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Project_Moss

03-03-2006, 07:25 PM

As long as you dont ejaculate during pe you should keep your gains. Their are times I have sex right after pe and it just makes my penis more pumped up for it and I have still seen gains either way so it shouldnt matter.

Momo

03-04-2006, 10:52 AM

I try not to orgasm (not counting prostate/seminal vesicle ejaculations) for at least 2 days prior to a workout, and at least 24 hrs afterwards. Even that, is really the minimum - ideally speaking. If I was to blow my lad 3 hrs prior, and then again 3 hrs afterwards, A)that would be a weak workout, and B) the recovery would be all screwed up.

You want to be strong going into the workout, and stay strong during the recovery time. Ideally.

But, if you've got people to do, and loads to blow, hey - guess you've gotta lower that a bit.

Project_Moss

03-05-2006, 02:38 PM

Actually ejaculating has nothing to do with your workout or recovery so saying blowing a load 3 hours before or after would not change recovery time or workout at all. 2 days without ejaculating before 1 workout is insane. PE is the stretching of ligaments and ejaculation does not have that big of an effect on it. The 3 hour rule for ejaculating before a workout is fine but even so, you can ejaculate then workout right away and it wouldnt really hurt your results.

BrotherDave

03-06-2006, 01:44 AM

I kinda agree with Project Moss, there is no real evidence that suggests ejaculating will discourage gains and i do ejaculate often right after my clamping session and I'm making steady girth gains. I think the whole idea is just people being paranoid.

thats my opinion but your welcome to yours

lylejupiter

04-28-2006, 07:23 PM

after doing my pe, i noticed when doing my pc weighting, i ejaculate. this only happens now and then. my question is that, if i ejaculate after my workout, is the whole workout a waste?

lyle

Moved to appropriate forum ;)

HaGa11aZ

04-29-2006, 01:48 AM

i do not see how that would nullify any workouts. if anything, i would suspect that it might help, given that there is all the more stimulation to that region of the body, IMO.

jorunj

05-01-2006, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by jorunj
i was noticing when doing hard pc flexes with an erection the head really throbs and for the past couple days ive been doing alot of those pc flexes. i was just masterbating to porn and tried it sitting on a tennis ball, and i noticed i could last soo much longer and when i had an orgasm i didnt ejaculate becaus eo f this. Is it a good i dea to be doing alot of this for my pc muscle or just once in a while i was a wierd but good felling and am wondering if this i s a good idea for peing. im only a month and a week in, and notice some flacid gain girth but no erection length changes ..any suggestiions has anyone tried this??

Big Al

05-02-2006, 08:24 PM

Interesting variation on the PC flex. Looking forward to hearing other readers' input.

emma_permenda

05-05-2006, 08:48 AM

When doing your pc flexes, you should be semi erect and if you feel that you may be leading up to an ejaculation, stop, let the moment pass and continue once it has.

It isn't detrimental, but the exercise will work more efficiently if you do not ejaculate, as you are flexing the muscle effectively.

Emma

Want8

05-08-2006, 08:44 PM

Emma is right,

If you have control over blowing your load, by all means stop the load. But as we guys know its not always easy to stop throwing a load !

Its better not to throw the load because you are spittin out many good vitamins and minerals that are ustilized in growth of the penis. If you really need to jack off, then try to do it an hour before PE and/or an hour after PE.

ME, personally have sex within an hour after my PE workouts. I feel that my cock gets an additional workout - especially anal sex with my wife (http://www.mens-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10810&highlight=kegels

Premature Ejaculation & Kegels

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This advice may sound a little queer, but I got the idea from my wife. She had a bladder problem, where she used to piss all over me during sex and when she had an orgasm.

She now has great control over her pussy muscles - to squeeze my cock like a vice. Her gynecologist told her to get a dildo or viberator and put a lot of lube/vaseline on it, then insert it into either her asshole or her pussy and stand up and try to keep the dildo/viberator in her asshole and prevent it from slipping out by kegeling. She did both, in her pussy and her asshole and guess what - she can now crush walnuts with her pussy and/or asshole muscles.! I have a real problem holding my load when I give it to my wife in the ass even in her pussy - she squeezes like a vice and I totally explode. So it is a race for the best kegeling - I have to work on my kegeling to hold my load longer.

So I told my doctor of this and he told me to try the same - in my asshole with just a little lube. So I borrowed her viberator and lubed it up and put it in my asshole, then stood up. The viberator tries to slip out, but if you kegel very hard and work on it, you can hold it in your asshole. You have to work on this, but it works out the "BC/PC" muscles and before you know it, you will be cracking walnuts with your ass - . . . .LOL.

If you are married, ask your wife or girlfriend, what the gynecologist recommends for tightening their snatch's or for women that cant hold their piss - when having an orgasm (they piss all over you if this muscle isn’t strong - so it can help this problem too - for women I mean).

You don’t have to get a huge dildo, just a small one; that goes for the viberator too - just a small one. I put it in my asshole then jack off (and jelqing) while standing up trying to hold either the dildo or viberator in my asshole. Start without much lube first then gradually put more lube on the dildo or viberator. Less lube is for newbies, so as there will be less slippage outta your asshole - then when you gain more control over your BC muscle, you can add more lube and really get a workout. Try the viberator without it turned on, because you will cum in seconds, as it really stimulates the inside of your asshole/prostate, so my advice is not to turn it on being a newbie to this type of training. Sometimes when I go too far edging and the dildo or viberator is in my ass, I go over the top and explode like a gusher WOW talk about an orgasm - try it ! But that puts a quick end to the PE'ing workout and kegeling by throwing your load. If you don’t have a dildo or viberator and dont want to spend the money because you dont know if it will work or just dont want to try it, . . . . then borrow one. Most chicks have em'

Sounds gay, queer, but give it a try - you may like it too ? Just some friendly advice.

Its also excellent for anal sex. The reason I say this is because my wife loves anal sex she can actually squeeze my cock with her ass like me and you jelq ! She loves putting me in pain; I try my hardest (kegeling) to not cum and she squeezes the shit outta my cock to make me cum - and she usually wins, but whatta orgasm for both of us !!

Its tough getting the word out there, when it is very difficult to believe - like the dildo and viberator training. Some guys just are toooo macho to admit that they won’t try something new and/or something that the queers/gays love. But it helped me and my wife and I swear by the ass (kegel) training techniques I have spoken about.

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CaCadoodleDoo

05-14-2006, 10:44 PM

1 word... wow
i think ill stick to the pc flexes and the stop piss technique :sm15

chicagoboy

05-16-2006, 09:49 AM

1 word... wow
i think ill stick to the pc flexes and the stop piss technique :sm15
:sm25 Thanks for sharing your experiences, even if other people don't like them!

gstandup

05-28-2006, 03:55 PM

I just wanted to let everyone know that my Ejaculation control is much better than first starting.

im now able to get to the peek of almost ejaculating and just hit that pc muscle and it slow right back down.. feels good to be incontrol. then do it again and back over.. now i just ejaculate when im tired of holding it back and just let it out..

Now less focus on that and more towards length / girth.. :sm35

Paul_Permenda

05-28-2006, 03:59 PM

Excellent news gstandup is that from doing the PC excercises?

Stick with it and length and girth gains are sure to follow :)

Jareth

05-28-2006, 07:36 PM

joeerv

06-26-2006, 01:37 PM

Hi. I just wanted to say congratulations on your progress in controling your ejaculations. Just keep on exercising your pc muscle man.:) When I first started the program my ejaculations were explosive but I not that intense. Now, my ejaculations are very intense and so explosive that my cum goes all over the place. I've literally masturbated in the bathroom and exploded on my wall across the room!!!:sm39 I've only been on the program for two complete weeks and now going on week three.

peace2006

06-29-2006, 12:18 AM

I started doing PE for about a month or more....I do power stretch, sit down stretch, and strengthing my PC Muscle. I have noticed that when i mustrbate after excercises i want to cum very quickly, quicker than before. less than 60 sec.!!! I mustrbate to see if i will cum quickly or not but i dont let it cum i just stop before cumming. Actually, i'm worry because i ejaculate much quicker than i used to since i started the excercises..! I dont know why does this happen? Shall I stop strengthing my PC Muscle!? However, since i started PE my penis erects stronger and its heavier. I can see that the girth is increased too and thats all when my penis erects only. When its flaccid, its size same as before.

Please Help...I need your advise

BetterWhiteMeat

06-29-2006, 04:59 PM

Remember your unit is still not trained it may think your arousing it thru PE
so jerking off gives it the impression (well your mind) PE is for arousing not exercise.
it takes time to teach your mind you are not doing things to ejaculate so stop pleasing your self when done PEing so your mind can take the time to realize your doing this as Excersize not pleasure.
Hope this helps
BWM

Jareth

07-01-2006, 11:43 AM

Loggerhead

07-08-2006, 10:11 PM

Okay who's in for the experiment?

Big Vine and I both have found that we are experiencing a larger continues flaccid size when we refrain from ejaculation and while also teasing ourselves to near the spouting off point or point of no return (PNR).

This could be very significant for the serious PEer to recognize quicker larger gains.

I noticed today that I was hanging long and plumpy all day. It has been 7 days for me without spewing the gew.

halofk1

07-09-2006, 12:54 AM

sacred

07-09-2006, 04:56 AM

Yep me too. Ive noticed the same changes you have too tho log, and the longer I refrain the better my gains 'seem' to be.
I was a little disheartened about a week ago when I'd had a string of sessions with my girlfriend and seemed to almost lose my gains, but I could put this down to libido I guess.

Jason1234

07-09-2006, 07:26 AM

I'll be willing, what exactly will I need to record? And will it matter when I start, as I can start next Wednesday, I have something planned on Tuesday :P

Loggerhead

07-09-2006, 09:30 AM

It is my desire and intent to see if we can find a common denominator amongst those of us who refrain from ejaculation. I want to know if you also find that your flaccid size is longer and fatter than usual. I don't know how long it takes though. It will be interesting to get your feedback after analyzing how your dick responds to no ejaculating. Hopefully this will provide a degree of understanding as to what more we can do to facilitate the PE process.

Foortman

07-10-2006, 09:22 PM

I too will try this but if I walk down the street and some hottie walks by and something explodes in my pants then you're to blame loggerhead :P

Loggerhead

07-10-2006, 11:09 PM

Hahahaha :sm24

Yeh, I know what you mean. I'm at about 10 days without. + my girl friend just emailed me a complete pictorial of sexy pics of her gorgeous 5' 11" perfect bod. I'm staying dedicated to this experiment though. I continue to notice a larger flaccid and more erections. It's just pure and simple, without ejaculating, I'm carrying around a plumpier longer cock constantly. The theory is that it will heal in an enlarged state as I continue to do my PE routine.

mrwall

07-11-2006, 02:49 PM

I'm very interested in doing this experiment.

How many times a day should I tease myself, without exploding?:rolleyes:

And i presume I continue with my weekly PE routine.

I'm up for the experiment.

Ready, Willing and Able.

Don't know how my other half will take it though.

A week without sex.:sm36

Vine

07-11-2006, 03:22 PM

I was just thinking guys...
Technically the participants of this 'experiment' could have sex---just so long as they do not ejaculate! :eek:

Best of luck to you gentlemen. :rolleyes:
Big Vine

Earendil

07-11-2006, 03:23 PM

I just know that when I take a week off, my dick grows even without refraining from squirting.

I usually PE for 10- 14 days (plus the regular pauses of course) and then take 7 days off. That way, my penis can achieve the best gains possible from the exercises.

Loggerhead

07-14-2006, 03:18 PM

I still have not fallen off the wagon. This experiment is still on for me. Mr. Happy is constantly reminding me of the desire to squirt. Though he just continues to hang longer and stays plumpy.

Any body else have anything to report?

halofk1

07-14-2006, 03:20 PM

im still the same i havent seen anything different about my penis

Loggerhead

07-14-2006, 09:38 PM

im still the same i havent seen anything different about my penis

Here is something for you to try. I find that it helps to stimulate my dick. What ever side you wear your dick in your pants, switch it to the opposite side. When I do it, it seems to constantly stimulate me. It causes a constant awareness of my dick and so I often juice it up with kegals to 1) keep it pumped in size and 2) kegals are good to do anytime to strengthen your PC muscle.

halofk1

07-14-2006, 09:57 PM

ok ill go ahead and try that

oskmedia

07-16-2006, 11:36 PM

makes sense .........I will go a month :P

lol @ Loggerhead .....what side of pants i thought that was always a joke flaccid i am like 2 inch no joke maybe 2.5 then other times i will be bigger, BUT when erect i am 6.5 inches even.

I also think your sex drive has alot to do with the length and girth

Also my girlfriend thinks its stupid the whole penis enlargement stuff

DragonPisces

07-23-2006, 05:11 AM

Hi guys,

From what I understand with a strong PC muscle you can choose not to ejaculate. I have two questions.

1. Do you tighten the muscle to stop anything from coming out, or relax the muscle so that it doesn't do anything?

2. Does the orgasm still come or is that prevented as well?

Thanks in advance.

thestorm

07-23-2006, 05:53 PM

I have a question about the PC muscle also. I am exercising it for 1,5 months, doing app 200 a day, but still while having sex if I feel like I'm about to cum, I have to stop for a few seconds while pressing the muscle in order not to come. If I go on with only tending the muscle and not making a pause then I ejaculate.Does a well trained PC muscle mean that u may stop the ejaculation while having sex without making a pause, or however u have to stop and tend it for a few seconds in order to loose the urge to cum?

Vine

07-23-2006, 07:27 PM

I suppose it may depend on the individual, but for myself, I squeeze the PC muscle when I feel I am about to cum---I hold it for as long as I have to in order to prevent ejaculation. And, I also stop all stimulation whilst doing so---if the stimulation continues and I am pretty much at the point of no return, then I cum. Sometimes I might be able to ward off the ejaculation by tensing the PC muscle alone---even if the stimulation does continue---however this occurrence is rare, and is only successful in cases where my level of arousal isn't quite up to the point of no return yet.

Big Vine

sgocean12

07-24-2006, 07:03 AM

Hi, do u need to take out the penis and squeeze the muscle or leave it inside her vagina and squeeze the muscle? Is there a website that explicitly show how to squeeze the PC muscle? I afraid that I may squeeze wrongly.

Vine

07-24-2006, 08:07 AM

You can leave it inside the woman, but you must stop thrusting until the cumming feeling subsides if you want to be able to successfully prevent ejaculation.

To test out your PC muscle, just stop yourself (without using your hands) in mid-urination. You'll feel a bit of a clenching of between your anus and scrotum, which is where the PC muscle is located. At first it may feel like you are clenching your anus when you do PC flexes (at least for me it did)---So to avoid that, just concentrate on feeling the flexing/contraction in your penis when you're doing it...In other words, try to shift your focus forward, and away from your anus, even though your anus may in fact be partially clenching as you perform this exercise.

Hope this helps.
Big Vine

DragonPisces

07-24-2006, 07:06 PM

Hi,

I know this is the 'penis enhancement' forum but my topic is related. Many people use PC exercises to help with enhancement and control. Back in the 90s when I first read about PC exercises, the article also stated that men could prevent ejaculation (using the PC) but still have the orgasm.

I was curious if those of you who have been working on the PC for awhile get this result or do you stop the ejaculation AND the orgasm when you clench the PC? Thanks.

Bravo

07-25-2006, 07:17 AM

Yes, I've managed to have an orgasm without ejaculation by contracting my PC muscle. The
result is that my penis still subsides and I'm not very happy about that.

Vine

07-25-2006, 07:30 AM

Yup...the 'orgasmic sensation' (without ejaculation) happens, but like you said, the erection typically subsides.

In my experience, you can still have the orgasmic sensations without having to lose your erection---you just have to be more careful about not coming quite as close to the point of no return before you flex your PC muscle.

In other words, there is a trade-off between the two:

1) lesser 'orgasmic sensation' without ejaculation (caused by clenching PC muscle sooner, rather than later)---which allows one to maintain erection afterwards

2) greater 'orgasmic sensation' without ejaculation (caused by clenching PC muscle later, rather than sooner)---which typically results in loss of erection

My whole theory is based on "to what degree are you tricking your body and mind?"

The closer you get to ejaculating before trying to prevent it, the more your mind will think that you've orgasmed (which, in effect, you have based on the orgasmic sensation), and therefore have a tendency to lose the erection (because it got what IT wanted...you may still want to keep going so you can bust your load, but your mind THINKS you have done that already, so your cock goes limp!).

This tends to happen the more one 'edges' (or comes close to the point of no return and then backs off) in a given session---After each successive 'edging,' the mind gets closer and closer to thinking you've busted your load, even if you haven't.

Well, that's the bulk of my long and drawn-out theory. How accurate is it? For me---100%...not too sure if it holds true for everyone else though. Lol. :rolleyes:

Big Vine

hotwrap

07-25-2006, 02:42 PM

You might want to look into tantra.

DragonPisces

07-27-2006, 06:14 AM

Bravo have you tried clenching it without stopping? Like don't stop and clench but continue to have sex and clench it mid stride?

Bravo

07-30-2006, 03:00 AM

If I clench it before orgasm and continue to have sex I can't stop ejaculation. The pressure is too strong for me. I guess I need to rehearse more.\
If you were talking about continuing to have sex after orgasm without ejaculation I'll give it a try.

blahblah11

08-01-2006, 06:04 PM

hey guys i was watching some porno today and i started to massage my penis and a little bit of semen came to the tip of the penis is that ok?:sm39 it wasnt even like an ejaculation i felt it comeing up the penis but i stopped it and only a little was at the tip. any advice would help thanks.

Vine

08-01-2006, 06:10 PM

It is called "pre-cum," which is completely normal.

Big Vine

blahblah11

08-01-2006, 06:55 PM

so pre cumming won't effect gains right?

blkteg

08-01-2006, 07:09 PM

so pre cumming won't effect gains right?

lol .....no it won;t...

sosu

08-18-2006, 02:28 AM

When you clench your muscle, is it supposed to stop-stop the ejaculation [unclenching within 10 seconds should result in no ejaculate] (answer 1) - or is it supposed to hold it back so if you release it whenever it will release even after ten minutes (answer 2).

Or is it a mix of both, that you have to hold for a while, but it'll eventually subside (answer 3).

If it is one of these and not something different entirely feel free to reply with "answer #" :)

Vine

08-18-2006, 06:32 AM

Good question, sosu! Welcome to the forum.

Answer 1 is the most correct one.

In order to successfully prevent from cumming, you need to clench the PC muscle right before (almost at) the point of no return (PNR). There may be times where a quick, strong flexing of the muscle for say, 1-3 seconds or so, wards off ejaculation...

But typically, successfully doing so (especially if you are on the very brink of blowing your load and have almost gone 'too far') may require that you flex your muscle for perhaps up to about 5 to 10 seconds in order to ward off ejaculation until the feeling of cumming subsides.

That is not to say that there won't be any ejaculate at all. Some leakage is very likely to occur, however this is certainly not the same as a full-blown ejaculation!

As for Answer 2 and Answer 3...

Under no circumstances can I foresee any full-blown ejaculation spontaneously happening as a result of unclenching/releasing---i.e. no opening of the 'floodgates'---your PC muscle after 10 minutes (nor do I suspect that anyone can feasibly clench it for such a long period of time). Granted, some cum may leak out upon releasing your PC muscle after having held it for a while whenever you're close to the PNR, but again, that is hardly the same as a complete ejaculation.

Hope this makes sense.
Vine

nrthrnlights

08-23-2006, 10:19 PM

i smoke weed almost daily i was wondering if this affected growth at all and i was also wondering if i was ejaculating alot would this affect my gains

gstandup

08-23-2006, 11:19 PM

i smoke weed almost daily i was wondering if this affected growth at all and i was also wondering if i was ejaculating alot would this affect my gains

it can, since smoking restricts blood flow and you need a clear bloodflow to the penis :sm33

Loggerhead

08-25-2006, 12:55 PM

I'm doing this again. I'm finding that I continue to have a plumpy dick as long as my sex desire goes unsatisfied. My flacid is staying at about 6.5 as a result. I noticed in my past that if I ejaculate, my flacid size is much smaller.

Today I'm on a PE break. My therory is to keep it as big a possible while its healing. It takes a lot of disapline not to jerk it while feeling like I could just rape any woman that passes within my eyesight.

Finally starting to notice girth gains.

DragonPisces

08-28-2006, 02:01 AM

Some penis enlargement pills increase your libido, if you're horny all the time then you're semi erect all the time, people think "wow these pills are working my flaccid size has increased!"

The REAL question is are you guys seeing permanent results from this, or just results when you're horny and unsatisfied?

P.S.
Oskmedia tell your girlfriend that getting your chest cut open and water balloons inserted is 'stupid' exercising is natural.

RicePatty

09-30-2006, 10:18 PM

I was wondering if anyone gets the urge to pee after ejaculating? This happens to me everytime. I always manage to keep a semi-hardon after ejaculating but if I continue to stroke my penis it makes me want to go pee.

If my bladder is completely empty, the sensation is quite unique and definitely pleasurable, but I've never tried it with a girl for fear of making a mess. The peeing sensation usually passes after 5 mins.

Does anyone know why this is happening and if it's normal?
Thanks in advance

Dazzlingdaz3

10-01-2006, 01:09 AM

Hi mate,
Sounds pretty normal, the penis is very sensitive after ejaculation, especially the glans and continued stimulation can be painful for some and very pleasurable for others, as you have just described ;)

Cheers
Dazz

CrunchyB

10-01-2006, 11:33 AM

I like to pee after just to clear out the pipes, otherwise if you wait till later you sometimes get the split stream going, lol.

Vine

10-01-2006, 01:59 PM

I like to pee after just to clear out the pipes, otherwise if you wait till later you sometimes get the split stream going, lol.

Yep, good point Crunchy!
It is a good habit to get into, because it really does "clear out the pipes," like you said. :p

Vine