach the situation and ways to turn her on emotionally cuz u know 90% or so of womens orgasms are all cuz of the ol emotional deal.

-chris

gangster
07-13-2005, 02:07 PM
why bother worrying about it man, you can get pussy with a big dick or a small dick because when you picking up chicks they get to know you, and so what if you fuck and she thinks your small and never wants to talk to you again? your better off with her leaving cuz a)you got a piece with no long term shit and b) she probably slutty hoe anyway.

Need2nches
07-13-2005, 02:10 PM
true but.. sometimes women could be fine.. and to tell you the truth if i was a chick my ideal man would have a bigger dick etc.. so i can see where they are coming from.. obviously i know i can pick up chicks.. with or without 8 inches in my pants.. but id rather have 8 inches u know.. its just a big confidence booster... i like having too much confidence.. and i feel this will help me out.. its also just a goal for me cuz im trying to better myself.

kowboi
07-13-2005, 04:59 PM
Dick size isn't important?

Then why are we here?

It is very important to us!

And to tell you the truth it is probably a lot more important to women than we think!

Average doesn't really matter! IMO. Saying I have an average size dick is like saying I make an average income! nothing to be ashamed of, but seriously who wants to be average!

I'm not trying to preach, but let's just admit that it's important and get on with our PE!!!

cdima
07-13-2005, 06:22 PM
Dick size isn't important?

Then why are we here?

It is very important to us!

And to tell you the truth it is probably a lot more important to women than we think!

Average doesn't really matter! IMO. Saying I have an average size dick is like saying I make an average income! nothing to be ashamed of, but seriously who wants to be average!

I'm not trying to preach, but let's just admit that it's important and get on with our PE!!!

AMEN TO THAT! I completely agree with you kowboi. Dick size does matter to us if we're here and Im like 99.999999% sure that it matters to women as well. And youre absolutely right, average is no good. No one wants to be average, but we all say its ok to be average because everyone is so average. We celebrate our mediocraty and we make up excuses that its ok to be average in our lives. I dont agree with that at all. People, especially women, know they don't want an average guy. They all want someone special, unique and different.

BIGDICKJ
07-13-2005, 08:02 PM
true but.. sometimes women could be fine.. and to tell you the truth if i was a chick my ideal man would have a bigger dick etc.. so i can see where they are coming from.. obviously i know i can pick up chicks.. with or without 8 inches in my pants.. but id rather have 8 inches u know.. its just a big confidence booster... i like having too much confidence.. and i feel this will help me out.. its also just a goal for me cuz im trying to better myself.


I AGREE I AGREE I AGREE.......

dmediana742
07-14-2005, 02:19 PM
ok,

Im new to this men network thing and still a little bit embarassed about talking about it. But i signed up to become a penis enlargment member to of course, have a bigger penis. I guess my first problem is tha i am still skeptical about this penis excercise thing (hoping to have not wasted my money). I have already known about the PC muscle exercise, but when i read about excercising my dick to become bigger, i thought to myself : "NO WAY" So here i am just now starting to go with the routine exercise program but please, anybody let me know that dis is for real. I also have the same problem about me having a small dick and just flat out shot down my confidence and self-esteem. I am a very out going person and when i party i get a decent amount of girls the same night. But when it comes down to it, going crazy with the girls in the club is as far as its going to get because when they want to get to know me more, i turn them down. So please, anybody, get back to me if this works, and if so, how long will it takes to get a monster cock???
:confused:

Smoky
07-14-2005, 02:43 PM
dmediana742, my friend - I would advise you to NEVER turn down pussy... unless she is ugly or fat or in some way unattractive. Yes, it does work but it aint a quick fix. This takes a LONG time. And it could be a year to add an inch or it could be half that time, but it does work. I've heard people and Doctors say that this can cause injuries and it CAN. Be careful, take your time - don't take more then you can handle. What are your measurements btw?

dmediana742
07-14-2005, 02:50 PM
Hi,

I didnt measure yet because i feel a little skeptic about everything. But i guess i feel better about hearing from other members dat it really works. Doing PE for a whole year just for an inch is a long time. I guess nothing comes easy. So doing the plan routine in the penis-health website the best method of routine, or is there a better one. And also does that ring of power really help? and if so, how fast will it take affect for the grown rate?

kowboi
07-14-2005, 06:21 PM
dude, chlilax.

questions are everywhere, answers are in here, just look for them.

we want to encourage you - trust me it does work, just look at our stats.

but you got to be committed. a year is a long time, but would you rather waste this year and still have a small dick next year, or spend the year working out and gaining an inch or maybe two, hell maybe even 3 (I don't know if that's possible, but who knows? just give it a try)

if you give it 30 minutes a day, 5 or 6 days a week, every blessed week, for a year, you will gain! trust it!

measure yourself immediately so you can see the gains. Most guys post once or twice never to be heard of again. They go away with the idea that we are ALL LIARS. Let me assure you that we aren't. I am a real person, who has paid money to be here. I don't regret it for a second.

If you measure yourself ACCURATELY you will stay motivated, because you will know you have gained!

wohoo19m
07-14-2005, 06:26 PM
Don't be in such a rush my friend. All things that are worth having take time. I can say by my time in the forums that most people gain about an inch in the first 2-3 months. 1-2 years you could have a 2 inch gain. Don't sweat about it too much. You just need to know that there are 3 types of girls: girls who come only from clitoral stimulation, only from penetration, I forget the 3rd one ( think it's the g-spot but not sure....), but the first 2 are more common. Clitoral being number one, and you don't need a huge dick to stimulate that. Get huge to make yourself happy first, if she doesn't like your current size, so what. If you stick to it, she'll wish she'll have stuck with you. Every mm you gain is size you didn't have before, doesn't have to be 1". Be happy knowing you can improve yourself.

Sambo
07-15-2005, 08:36 AM
Ok, so now I really see I am not the only one with a hangup. My experience is not the worst, from what I can see. I have never been the aggressive type with women. one, because I have a complex regarding my height: 5'3" which I cannot do anything about: two because of my small package, which I now know I can do something about.

Having said that, I will move on with my experiences: at work I had a supervisor (what a hottie!) who I frequently caught looking at my crotch trying to determine if I had anything under my pants. At a previous job, there was this rather cute black 20 sumthing year old co-worker ( I was about 40 at the time) that I had the hots for and frequently engaged in some sexually charged conversations with. Well, one day while she was on the phone with her back turned to me, I took her hand and placed it on my crotch, which she did not get upset over. But one day I was talking with this other fella, and without me bringing up the conversation of what I did, he told me she said I had a tiny pecker. What an embarrassment.

Well needless to say, I know where I want to be one day, but the big question is: WHEN???? This only a rhetorical question. But I just had to write and add my word of encouragement to the rest of the gents with low self esteem, let's concentrate on the things we have some control over, such as PEing, and try, as difficult as it may seem, to get over the things you can't, such as being vertically challenged.

Ok?

falcon
07-15-2005, 09:44 PM
Ok, so now I really see I am not the only one with a hangup. My experience is not the worst, from what I can see. I have never been the aggressive type with women. one, because I have a complex regarding my height: 5'3" which I cannot do anything about: two because of my small package, which I now know I can do something about.
Ok?

Good for you Sambo, take a different look at life. Seems I'm not the shortest guy on this forum (I'm 5'5") but it doesn't mean squat. Get the right attitude and the tallest of women will be attracted to you. They will beg for company and ask for your service.

With PE it will take time to get that bigger cock you have always wanted. It's not an easy road and it takes a lot of grit and determination.

From my experiences, a woman that goes out and spews her shit to everyone is not worthy of your attention.

Falcon

hope2grow
07-16-2005, 04:39 PM
You're damn right! I agree!


Reading this quote, and the one quoted by mindless is the boost i needed.

I have a similiar scenario, I am in love with my g/f and her with me, however she made a detremental comment about her X and myself that left me heartbroken and feeling alot less of a man. :(
Anyways I am real happy to hear the this exercise program really works!!

I also believe FIRMLY, that if you really want something, u work your funkin ass of to make yourself happy, THEN u tell the one(s) who critisized u to go Fuk themselves....hehehehehe :D :D

Thanks God for PE!!! :D

anubiserpent
09-25-2005, 08:43 PM
Whats goin on gentlemen? Just wanted to ask a question about diet. I am new to this whole deal but i wanna hit it hard and fast. I gave up smoking because it affects circulation which in turn can harm erections (so im told). Now my question is, can anyone tell me what type of foods would be good to eat to help produce a higher semen amount? Right now i cant afford to buy the pills for the "ropes" and other things. I also got pulled into that damn enzyte scam. Well, i guess i shouldnt call it a scam. I havent seen any results yet and ive been taking them for a month. Any body with any info or experience with those pills? :sm18 any news or info would be great guys.

o0o0odudeo0o0o
09-25-2005, 08:48 PM
food rich in zinc help in increasing sperm production, and you caould also try amino acids like l-lysine and l-arginine which help in sperm production as well

Dazzlingdaz3
09-25-2005, 09:42 PM
Hey Guys,
This is a very interesting thread, and one that I thought I would lend my "stiff shit story" to as well.

My emotional scarring about the size of my dick started at the the age of 15yo just as I was starting puberty. A group of my peers (already well into puberty) dacked me one cold night on a deserted oval. I was pubeless and shrivelled to the max due to the cold and the fear. I was instantly nicknamed "Jellybean" and the taunting and raucous laughter still echoes in my head as the story went through my highschool like wildfire and other kids I didnt even know, knew me by sight as Jellybean.
Well, with the hormones racing and the depression, I could never view myself as normal. It seemed that everybody from the locker room to the urinal had a much bigger dick than me. I left school that year, got a job and immersed myself in working for the next 6 years. I would not go out with the view to meeting chicks to get laid as all my mates were doing. I became socially reclusive. At the age of 20yo , I decided to conquer my fear, I had a new car ,a good paying job ( probably in a better position than most at my age with their big dicks back then LOL ) and it was time to go out and get regularly laid! I met a girl that very night, courted her for 3 months before gettting into her pants. Had the best sex ever on and off for the next 7 years, fell in love with it, finally married it, she pumped 2 kids outta me, the sex dried up and it all ended in Divorce with her taking my house and pretty much everything I owned in the process 3 years ago. And guess what my first reaction was when things startted to turn to shit? I wasnt satisfying her with my small "Jellybean" dick. She knew my hangup and to her credit, never got spiteful to play on it when things got bitter. In the end, I realised that it was not me, it was her own phsycotic crap that did not allow her to perfom normally in a relationship.

I am still reeling from my loss, both material and emotional, but the biggest and worst loss from the experience was my confidence. Even today, I find it difficult to chat up women. My outlook on them has turned to shit. I know that I now have a larger than average dick, thanks to PE. but it is still difficult for me to see it in the mirror. It is a sickness akin to Anorexia, where you view yourself as totally obese, when you are in fact,a walking skeleton. I know for a fact ,that I satisfied my ex wife sexually. I also know that the handful of short term r/ships I have had since, have all had them coming back for more. But my ideals and expectations, both for myself and the woman of my dreams are so high, that I dont know that I'll ever find miss right. So I continue to enlarge my dick as the trade off . Who am I doing it for? ME! And slowly but surely, the scarring is healing ;)

Thanks for indulging me

Daz

cure1973
09-28-2005, 03:04 PM
Interesting thread! I too (like everyone else here) am not happy with my size, but we're all here to change that. I can't say that before PE I ever had a complaint from a woman - usually compliments, about penis size, or bed technique etc. My wife of ten years, her previous boyfriend (who got dumped to be with me) apparently had such an enormous cock it wouldn't go all the way in!! Now obviously I did have a little jealousy (LOL!!!) but what the fuck - the guy was a moron anyway!! My biggest fear I remember from school was being circumcised. Don't know why I ever worried about this but I hid my member from public view the very best I could. I can't say I really worried about my size either it just seems to be something thats started to eat at me during the last few years. Strange I know but heres to bigger things to come!!!
Cure :D

NaughtyGeorge
09-30-2005, 05:06 AM
Hey all,
I have an emotional and psychological problem due to size. I'd like to hear your stories as well to see if I am the only one out there feeling this way. Here goes.
I'm 25 years old and have grown up watching porn like all of us and I guess from a very young age it was deeply imlanted in my psyche that I would grow up to be hung like a horse like the guys in the porn flicks. Time went by and now I'm 25 and only about 5.75 hard and much smaller when not erect. I was very disappointed and hurt and still am to be honest. I have such a HUGE hang up regarding my size that when I go out I don't approach girls because I'm afraid something WILL happen and I will have to have sex but the girl will be disappointed if she sees me naked, and also I think that she has been with guys that are much bigger and that she won't feel anything by me being inside of her. Here is a sick story to see how much this affected me growning. I'm only 5'7 but I was a GREAT basketball player growing up and had potential to possibly go pro, but the biggest fear that held me back was the fact that I would be sharing a locker room with guys that are 6'5 and hung like horses and I could just picture myself being the laughing stock of the locker room not to mention the media. Isn't that SICK? Isn't it sick how we are conditioned from a young age? The sad thing is it STILL hurts me a lot... My girlfriend for three years is friends with her exboyfriend, who she dumped to be with me, and she told me that he had avery big dick and this KILLS ME!!! I have even told her about my hangup... I just can't seem to shake this HUGE insecurity...What do I do??? What did you do?
Seriously, I need to know...Any and all comments would be GREATLY appreciated.
Oh, here is the funny thing, I have never had anything but complaments from girls I've been with, and I allow my insecurity to take me back to those moments and invalidate them thinking that they were lying to me... help please!!!

MadmanAndMystic


All I can say is that you are taking the right step by joining penishealth and this community. Stick to it this really works I'm talking from experience I felt the same way when I was barely 6 inches..now I'm 7.3 and growing you can do it too!

Denver
10-04-2005, 02:24 AM
I just thought i would add my two cents to this disscussion. You see guys this is my story of defeat and failure. I am a 19 year old guy who got to know that his dick was small when i was around 17. I had no idea before that. How do i know i was in the loo and taking piss when my friend walked in saw it and told me i have a small one you may or may not be able to relate to that. Anyways from that point on i have had a major Inferiority complex.I was downfallen and beaten down. I couldnt talk to girls like other guys do because of my prob. Then this year i found this girl who i really liked so i got to know her and all that and she liked me to. Then came the part of asking her out i just couldnt bring myself to because i knew i would have to show her my little pecker and that she would be dissapointed or even worse laugh at it. She moved on with her life and left me to kick my self with Inferiority complex. I havent really talked to girls after that ive become a recluse again. I started PE about four months ago gained about .25 inches in girth but nothing in girth not really satisfied with it. My current measurements are
BPEL 6.5 NBEL 5.5( i have a weight problem and it steals 1/2 inch or so of my penis)
EG 5.25
FL 3.2
BPFL 4
I am posting for the first time here and am sorry if the thing is very long(unlike my penis) and boring but i have a great fear that a woman will look down thier and start laughing and my weight problem doesnt help either.My current goal is 6.5 lenght NBPEL but am very discouraged by the no gains in that department. I was discouraged for about a month and stopped but have starfted over again do you think i may be able to get an 1/2-3/4 inch in about a 3 months. I hate feeling depressed and inferior to everyone else i want to be happy and be able to have some fun. I hope i havnt wasted your time with my bantering.just thought id add something to this thread. Thanks

Dazzlingdaz3
10-04-2005, 03:06 AM
You fall into the average bracket along with the rest of us mate. A bit larger in girth than some ,so you have the edge there. You have come to the right place to make a change and all you need to do now is gain the dedication and commitment to make it work for you, as it has me.

Good luck mate and keep us posted :sm25

Cheers
Daz

Avg_joe
10-04-2005, 07:47 AM
Hey! who doesnt feel like they dont have enough?? that is why we are here! My wife of ten years has never said anything but complimentary about my little man.( then 4.5 EG, by about 6.5 EL ) Bone pressed. Recently while partying with one of her girlfriends I heard about an experience she had when about 18 yrs. old. LONG before she met me.
To hear her describe it the thing was ( I'm guessing from hand gestures here).......
About 8.5 EG by 10 EL !!!! :sm35 In some sick way it fascinated me that she could have taken the thing!! I asked her for more details a few days later, when she told me what it was like . She said that it was very uncomfortable and she was a little scared, but that she had " gotten herself into it " and continued anyway. And that it only happened once.
That got me to start evaluating myself, NOT comparing . But thinking I could hopefully do somehting to improve my self-image. That is what started me down the road to PE.
I ordered the PSP and do my PE once daily four on , three off. Results ?? YES !!!!
After 5 weeks I am now measuring .... 5 1/4 EG by 7.0 EL . And she has noticed !!!
But I am doing this for ME.

Nobiggy
10-04-2005, 01:45 PM
NOT the right thing to, but bustin' on someone isn't right either. I would kick their ass for them, if they looked at me wrong there would be a scrap, didn't always win the fight but I did get their undivided attention and respect. I'm not all that small but if you are smaller than the pickers, well that was enough for them to start their shit. I was the youngest and the smallest in the neighborhood so I learned fast If you take belittlement then you will get all the more. Who else has had to deal with that? I hope nobody here has had to. I am not sorry for messing up their day for them, but I am sorry that it came down it for those reasons. I'm really not a bad person I just don't care for idiots with big mouths and no brains.

IT'S NOT THE SIZE OF THE WAVE, IT'S THE MOTION OF THE OCEAN :sm23

Dennis

Shameless
10-05-2005, 11:54 AM
Hey all,
I have an emotional and psychological problem due to size. I'd like to hear your stories as well to see if I am the only one out there feeling this way. Here goes.
I'm 25 years old and have grown up watching porn like all of us and I guess from a very young age it was deeply imlanted in my psyche that I would grow up to be hung like a horse like the guys in the porn flicks. Time went by and now I'm 25 and only about 5.75 hard and much smaller when not erect. I was very disappointed and hurt and still am to be honest. I have such a HUGE hang up regarding my size that when I go out I don't approach girls because I'm afraid something WILL happen and I will have to have sex but the girl will be disappointed if she sees me naked, and also I think that she has been with guys that are much bigger and that she won't feel anything by me being inside of her. Here is a sick story to see how much this affected me growning. I'm only 5'7 but I was a GREAT basketball player growing up and had potential to possibly go pro, but the biggest fear that held me back was the fact that I would be sharing a locker room with guys that are 6'5 and hung like horses and I could just picture myself being the laughing stock of the locker room not to mention the media. Isn't that SICK? Isn't it sick how we are conditioned from a young age? The sad thing is it STILL hurts me a lot... My girlfriend for three years is friends with her exboyfriend, who she dumped to be with me, and she told me that he had avery big dick and this KILLS ME!!! I have even told her about my hangup... I just can't seem to shake this HUGE insecurity...What do I do??? What did you do?
Seriously, I need to know...Any and all comments would be GREATLY appreciated.
Oh, here is the funny thing, I have never had anything but complaments from girls I've been with, and I allow my insecurity to take me back to those moments and invalidate them thinking that they were lying to me... help please!!!

MadmanAndMystic


Hey Madman,
Like everyone else here I too have those thoughts from time to time although I'm married and my lovely wife just loves my cock ( and she's not lying). Let me tell ya something that nobody has yet said about this matter:
Yes indeed you do need some length to your cock at least 6in but 5in can do a fine job too, and it needs to be fat,BUT... It's about how you use it!! There are so many ways to please a woman, from forplay to _uckin! You have to learn about the woman's body and her pleasure spots! When you do and she is coming multible times while making love to her she wont even notice that you even have a cock let alone a small one. Read, Read ,Read about sexual positions, Breasts, The Clit, The G-Spot, her Neck ect... and you'll be the lover she NEVER had!
My wife and I are EX-Swingers and I have seen a few of our close friends in action, Well I learned this with the 4 couples we have swinged with, My cock @5 1/8 in. is'nt realy small compared to them,and the one friend who has a 10in cock could'nt _uck his way out of a wet paper bag!!! LOL! The lovely ladies that we have been with love to get with me cause they enjoy the way I move and operate my tool. I could'nt tell you how many times I would still be going at it with the other guy's wife (AND MINE)and he'd be done and laying around with a limp dick. Take the time to find out about the woman's body and I personally promise you wont be disappointed and neither will she.
Good Luck to ya Madman, and let me know how ya doin sometime.
Shameless

flinnino
10-12-2005, 10:41 AM
what is a pe and how can i get stated with it.
i have a serious lack in that department and am 31 years old with a size that reminds me of my 12 year old cousine. i really want to get this thing up. it gives me serious complex to the extend that when am with a lady it refuses to come erect.
plz explain to me.

Shameless
10-12-2005, 11:42 AM
Hey Flinnino,
PE stands for Penis Enlargement. Now about your other question of "Gettin It Up". You've got to learn to relax when you are with a lady. I know it's hard to do when you think your cock is too little, How long are you anyways? I use to have the problem of not being able to get hard when I got with a new girl because I was getting too excited and nervous about doing her good. When my wife and I were swinging it was even harder on me, but... when I seen how big other guys were and how poorly they _ucked my confidence level began to raise quite a bit. Then I becan to explore the womens bodies and learn where to touch and lick that pleased them the most. I also started focusing on my staying power so that I could last longer. Kegal excercise is the way to do that, Thats the muscle you squeeze when you stop your pee.Also try the Pro-Solotion pills they will increase the blood flow to your penis. And check out the other excercise's here on strecthing and girth.
Dont forget to RELAX!! The Lady has to do her part too, meaning... She has to stimulate you make you feel desired. Talking is a great thing to do with your lover. Dont forget to use that tounge too Man!! Hope this helps.
Keep the faith,
Shameless

ohbilly
10-13-2005, 08:27 PM
Hey I'm in the same boat as everyone. My problem is I can get girls and happen to have hooked one right now that most guys would die to get. Unfortunately, I have serious penis issues because I know I am too small. The girl wants to have sex and I am putting it off for as long as I can so the exercises can kick in--which I believe they are, slowly but surely. I know I am going to have to do it sometime lest I lose her and kick myself for life like I have over a few other girls in my past. The problem is I'm into bodybuilding and have been called cute or attractive. Thus, I can get them but can't keep them because of my complex. It's good to know I'm not alone and it's good to know I'm not the only small one out in the world. I just wish my penis would grow and that she wasn't so sexually experienced; the girl is beyond sexually experienced and primed.

I'll keep you guys updated on the PE situation and girl situation.

Butazi
10-13-2005, 09:08 PM
I got my 1st and only gf over a year and a half ago. But about the 2nd or 3rd month we were getting to that "intimate" stage (but not sex for awhile after). But instead of being afraid and trying to not take off my clothes, I remember watching an episode of Seinfeld with George Constanza doing the opposite of what he usually does and it worked for him. I figure, well...instead of being afraid I'm just gonna say it. I said "Before we do anything, I'm gonna tell you, I'm not big and probably below average in length, heck...i'll look like a midget compared to those pornos". She just laughed and smiled. The we did it a couple of months later, and no complaints?!?!?! A big boost in confidence for me.

I really don't know what I'm trying to say, but my guess is, when the time comes, say it up front and don't make it a surprise to her? Hmm...I really dont know...something is supposed to be learned here. But I still would like to get a bigger wang for her (even though she likes it the way it is) and for me (what man doesn't want to add a couple of inches)

flinnino
10-17-2005, 06:18 AM
hi guys
please can someone be kind enough to explain some of thiese excercies to me expercially the one of keeting my penis to be biggger,and also the one of staying power. how dose it work,plz i dont have a credit card so i can not place an order for the tapes or pills i just need an assistance please.
how do i make my penis bibber and how can i work on my staying power? and if possible please give me any free web site were this excerises are taught. thanks u very much if u care enoughto help a fellow in dire need .

Neongene
10-17-2005, 08:38 AM
I know what all you guys are talking about, I would measure my dick against years of watching porn and this just crushed my perception about myself. During college I never went out on a date or had sex much. Sometimes I managed to get some oral sex but we never went all the way cuase I was afriad my dick would not be up to snuff. I'm starting to see the errors of my ways. I try to watch less porn, but I do love the stuff.

You'll find that on this forum we are all very honest, and want to see each other acheive gains.

ohbilly
10-17-2005, 07:32 PM
Well, we had sex..sorta. Basically, I got with the girl and she looked at my penis and just went down on it. Most of my fears and concerns have been eliminated. Now I only want to do PE just because I want to enhance my overall appearance--thus helping myself.

Let all this worry go about your dicks and find a girl for yourselves. I'm not huge but she is still hanging around talking about sex and when we can go at it. Fuck, I do still have slight worries but we all have to get over our insecurities one step at a time. The best thing is I have noticed some improvements over the few rest days I took. My flaccid penis looks lnoger and meatier, and my erections look a bit longer and thicker, not too mention the head has grown a bit. I see only good things ahead over the next few years of PE.

Dazzlingdaz3
10-17-2005, 08:06 PM
Let all this worry go about your dicks and find a girl for yourselves. I'm not huge but she is still hanging around talking about sex and when we can go at it. Fuck, I do still have slight worries but we all have to get over our insecurities one step at a time. The best thing is I have noticed some improvements over the few rest days I took. My flaccid penis looks lnoger and meatier, and my erections look a bit longer and thicker, not too mention the head has grown a bit. I see only good things ahead over the next few years of PE.

The hardest thing to do is get over personal insecurities, I know this first hand! :) Already, your confidence is showing in your latest post and you have your future to look forward to! You're quite right, there are only good things ahead for you with your newfound confidence and increaing dick size!

All the best man!

Cheers
Daz

turtle
10-17-2005, 08:48 PM
You know I completely agree with Daz, personal insecurity, that's it. When I was younger, I had a number of ladies with my 5.5 incher, was I insecure, hell no! I was having fun getting my rocks off. I was always good at the other things so I can honestly say that no woman ever left my bed without an orgasim. Guys get your brain in shape.
There are a number of ways to satisfy a woman, the only trick is to find the right method for the one that you are with. I must admit that I do like the fact that I finally have a dick that is reasonably good sized, but I never had a woman complain about my bedroom performance, at least to my face. I don't know, I just think the psychology of all of this has gotten a touch out of control.
turtle

Dazzlingdaz3
10-17-2005, 09:39 PM
I don't know, I just think the psychology of all of this has gotten a touch out of control.
turtle

:D I agree Turtle, but only now that my personal self confidence is restored by having a bigger dick!!!! LOL

Cheers
Daz

JoeyNess
10-23-2005, 12:10 AM
One of the reasons us men focus on our dicks so much is we all try to make other men think their dick's are smaller than ours. We continually say shit to show we have a big dick. It's all about competition and very normal.

I remember back before affirmative action and politically correct conduct was the norm and you could pretty much say anything you wanted in mixed company.

This happened to me. I was 24 years old, in engineering, at work and talking to a man that was about 45 along with a woman who was about 40 years old. Some how the subject shifted to sex. The older guy looked down at me (I'm 5'5") and said to me "Instead of stabbing a woman to death, you just tickle them to death!". This really got a good laugh out of the woman and made me feel about 1" tall. That was 28 years ago and I still remember it like it happened yesterday.

I would consider this emotional stress. Only if I knew then what I know now! I may have been packing bigger meat than that guy but no real data was available in those days about cock sizes verses size of man. Thank god I found PE!

When a guy starts talking biff to me in front of a woman now (out of the work environment of course) I simply ask if he would like compare while the lady watches.

I've done this a number of times. It kicks the guy back on his heals and shuts him up real quick. The reaction of the woman has is she stiffles a laugh looks at me with a look that says (Hmmm, this guy could actually be packing a hammer!)
So far I haven't had any takers with this challange but would it would be very interesting to actually do a comparison of this sort.

Falcondam!! :sm16 these experiences are really interesting its always good to hear a great life experience

MetalHead
12-25-2005, 07:11 PM
man i feel your pain dude,i made the mistake of asking my new g/f how i compared to her ex :mad: BIG MISTAKE!!! don't ever ask that question. i think i'm scarred for life cause of that one. and yes he was much bigger

yes,i'd be jelous...and pissed

xyz_xiyi
12-26-2005, 02:16 PM
Hey all,
I have an emotional and psychological problem due to size. I'd like to hear your stories as well to see if I am the only one out there feeling this way. Here goes.
I'm 25 years old and have grown up watching porn like all of us and I guess from a very young age it was deeply imlanted in my psyche that I would grow up to be hung like a horse like the guys in the porn flicks. Time went by and now I'm 25 and only about 5.75 hard and much smaller when not erect. I was very disappointed and hurt and still am to be honest. I have such a HUGE hang up regarding my size that when I go out I don't approach girls because I'm afraid something WILL happen and I will have to have sex but the girl will be disappointed if she sees me naked, and also I think that she has been with guys that are much bigger and that she won't feel anything by me being inside of her. Here is a sick story to see how much this affected me growning. I'm only 5'7 but I was a GREAT basketball player growing up and had potential to possibly go pro, but the biggest fear that held me back was the fact that I would be sharing a locker room with guys that are 6'5 and hung like horses and I could just picture myself being the laughing stock of the locker room not to mention the media. Isn't that SICK? Isn't it sick how we are conditioned from a young age? The sad thing is it STILL hurts me a lot... My girlfriend for three years is friends with her exboyfriend, who she dumped to be with me, and she told me that he had avery big dick and this KILLS ME!!! I have even told her about my hangup... I just can't seem to shake this HUGE insecurity...What do I do??? What did you do?
Seriously, I need to know...Any and all comments would be GREATLY appreciated.
Oh, here is the funny thing, I have never had anything but complaments from girls I've been with, and I allow my insecurity to take me back to those moments and invalidate them thinking that they were lying to me... help please!!!

MadmanAndMystic

Don't worry about it. I know how you feel because I have small penis too. But look in the bright side, there are people without legs and arms. Like the children in ****.

USAirForce
12-26-2005, 02:40 PM
Heres some advice...
WHO CARES? You saw all those pornos right? You saw how many different girls are in porn? Woman are sluts, liars, and/or fuckin stupid. I personally have no trust for any mamal that can bleed continually for 8 days and still live. Anyway, on a more serious note, man just go out and meet some chicks. There are something like 400 million people in the world. If a girl says you have a small cock then she is a whore anyway. Trust me, I know. I have 6.5in cock, and thats not HUGE but its not small. I had a girl tell me I had a small dick before, and I laughed at her. She felt stupid and said what!? I was like you think I have a small dick, who are you to judge me? Look at yourself! Women are very self concious, so stop worrying about it. Some guys have a 2 in peins. When you meet a woman they dont think about your dick. Women arent like men, they dont think about sex every 2 seconds. And in the event you do end up having sex (which you sound like you think you are some kinda stud because you think any girl you talk to will want to jump into bed with you) then go for it. Whats the difference. Be selfish. If she makes the decision to have sex with you, she wont change it after she sees you naked. The pussy is very sensitive, you can stick a tic tac in a woman and she will "feel" it. Get some confidence man. Your dick size isnt everything. Affirmations will help you too. When you get worried, change your thought process by saying to yourself "I AM A WORTHWHILE PERSON" or anything else. Confidence is everything, and althought size is important, the confidence you have and the sex you give her is more important. If I had a 4 in cock, but I screwed a woman for 2 hours she would orgasm multiple times via clit orgasm. Woman orgasm either via vagina, or clut stimulation. Overall, you need a subconcious confidence overhall. Look into audiobooks and tapes about success and confidence.

xyz_xiyi
12-26-2005, 02:47 PM
good post dude, but with the women thing. I don't think that they are sluts. I think that Women are good people to trust.

biggerandbetter
12-27-2005, 12:48 AM
I had a girl tell me I had a small dick before, and I laughed at her. She felt stupid and said what!? I was like you think I have a small dick, who are you to judge me? Look at yourself!

Man, that's harsh!

madmanandmystic, think of it this way. WHAT good will worrying do for you? absolutely zilch. I have a 5 x 4.7 inch and it works for my gf, u just need to put in the extra effort with foreplay. You will someday realise that chicks that dont want a man cos his dick isnt "big enough" are whores.

Don't worry about ur dick size, nothing can be achieved from it. What you can do however, is invest some time in a PE program, you have nothing to lose, but a lot to gain ;)

USAirForce
12-27-2005, 05:57 AM
Ill tell you what, it is not harsh. It is reality. If you are so embarresed about having a 5 inch cock, then look at pictures of people with small cocks on the internet. Dont keep looking at the elephant dicks you see in pornos. You might be jealous if you went to a BIG and TALL store because everyone in there was taller than you right? Well then leave! In the real world yuou dont see to many 6.5 foot people, but in a big and tall store you do! Its the same as a porn site. Yes, pornos have 12in cocks banging girls till orgasm, but in the real world not many people have elephant dicks. Stop being insecure, and do what I said about the audio books. They will help.
My reccomendation: Brian Tracy - The Science Of Self COnfidence
Its good, and tells you how to be confident in things yoy do, which is how you should be confident. People who bragg about how tall, tanned, big feet, big dick, skin color, eye color, are all fucking morons. What matters if your brain, and what you KNOW. I know a few people who are 6 and a half feet tall. Okay, they can bragg all day about how tall they are, but they are morons. No brain, they will work at KMart there entire lives. I would rather have great success in life, be happy in my marriage, great children, ( i am not married or have children ... this is an example) etc... than just have a physical trait that I brag about all day long. If your woman woulkd rather have a guy with a big cock, thats her curse not yours. Your body is the only one your getting this lifetime, and it is the best tool youll ever have. DO NOT BE EMBARRESED OF IT. If everyone in the world only had ONE tool, would you be embarresed of your HAMMER when someone else has a screwdriver? NO, because they are completely different tools with different uses. You should look at your body, your self, and your life the same way. Someone who has a big cock, great thats wonderful. Find positive traits about yourself.

Over and Out :rolleyes:

xyz_xiyi
12-27-2005, 03:37 PM
Good post but the reason we are actually here and the reason of this forum is to help us have bigger penises and help eachother on Men related issues.

oliverwilliams
01-13-2006, 03:31 AM
message for madmanandmystic from a stranger, im saying this with best intentions in mind. all emotional pain that you speak of is directly related to the individuals relationship with self. the best techniques for overcoming this completley is EFT standing for EMOTIONAL FREEDOM TECHNIQUES look it up, if you implicate these methods you can completely change your life and future. its not about who or what you are that matters its of course your opinion about who or what. And on a high note knowing what we all know here "the best bodys are built not born"

jrwolfman
01-14-2006, 11:44 AM
Not sure if it matters, but I thought I would add a few comments,

The first time I started thinking I was inadequate in dick size was when I heard an ex-girlfriend talk to her friend about how she was with a new guy, and is was so great, because he had the biggest dick she had ever been with. She was talking like it was the best thing in the world. Now, she didn’t know I was in hearing distance, but man, that stuck with me and left a huge mark.

I was 26, and up until that time. I thought I was kind of large (I had about a 6.25 in length, and maybe about 4.75 girth). Now, that was about average I guess. But, after hearing what she said, I started trying anything and everything to get bigger, or even just look bigger. I was all messed up.

I tried Pumps, weights, pills, but even though I would see a bit of a difference, it would go away within a day or 2. I felt hopeless. I pushed women away, because I didn’t want to have them see how small my dick was (even though it really wasn’t). My friends started thinking I was gay because I would turn down hot chicks. And finally I got together with this cute girl (I think it had been about 6 months later), and she never said anything about my dick size. So, I just did my thing, but I was still very nervous, and when I finally stuck it in..... I CAME RIGHT AWAY!!! Man.... now I suffer from premature ejaculation, and I have a small dick!!!! LOL

So then, I really didn’t want to have sex with any women. I was so afraid, now I was worrying about how small my dick was, and even if the woman I was with didn’t think it was small, it wouldn’t matter, because I can't last more then 2 seconds inside her anyway.

I wasn’t with anyone until I was 30 years old!! Almost 4 flippin years later! All because of one comment an ex-girlfriend made to a friend. Now I’m married (to the same woman I was with when I was 30), I'm 33, I still want a bigger dick, even though I am more than adequate, and I still suffer form pre-mature ejaculation. Anytime I tell my wife I want a bigger dick, she says "NO WAY!!! Your too big for me now." I am only 6.5 inches NBP, and not that thick. My wife is 2 inches taller then me at 6 foot. So she is a bigger woman (I don’t mean fat. She is very skinny), and 6.5 inches is too much for her!!!!!!

My point to all this rambling is.... Even though I still want a bigger dick; 99.5% of women, as long as you are not SUPPER SMALL and they can still feel you while your inside them, they want you to last, or at the very least, be real good at foreplay. Size is usually the last thing they are thinking about.... and to be honest... If I had to choose between size and being able to please the woman I am with... I would choose the later in a second. And I know my wife would choose the later for me as well.

So, keep up your exercises, and don’t give up, but make sure you try to be better in bed, not just bigger, because I guarantee it’s more important.

Sorry for making this so long =)

jr

KRATOS
02-15-2006, 08:37 PM
You have just described my feelings to a tee. My girlfriend and I often get into arguments about this subject. When we first started dating she asked me one time if I had a big dick. I was putting on an air of confidence but inside I felt like a total loser because of my dick. Women can be so cold and selfish about this issue. It is so frustrating that something that is out of our control at birth can have such a huge effect on our lives. My girlfriend tries to tell me I'm crazy to think that penis size is so important, but then why was she so concerned about it to ask me about it in the begining? She also told me that every guy she has ever been with in her life was hung. She loves me for who I am but I feel so shitty when I think that another man with my personality could make her even happier just because of this one thing. I always point out to her about jokes made on TV about size and just how many references there are to size in just a couple of hours of television. Godzilla's slogan was SIZE DOES MATTER. With all of these references to size and all of the jokes about size out there you would have to be in denial or just stupid to think that women don't get more sexual pleasure from a man who is packing. I asked my girl " If ther was a man just like me with the same past and same histoy as me with the same brain but had an eight inch dick who would you chose?" This bitch told me that she would pick me as I am now with a smaller dick. I take that as an insult to my intelligence. As sad as it makes alot of us feel, women do get alot more intensity and pleasure from guys who have more size. That's why I'm here I'm hoping to find some way to save myself from this misery. I never go even one day, or even a half a day without thinking about my penis size. Your not alone. Hopefully this is the answer. I don't need to be john holmes I just want to be big enough to not have to feel uncomfortible with the thought of revealing myself to a woman. That is all I want.

kdogg101
02-15-2006, 11:08 PM
Has your gf seriously been around? If she only values that part of the man and not emotions then's she's not worth being with to tell you the truth. I say work hard on PE and don't give a fuck, what your gf is saying. Every guy can't be hung as 8+ is 1% of the world, so I believe she's feeding you shit and maybe getting a good kick out of your squirming. Again this is just my opinion and to be taken with a grain of salt

You have just described my feelings to a tee. My girlfriend and I often get into arguments about this subject. When we first started dating she asked me one time if I had a big dick. I was putting on an air of confidence but inside I felt like a total loser because of my dick. Women can be so cold and selfish about this issue. It is so frustrating that something that is out of our control at birth can have such a huge effect on our lives. My girlfriend tries to tell me I'm crazy to think that penis size is so important, but then why was she so concerned about it to ask me about it in the begining? She also told me that every guy she has ever been with in her life was hung. She loves me for who I am but I feel so shitty when I think that another man with my personality could make her even happier just because of this one thing. I always point out to her about jokes made on TV about size and just how many references there are to size in just a couple of hours of television. Godzilla's slogan was SIZE DOES MATTER. With all of these references to size and all of the jokes about size out there you would have to be in denial or just stupid to think that women don't get more sexual pleasure from a man who is packing. I asked my girl " If ther was a man just like me with the same past and same histoy as me with the same brain but had an eight inch dick who would you chose?" This bitch told me that she would pick me as I am now with a smaller dick. I take that as an insult to my intelligence. As sad as it makes alot of us feel, women do get alot more intensity and pleasure from guys who have more size. That's why I'm here I'm hoping to find some way to save myself from this misery. I never go even one day, or even a half a day without thinking about my penis size. Your not alone. Hopefully this is the answer. I don't need to be john holmes I just want to be big enough to not have to feel uncomfortible with the thought of revealing myself to a woman. That is all I want.

jrwolfman
02-16-2006, 07:32 AM
Good post kdogg101.... Also remember, most women don't realy know what a 8 inch dick looks like. I mean, unless she pulls out a ruler while your hard (wich probably isn't going to happen) then she is probably clueless as to what an 8 inch dick is like.

I have had at least 3 girls, tell me (when they saw my dick), "Do you know how big you are? 7? 8 inches?" I usualy laugh, cuz at that time I was just about average size, I think 6 1/8 inches.

The point is, that fact that she told you that she would pick you over the other guy, tells you she cares about you and your feelings. And, remember, women say stupid thing somtimes without thinking. We men perfected that, so I would cut her a little slack. Like kdogg101 said, " 8+ is 1% of the world". So, I think its safe to say that she may have been with a guy or two that were bigger then you, but in most cases, that will happen.

Just keep working on your NPE, and like I have said before, "If your better in bed, and she can feel it, she will never want another man anyway." I know this for a fact!

I have lost at least 2 women, not because I had a small dick, but because they could last long in bed, and they knew how to use thier tool.... I wish there were more sites that would teach me how to be good in bed, cuz even though I am not happy with my size, I would take "being the best in bed" over "having an 8 inch dick" anyday. Afterall, what do you think she would say, after she got over the shock of seeing that monster, but then you stick it in her, and cum within the first 30 seconds? That big dick did you no good, and I'm sure she would gladly go back to a guy that could last longer at that point.

Sorry for so much writing.. lol

JR

Skeeter
05-12-2006, 03:34 PM
I wanna throw my little story in as well real quick. when i was about 16 i measured and i was about 5.9 and 4.8 girth. I measured about a year ago and found i had a 5 inch dick that barely hit 4.5 in girth. Wether i measured wrong consistantly back in highschool or what.. i don't know but that was a major ego buster. All that time i thought i was packing 6+ and fairly thick... that killed me. My standards were "6 is minimal for good size" now i just chopped an inch off...ever since then i've been waaay more self conscious about it. But the one thing that saved me (aside from this site) was the fact that i could change it. it's something you can change the reality of. You can do whatever you want. it's like when you're dreaming (lucid dreaming) and you feel like you're God b/c you can do/say anything you want to make you happy and not only do you get away with it.. it works. This is real life and you can still do it. I'm taking the focus i had on keeping it hidden and putting it on pe-ing so one day in the not so far away future, my pe graduation day i'm going to show everyone my prize. Eveyone on here has felt some type of innadequacy, i even have a friend that feels inadequate b/c his dick is around 8 and it's getting hard for him to give to a girl right without poking too hard..see? now he's got a lot of technique to work on. Someone already hit on the key though... broke sluts have seen foot longs and nothing is as good after b/c of how furiously they stab themselves with it. Those girls are dirty, tacky and most likely don't have much of a soul left b/c of a whole assload of hidden problems that provokes them to look for "daddy" sized dicks. sweeter girls are tighter...period.

NiZ
05-13-2006, 02:28 AM
im right there with you man... i had the opportunity to have sex with 5 different girls this school year, being my first in college and u know how many i took? ZERO. you know why? cause i figured they would say somethin and id jsut be embarassed my BPEL on a GOOD Day is 6.5 and EG is 5 mid shaft and i hang out with a bunch of black guys who are hung like horses lol soo im workin on fixin my problem wit hthis PE but luckly i have an old lady back home who loves me for who i am and wants nothing bigger...but hopefully she wont be gettin what she wants ina a few month if u get my drift..:sm24

b21wayne
05-13-2006, 09:55 PM
I have felt so inferior related to size it is hard to pinpoint a trigger, but they are like what many other guys mentioned. Watching porn, and thinking I had to make women moan like crazy to be doing anything. Growing up in a family of guys hung like horses, flacid bigger then I am erect (or was). Being over 6'6, but not being comprable in size other places. I fugured to match my height I had to be at least 8 ins. erect, or 9. Seeing the reaction of girls in High School, when this guy that was huge, pulled his penis right out and showed them. I know he had to have been 10 erect, and they would smile and almost lick their lips. These factors, and many more, have kept me fixated on what I have always seen as a major shortcoming. I think if it wasn't that it would have been something else though, because I think it filled some type of need to feel "less then", for me.
I have a friend that asked me one time if I knew if Abe Lincoln, or Winston Churchill, were really big. I said ofcourse it didn't. Then he asked if I thought they were great men, in society's estimation. Again, I answered in the affirmative. The clincher came next. He asked if it would have made a difference if they had a small penis. In the logical, rational part of my mind, it didn't. The problem is my lifelong feellings of insecurity related to the size of my penis have nothing to do with logic. Like others mentioned, I was always average size, (before surgery, and such), so feeling inferior due to being small makes no sense at all. These things that are sensible though never seemed to make a difference.
Being in the same boat with all the others in here though, helps me not feel so small, in more ways then one. In my case, I always felt that if I were in a group of ten other guys,I was the only one who would have had a small penis. But others show me there is HOPE:sm38

narukami
05-14-2006, 11:06 PM
It seems like a majority of us on this message board has this problem or has gone through it sometime in their life. I'm 19 as well and around 5 on the verge of 6 NBPEL and still feel inadequate for my height which is 5' 7''. I guess it is the stereotype about asians that really gets to me for I am one. I have been embarassed to approach them hot looking girls too for sometime in the relationship her or me would like to have intercourse and I'd feel too small for them to feel anything cuz I'm pretty sure they have had bigger guys some time before. I mean... I had a girlfriend before and we use to fuck like rabbits and she said that size doesn't matter to her and said I had what it took to make her climax but I don't know if she's honest or not because she said I'm the one to take her virginity away from her. Also... I'll be joining the military soon and I'm guessing they have open showers there and feel like I'll be the laughing stock in the showers cuz I'm pretty sure there are going to be guys that are probably much huger flaccid than I would be erect... this is one of my biggest fears of going into the military but I feel like it's just something I'll have to face at some point in my life... oh wells.

Jamon Iberico
05-15-2006, 05:44 AM
I have a friend that asked me one time if I knew if Abe Lincoln, or Winston Churchill, were really big. I said ofcourse it didn't.

At the risk of going off the point on this excellent thread, just wanted to chip in and clear that one up. As I understand it Abe Lincoln had a genetic 'disorder' (I forget the name) which is characterised by great height, physical strength and intellect, the price for which is sterility and abnormally small genitals. By contrast it is well documented that Churchill made his fellow politicians extremely wary of standing next to him at the House of Commons public lavatories. He used to make a show of standing well back from the urinal in order to give himself enough room for manouver!

So, two great men, no common denominator in the pants.

Big Al
05-15-2006, 05:02 PM
At the risk of going off the point on this excellent thread, just wanted to chip in and clear that one up. As I understand it Abe Lincoln had a genetic 'disorder' (I forget the name) which is characterised by great height, physical strength and intellect, the price for which is sterility and abnormally small genitals.

Here's some links with some info: http://www.ygyh.org/marfan/whatisit.htm , http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060206231955.htm

Jamon Iberico
05-16-2006, 10:03 AM
Here's some links with some info: http://www.ygyh.org/marfan/whatisit.htm , http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060206231955.htm

Ah, thanks Big Al! Well they don't mention the diminished genitalia at all. Can't guarantee that I am right about that one then, although I heard it during a psychology lecture so I would imagine it has some basis. The poor muscle control doesn't sound like Lincoln either who was remarkably strong despite his lanky frame.

Big Al
05-16-2006, 10:56 AM
Here's another link on Lincoln which discusses his physical maladies: http://wesclark.com/jw/ataxia.html

LIGHTWEIGHTBABY
05-18-2006, 10:20 PM
i came across this looking for somthing else, but i will put my 2 cents in anyway.

I just dont get some of you guys. i am 5'8 myself, and what could you expect from me. my dick fits my frame. what else could you want. i am 5 3-4 in length and near 5 in girth. I am fine with that. its slightly over average according to many data

those stats of mine are no bullshit i promise you

1. I am certainly not ashamed to be slightly over average, at almost the same height you are, so who cares, why do you

2. EVERYBODY probably bullshits on here. probably giving themself and extra half to a full inch, who knows, you cant trust everything you read or hear regarding this type of stuff, so that right there should lower your standards

and i have it more ruff than the typical guy the same size as me. i am what you would call a bodybuilder guy. i have packed on a shit ton of muscle on my frame, which makes me look smaller than i am if you know what i mean. and that will only get worse

seing to how am only 20 years old, i have about 80-90 more pounds to gain by the time i am 45 years old, think about the illusion that will give

wohoo19m
05-19-2006, 03:49 AM
i came across this looking for somthing else, but i will put my 2 cents in anyway.

I just dont get some of you guys. i am 5'8 myself, and what could you expect from me. my dick fits my frame. what else could you want. i am 5 3-4 in length and near 5 in girth. I am fine with that. its slightly over average according to many data

those stats of mine are no bullshit i promise you

1. I am certainly not ashamed to be slightly over average, at almost the same height you are, so who cares, why do you

2. EVERYBODY probably bullshits on here. probably giving themself and extra half to a full inch, who knows, you cant trust everything you read or hear regarding this type of stuff, so that right there should lower your standards

and i have it more ruff than the typical guy the same size as me. i am what you would call a bodybuilder guy. i have packed on a shit ton of muscle on my frame, which makes me look smaller than i am if you know what i mean. and that will only get worse

seing to how am only 20 years old, i have about 80-90 more pounds to gain by the time i am 45 years old, think about the illusion that will give

Most people on here are honest. Seriously, what would they gain by telling other people WHO WILL NEVER MEET THEM, that they're half an inch bigger than they really are? I don't really care anyway, the only dick I'm concerned with is my own.

Have you even started doing PE to help your "illusion" problem?

Wich study did you see that told you 5 3/4" was above average? I want to see because at 6.75" NBP I must be a monster on that chart :sm25

LIGHTWEIGHTBABY
05-19-2006, 07:15 AM
well from what i have seen, any data measured by the staff them selves came up with an average of 5.1 in one study, and 5.7 in the other study. and yet another study i read through said 5.5

NOw alot of other studies say that its more like 6.2-6.4 as the avarage, the only problem with that is the guys "measured themselves""

NO i have not done any PE, never heard of it till stumbling on to here

LIGHTWEIGHTBABY
05-19-2006, 07:29 AM
Most people on here are honest. Seriously, what would they gain by telling other people WHO WILL NEVER MEET THEM, that they're half an inch bigger than they really are? I don't really care anyway, the only dick I'm concerned with is my own.

Have you even started doing PE to help your "illusion" problem?

Wich study did you see that told you 5 3/4" was above average? I want to see because at 6.75" NBP I must be a monster on that chart :sm25

Take a ruler, a big fat ruler, and look at the 6 inch mark. while thats not huge, its certainly not small, at least girls dont think so. Im sorry, i just dont see the logic, i dont see why 6 inches would make you feel like shunning yourself. that is unless you are really 5 inches to 5 and a quarter in real life and expresssing how down about yourself you are about your internet size sixxer.

with my case, being slightly over 3/4 5, you can call it 13/16 or 7/8 if your picky, i feel pretty normal

wohoo19m
05-19-2006, 07:57 AM
Most men have heard too many women brag about an 8 inch dick. They never hear any women brag about a 6 incher.

6 inches is most definitly enough to satisfy a woman though, most men just don't think it.

You can't just force a man to like the size of his penis. Society has put an image in use that bigger dicks attracts power. You don't seem to have that problem, all the better for ya.

BTW what's your fixation on insisting that people on here only "claim" to have a 6 incher?

LIGHTWEIGHTBABY
05-19-2006, 09:50 AM
To be perfectly honost, i dont think the average woman knows what 8 inches looks like, they probably dont have a very good eye for this type of stuff. that goes with any measurement, 9 times out of 10, a guy would be better at estimating a length of any object because they are more inclined for things like carpentry and stuff if that helps paint the picture of what im trying to say.

IF a woman saw a 6.5 by length but say with a extremely extremely large circumfrance, or maybe even a 6 inches with a shit wide circumfrance, i bet they might think thats 8 inches, thats one point.

I dont have a fixation for anything, there are two things that guys CANT tell the truth about
1. bench press (weightlifting)
2. Penis size


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size#Erect_length

LIGHTWEIGHTBABY
05-19-2006, 12:40 PM
let me say one more thing, and i will end it there because i dont want to make it sound like i have a fixation. according to my sources, WITH STAFF MEASUREMENTS, the average is somewhere between 5-6. at spring break, the STAFF MEASUREMENTS came out to 5 7/8, i dont know any better place to conduct data like this than then on spring break.

an overwhelming amount of people on this website claims to have well well well over this average before the jelqing stuff, one must ask the question, its likely that if measured by staff, 90 percent of the people on a penis enlargement website are not going to be bigger than average before treatment,.

so to the individual who claims that "why would anyone lie on the internet", there you have it

many people here are also insecure, giving them the internet power to project themselves as normal or superior for a change

also, if i have a 7 or 7 1/2 incher with i am not going to be complaining about my size, like many here do



so in my conclusion
1. people are full of shit, because like i said guys cant tell the truth about their size. so a guy with a 5-5.5 inch dick is going to be complaining about his internet measurement 6 inch dick
2. the perception of average is way way way off due to PORNO and the genetic freaks of the class

LIGHTWEIGHTBABY
05-19-2006, 12:51 PM
Now, seeing to how in many instances with these studies, the mode seems to be the average, thats makes 50 percent of guys average. i am pretty sure that , this group of 50 percent of guys out there are getting married and having relationships, this is my reasoning

Big Al
05-19-2006, 02:57 PM
From the information my clients have given me, the average length seems to be just under 6 inches. This is with measuring and for tracking purposes. In this situation, clients wouldn't have much of a readson to lie, since tracking their progress is at stake.

LIGHTWEIGHTBABY
05-19-2006, 07:29 PM
From the information my clients have given me, the average length seems to be just under 6 inches. This is with measuring and for tracking purposes. In this situation, clients wouldn't have much of a readson to lie, since tracking their progress is at stake.

and that seems pretty consistant with the respcted studies.

If you look at some signitures, you will see an overwhelming starting point of 6.5-7.5 inches. obviously, the "average" isnt going to be about the "avergage" . For the balls of God's sakes, especially on a penis enlargement site.

Big Al
05-20-2006, 11:09 AM
I think guys with larger measurements have a tendency to brag a little more. They may just be more willing to post their measurements. There are almost 36,000 members on this forum, and a majority of the ones that participate don't post measurements.

Pencil-Veinier
07-19-2006, 12:43 AM
Madman, I'm from Africa and you should see what they got going here. I had the same locker room hangups as you. I mean I used to see guys with dicks flaccid longer and fatter than mine erect.

They say black dudes don't get any bigger when erect... just thought i'd throw that out there. Two nights ago i was at the gym and saw this big black dude and noticed his flaccid dick was smaller than my flaccid dick. a 6'5 dark skinned black man with a smaller dick than a 5'7 white/hispanic guy with the word pencil in his screen name. and if his dick doesn't get any bigger when hard, a woman must feel like it's her tampon sliding in and out.

you know... no matter how small your dick is, be glad you're not a 6'5 black man with a small dick. Every chick he meets is expecting a massive one. At least if you're 5'7 and white or latino or asian, a chick is just happy to see you actually have one.

Pencil-Veinier
07-19-2006, 01:06 AM
My girlfriend for three years is friends with her exboyfriend, who she dumped to be with me, and she told me that he had avery big dick and this KILLS ME!!! I have even told her about my hangup... I just can't seem to shake this HUGE insecurity...What do I do??? What did you do?

do PE. You'll notice some significant change pretty quick and that can boost the ego some... major changes will take longer... like in the range of 1 year or more. read these boards often for tips and be careful to understand the limitations of your dick so you don't injure it.

as for your girlfriend.... if she wanted a huge dick, would she be with you? I don't know you or her, but i'm guessing she loves you and your dick. a big dick doesn't equal good sex and a small to average dick can be perfect for many women. read the kama sutra to learn what really turns a woman on. the brain is 100 times more powerful in arousing your woman than the penis. it could be a conversation you have that leaves her thinking of you for days... or a well-timed glance with a sultry look. Above all, confidence. and don't cut short the foreplay. You are young and athletic. That's a good start for having the stamina and strength to give her what she needs. Just imagine that you're exactly what she's always wanted. If she really loves you then it's true. Women can seem very cruel sometimes, like that Doors lyric "Women seem wicked when you're unwanted". But the wonderful thing about them is that when one loves you, she forgives all of your shortcomings, and in her eyes you are the best. Short? Ugly? Fat? Unhung? "But I love him!" Poor? Lazy? Boring? Stupid? "But I love him!" Drunkard? Liar? Cheater? Abusive? "OH my GOD I'LL LOVE HIM FOREVER!!!"

Pencil-Veinier
07-19-2006, 01:44 AM
I used to feel very uncomfortable with my size. When I was a teenager I didn't really know what was average and what was big. My two best friends both claimed to have 8+ and got laid in high school when I didn't. With my 5.5 - 6, I thought I was small, and if you take into account my girth at 4, I was and still am smaller than average. but i thought since i was such a small guy, and other guys were all bigger than me, they must all have bigger dicks than me, and i feared i couldn't please a woman with my small dick.

But at some point in the last couple years, I stopped worrying about it so much. I mean i still want a big one, but it doesn't cloud my mind constantly like it once did. Partially because i see guys like want8 and daz on these boards who started from small and grew tremendously, and I know that in a couple years i'll be swinging a damn big one around. Partially because I just grew up. But a big impact on it has to do with the fact that it's been replaced by the insecurity i have about my height and size. i'm 5'7 and have a very narrow build. Face it: Women are much more particular about a man's height than about his dick size. Just look at online dating sites and notice how many women put "tall" as a desirable trait. Almost none will put "hung" unless it's a casual sex site. i know that so many women size me up and throw me back in one glance, and I fear that even the ones who are nice to me and seem interested are really just pretending or holding me to much higher standards in other ways than they would for a taller man.

Particularly the height thing. Even 5-foot women prefer tall men. When my ex wife and i were going through separation, she was trying to hurt my feelings and said "i always wanted a bigger dick anyways", and it didn't hurt my feelings one bit. i knew she was taken care of in the sex department, and she was just trying to get me back because i had fucked up by saying i like petite women and she's a big girl.

but when my next girlfriend would talk about height, i would fucking seeth... and not say anything. She would mention like twice a week how much her mom was attracted to her dad because her dad is so tall. Her mom was picking out men for her back in China where she's from for her to go back and meet (she never told her parents she was dating an American), and her mom obviously has a thing for tall men, but she wouldn't say explicitly that she had a preference. not to little old me. "my mom likes Shaq. She thinks he's cute". Cute. Yeah right. Then one day we were walking with some friends and she asks me 'how tall is 5'9?' "like this" i said holding my hand a couple inches above my head. "5'9, hmmmm" she said with that 'i guess so' kind of tone "Don, how tall are you" she asks our friend. "5'11". "5'11, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" with a 'thats more like it' tone. She's 5'2, thin and very cute, and i'm 5'7 and thin. I'm like, if a girl this small thinks i'm too short, WTF?? I think she had no idea how bad this hurt me. She could be kind of dense and would often be vague thinking others wouldn't understand what she was thinking and this is a perfect example.

So she dumped me, saying she can't be with an American and she needs to marry soon, which I'm not ready for and I made clear to her, but I said eventually I want to. I was, and still am madly in love with her. And I never asked and she never said whether height was a factor, but I'm fucking dying because i i can't have her. i think she just used me to see whether it's true what they say about American men back in China. and according to her my dick is huge compared to her ex, so i guess i reinforced the stereotype for her. now she can go find a wimpy small dicked chinese guy to marry, but he'll be tall and that's what's important. Bitch.

JC1975
07-20-2006, 03:17 PM
I can relate to a lot of all this... though I have never been dumped for my size so far as I know (except for one I THINK, who told me her ex was 10").. I have an 'internet girlfriend' now who I will be meeting within the next two months or so once our business schedules clear up. She is similar in size to yours Pencil-Veinier.. only smaller.. 5' tall.. asian.. 92lbs pettit and a virgin in her mid twenties. We are extremely serious about each other.. have strong communication, same life goals.. and everthing looks great.. we compliment each other better than anyone I have every known or have seen of other couples. We won't be having sex until we are married... and her being an asian lady does not like to touch on the subject of sex very often, though when she does she is quite open on the subject. She asked me blatently one night how big my dick is after I gave her some rather graphic details of my previous relationships.. I answered 6.5 and a little wider than average (thats right.. I lied knowing the last time I measured I was just a 6).. to which she asked what is that? I offered to show her, but of course she didn't like that.. she is not trailer trash :) She only replied after that, that she is small. So I guess that ended the conversation.

I had a girl once just like you described Pencil-Veinier... I actually lost my virginity to her.. she was 5'2" Chinese virgin who was beautiful... we banged like rabbits for weeks and then she went home.. she wanted us to get married but there were many things about her that were missing that I needed. Though it was great while we had each other.. Feeling that tight pussy wrapped around my cock was unlike anything I ever felt the rest of my life.

Now you would think that this point I should think "Man I'm set, I got myself a virgin flower that is nice and small.. perhaps even smaller than the one you had that was close to her size.. my cock will be like Cock Kong to her!" .... but the more I fantasize about us having sex, the more fun I see us having with me having a 7-8" she could ride off of from many positions. I read about Uterus Orgasims and such.. and I can't recall ever 'bottoming out' with a woman except with that girl I lost my virginity too.

I have grown up with porn like most of you have.. always been careful to hide my stuff in the washrooms.. all that crap.. size doesn't matter only when you are not less than average or average.. esp. when the perception of 'average' is bigger than average! :) .. I think I started to become more comfortable with my size when I started chatting online and having some fun with my webcam jerking off for girls to watch... the comments I got were nothing short of a HUGE ego boost... some of them were really getting off on seeing me fire the canon... then again.. they say the camera adds 10lbs :) ... and I knew the particular angle might have made it look bigger from preception... nonetheless.. I felt better then... but not 'cured' ... the cure to me is to have a 7X6... and flaccid I should hang over my balls instead of on top of them.. so I guess 5X5 or something there (still getting my stuff setup to start).

I will have no worries at all taking my woman with a dick that size... though I might lose the opportunity to do anal.. but packing a 7" on a 92lbs 5" girl should be more than enough to 'fill her' :) If I am wrong please tell me now so I can adjust my goals :)

Ok.. there is my rambling.. happy I found you guys.. just wish I got serious about this a few years ago!

JC

avg-dick
07-24-2006, 07:16 AM
We all have hang ups, and this is just one of the many we face in life. I always wanted big muscles, so in my teens I worked out as much as I could. I met a nice girl, we married, had a family. My muscles went away, my penis stayed average, and we are very happy. All along it wasn't my physical being that attracted her, it was my character and persona.

Through our years together we learned to master the "art" of love and sex, knowing exactly how to make each other happy. Though my penis is average, my training in it's usage is above average. There are some great DVD's out there just for this purpose.

Women "think" a bigger penis equates to better sex....KNOWLEDGE equates to better sex. Then why am I enrolled in this program ? I've always wanted that little bit extra, though my wife could care less. In the past 2 months of PE I've gained some confidence that when I drop my pants, there's just a little extra dangling there. That's enough to satisfy that longing from over the years of "thinking' I never had enough.

We all have enough....go out and LEARN HOW TO USE IT ! You'll be amazed at the women who'll want more and more, unconcerned about the size, as long as it does it's job. Just like weightlifting, size is not everything. I know, I've been there.

CrunchyB
07-25-2006, 01:47 AM
and that seems pretty consistant with the respcted studies.

If you look at some signitures, you will see an overwhelming starting point of 6.5-7.5 inches. obviously, the "average" isnt going to be about the "avergage" . For the balls of God's sakes, especially on a penis enlargement site.


Your argument is incredibly biased, since you leave out the fact that several guys on here have in there signature a starting length anywhere from 4-5.25" EL. I think you are dillusional, you figure hey if you are a little above the "average" than most guys must be full of shit when they start further above the average, please check your ego when you login. Height doesn't mean anything in the way of penis length, it's mostly genetics.


They say black dudes don't get any bigger when erect... just thought i'd throw that out there. Two nights ago i was at the gym and saw this big black dude and noticed his flaccid dick was smaller than my flaccid dick. a 6'5 dark skinned black man with a smaller dick than a 5'7 white/hispanic guy with the word pencil in his screen name. and if his dick doesn't get any bigger when hard, a woman must feel like it's her tampon sliding in and out.

I like you, but that's some of the dumbest shit I've heard on these forums. Whoever "they" are need to learn some of these things we call "facts". First your comments are as true as "asian women have horizontal vaginas". Black people aren't a different species, a blackman's penis work's the same as any other man's. Just like other guys a black guy may have a shower or a grower. Like I said height has nothing to do with it nor does race, it's genetics as well as nutrition during growth. I wish people would stop using skin pigment for a basis of physical developement. It's kind of racist.

Pencil-Veinier
07-27-2006, 12:09 AM
I like you, but that's some of the dumbest shit I've heard on these forums. Whoever "they" are need to learn some of these things we call "facts". First your comments are as true as "asian women have horizontal vaginas". Black people aren't a different species, a blackman's penis work's the same as any other man's. Just like other guys a black guy may have a shower or a grower. Like I said height has nothing to do with it nor does race, it's genetics as well as nutrition during growth. I wish people would stop using skin pigment for a basis of physical developement. It's kind of racist.

look, everyone knows asian women don't have horizontal vaginas. they have slanted vaginas. just like their eyes.

there, was that dumb enough?

hotwrap
07-27-2006, 12:46 AM
I'm not sure if the original posters problem could be a psychological one. Perhaps mental visualisation exercises may be the answer.